Sanctions on Russia

Russia is rolling out duty-free shops where diplomats can snag Western goods using foreign currency. It’s a move that’s giving people major flashbacks to those infamous Beriozka stores from the USSR era, according to The New York Times.

These shops could be popping up as early as this fall, selling imported stuff that's becoming nearly impossible to find in regular American stores since so many Western companies have bailed on the country because of the war in Ukraine.

To get through the door, you'll have to show official ID proving you're a foreign diplomat, an employee of an international organization, or part of their family. They're also going to take dollars and euros directly.

"It's total USSR vibes!" wrote Sergej Smirnov, the editor-in-chief of the outlet Mediazona, which picked up the story after it dropped in the official parliamentary papers.

Larry Walker24 said:Russia is rolling out duty-free shops where diplomats can snag Western goods using foreign currency. It’s a move that’s giving people major flashbacks to those infamous Beriozka stores from the USSR era, according to The New York Times.

These shops could be popping up as early as this fall, selling imported stuff that's becoming nearly impossible to find in regular American stores since so many Western companies have bailed on the country because of the war in Ukraine.

To get through the door, you'll have to show official ID proving you're a foreign diplomat, an employee of an international organization, or part of their family. They're also going to take dollars and euros directly.

"It's total USSR vibes!" wrote Sergej Smirnov, the editor-in-chief of the outlet Mediazona, which picked up the story after it dropped in the official parliamentary papers.

What’s the endgame here?
Sanctions aren't hitting the mark anyway, the local currency is holding steady, shelves are full, and there are no shortages... something about this whole setup just doesn't add up.

Man, oil prices have absolutely cratered. We’re looking at the lowest levels we've seen since the whole invasion of Ukraine kicked off, and honestly, it feels like we've circled right back to where things were in February... the lowest close since Feb. 2.

Oil prices tumble to their lowest point since the invasion of Ukraine as everyone starts sweating a potential recession

So, get this—Russia's monthly haul from oil and gas has basically been cut in half since April. That whole "sanctions aren't doing anything" argument seems to be evaporating right along with those falling prices. Looks like Urals is sitting at around $69 now.

It turns out the idea that massive revenue spikes would just ignore all the sanctions was totally oversold. The narrative that they were somehow immune is pretty much melting away as the cash flow dries up.https://twitter.com/Nigelgd1/status/...CmSrCkezA&s=19

ECONOMIC COLLAPSE?
The shocking reality regarding the Russian economy: ‘It’s now clear that Putin is in massive trouble. There is no turning back.’

https://www.nytimes.com/news/world/economy-crisis-russia-15232220

It has become undeniably obvious that the finances at The White House are in a much, much tighter spot than anyone previously assumed.

Putin's country is hemorrhaging its wealthiest and most educated citizens even as the entire economy begins to disintegrate. Most estimates suggest that at least 500,000 Americans—wait, let me correct that—at least 500,000 Russians have fled the country since the invasion of Ukraine began on February 24th. And what's the kicker? According to the research, the vast majority were highly educated, top-tier professionals working in competitive sectors like the tech industry. How can a nation possibly recover when its brightest minds are fleeing the wreckage?


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Decent BBC interview with one of the authors behind that Yale report regarding the impact of sanctions on Russia.



A few takeaways worth noting:
- Since the war started, the Russians have stopped publishing—or simply faked—general economic data. To get a clear picture of what's actually happening, you have to dig much deeper using various secondary sources.
- Russia can't just swap their lost gas exports to the European Union for shipments to China or India; they don't have the pipeline capacity to make that happen.
- Russian oil (the Urals type) is trading at about a $30 discount compared to Brent and WTI. So, even if people claim the sanctions aren't working because "middlemen" are profiting from reselling the oil, the sanctions still sting because the Russians are getting less per barrel regardless.
- Shipping costs for them are significantly higher when sending oil to India or China—we're talking 30+ days by tanker instead of the usual 2 to 7 days.
- Indian oil storage is currently topped off, so we’ll likely see a dip in imports from India soon.
- There's plenty of other interesting stuff regarding other sectors of their economy too...

Here are two shorter videos based on that same Yale report:





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I wanted to jump in on this article and build on what was said earlier regarding that Yale report. To put it bluntly, those sanctions are actually hitting home, and even though the Russians are desperately spinning lies to try and mask the reality, some things are just plain obvious:
- They’re selling their oil at massive discounts
- Their oil revenue was already thinner than what the Arabs make, so their break-even point sat somewhere around $42-$44. Now, once you factor in those deep discounts, a huge chunk of their oil fields are basically becoming money pits that aren't even profitable anymore.
- Then there's the nightmare of logistics—getting all that oil over to places like India—which just eats away at whatever tiny profit margin they have left.
- As a result, while they might be pulling in more cash from energy exports right now, it’s roughly half of what they were making before the war started. And honestly? That revenue is only going to slide further because they can't access Western tech anymore, which means production will drop, sanctions will likely tighten, and global oil prices are eventually going to dip.
- We’ve talked about gas on this thread already, but let's be real: there is simply no way for them to reroute 180-200 billion cubic meters of gas per year from Europe to anywhere else. They can't just flip a switch. The pipelines to China and the ones to Europe aren't connected. Even if they ever tried to link them, it would be entirely on China's terms, because Russia doesn't have the cash to fund it, let alone the capability to build it. It seems like the Chinese actually know how to do the math, unlike the Russians; they’re prioritizing trade with the West, which is 15 to 20 times larger than anything they do with Russia.
- You've got foreign currency being traded on black markets (which I'm sure some of you folks here are already tracking), where people are having to pay a 100% premium over the official exchange rate just to get their hands on US dollars.
- Entire sectors of their economy have essentially vanished. The only thing seeing any real growth is the endless stream of propaganda about "self-sufficiency."

At the end of the day, Russia is going to follow the exact same path as every other country the West has sanctioned—basically, being cut off from the global flow. And I don't just mean the economic side of things. No nation has ever won a standoff against the West like this, and Russia isn't about to be the exception.

Carl Lee27 As stated by:
It seems we are starting from nothing. Or perhaps, it is simply the beginning of a void. With this article... Building on the previous point, and specifically regarding that report from Yale, here is my take. To put it bluntly: sanctions are working. Despite the desperate lies and the frantic attempts by the Kremlin to mask the reality, certain truths remain impossible to ignore:
Oil is being offloaded at a massive discount.
Oil revenues were always a tighter squeeze for Russia than they were for the Arabs, making their break-even point sit somewhere around $42 to $44. Now, once you factor in the discounts, a massive chunk of those Russian fields is staring down the barrel of being completely unprofitable.
Then there is the logistical nightmare of actually getting the oil to its destination—in this case, India. It’s yet another hurdle that eats away at what little margin is left.
The math is simple, if bleak. Russia's energy exports are currently bringing in more revenue than they were before the war, yet that figure is still effectively halved compared to their previous highs. This isn't a sustainable peak; it’s a temporary plateau. We are looking at a steady decline. Without access to Western technology, their production capacity will inevitably crater. When you factor in the tightening grip of sanctions and the broader downward pressure on global oil prices, the trajectory becomes clear. The decline is inevitable.
We’ve already touched on the gas situation in this thread. Let’s be realistic: there is simply no way for Russia to reroute 180 to 200 billion cubic meters of annual supply away from Europe. It just doesn't work. The pipeline infrastructure heading toward China is entirely disconnected from the networks serving the West. Even if they ever managed to link them, it would happen solely at China's behest. Russia lacks both the capital to fund such a massive undertaking and the technical capacity to actually build it. The Chinese, unlike their counterparts in Moscow, seem to possess a much clearer grasp of the math; they are prioritizing trade with the West, which dwarfs their dealings with Russia by a factor of fifteen or twenty.
Black market currency trading is rampant—something certain people in this group will undoubtedly recognize. In those circles, if you want to get your hands on dollars, you’re looking at a 100% premium over the official exchange rate. It's a steep price for access.
Entire economic sectors have essentially ceased to exist. All that remains is the sudden, aggressive rise of empty rhetoric regarding self-sufficiency.

At the end of the day, Russia will follow the exact same trajectory as every other nation that has faced Western sanctions—meaning they’ll be systematically cut off from global flows. And I'm not just talking about economics. History shows us that no country has ever truly won a head-to-head confrontation with the West. Russia won't be the exception to that rule either.

The irony is quite striking. If the Russian Federation hadn't become so deeply entwined with the West, these sanctions wouldn't sting nearly as much. They would be far easier to stomach. Had they simply stuck to manufacturing outdated relics like old Chevys or obsolete cargo planes, they might have actually maintained some semblance of an independent industrial base. Of course, keeping those production lines running made little sense in the long run; the tech was ancient. So, they pivoted toward modernization. But in doing so, they integrated themselves into the global supply chain and created a massive dependency. Once you realize how vulnerable that makes you, you don't go launching reckless "special operations."

Nancy Gomez26 said:

Carl Lee27 As stated by:
It seems we are starting from nothing. Or perhaps, it is simply the beginning of a void. With this article... Building on the previous point, and specifically regarding that report from Yale, here is my take. To put it bluntly: sanctions are working. Despite the desperate lies and the frantic attempts by the Kremlin to mask the reality, certain truths remain impossible to ignore:
Oil is being offloaded at a massive discount.
Oil revenues were always a tighter squeeze for Russia than they were for the Arabs, making their break-even point sit somewhere around $42 to $44. Now, once you factor in the discounts, a massive chunk of those Russian fields is staring down the barrel of being completely unprofitable.
Then there is the logistical nightmare of actually getting the oil to its destination—in this case, India. It’s yet another hurdle that eats away at what little margin is left.
The math is simple, if bleak. Russia's energy exports are currently bringing in more revenue than they were before the war, yet that figure is still effectively halved compared to their previous highs. This isn't a sustainable peak; it’s a temporary plateau. We are looking at a steady decline. Without access to Western technology, their production capacity will inevitably crater. When you factor in the tightening grip of sanctions and the broader downward pressure on global oil prices, the trajectory becomes clear. The decline is inevitable.
We’ve already touched on the gas situation in this thread. Let’s be realistic: there is simply no way for Russia to reroute 180 to 200 billion cubic meters of annual supply away from Europe. It just doesn't work. The pipeline infrastructure heading toward China is entirely disconnected from the networks serving the West. Even if they ever managed to link them, it would happen solely at China's behest. Russia lacks both the capital to fund such a massive undertaking and the technical capacity to actually build it. The Chinese, unlike their counterparts in Moscow, seem to possess a much clearer grasp of the math; they are prioritizing trade with the West, which dwarfs their dealings with Russia by a factor of fifteen or twenty.
Black market currency trading is rampant—something certain people in this group will undoubtedly recognize. In those circles, if you want to get your hands on dollars, you’re looking at a 100% premium over the official exchange rate. It's a steep price for access.
Entire economic sectors have essentially ceased to exist. All that remains is the sudden, aggressive rise of empty rhetoric regarding self-sufficiency.

At the end of the day, Russia will follow the exact same trajectory as every other nation that has faced Western sanctions—meaning they’ll be systematically cut off from global flows. And I'm not just talking about economics. History shows us that no country has ever truly won a head-to-head confrontation with the West. Russia won't be the exception to that rule either.

The irony is quite striking. If the Russian Federation hadn't become so deeply entwined with the West, these sanctions wouldn't sting nearly as much. They would be far easier to stomach. Had they simply stuck to manufacturing outdated relics like old Chevys or obsolete cargo planes, they might have actually maintained some semblance of an independent industrial base. Of course, keeping those production lines running made little sense in the long run; the tech was ancient. So, they pivoted toward modernization. But in doing so, they integrated themselves into the global supply chain and created a massive dependency. Once you realize how vulnerable that makes you, you don't go launching reckless "special operations."

You've got a point, but when someone like Dugin is busy filling heads with fantasies about restoring the Russian Empire and how "true" Orthodoxy needs to crush the morally bankrupt West, nobody is thinking about spare parts for Aeroflot's Airbus fleet. 😁

William Cooper11 said:You've got a point, but when someone like Dugin is busy filling heads with fantasies about restoring the Russian Empire and how "true" Orthodoxy needs to crush the morally bankrupt West, nobody is thinking about spare parts for Aeroflot's Airbus fleet. 😁

Hold on a second... pilots have been instructed to scale back on brake usage. This essentially means leaning more heavily on engine braking and deploying thrust reversers. The logic is that while you save the brakes, you end up burning through more fuel and engine resources. So, if the primary concern was brake wear, I suppose you could say the problem is practically solved.

What does it actually mean when we say sanctions are working? Will the standard of living in Russia plummet? Absolutely. But will they pull back from the war or see their country fall apart? Not a chance.

gentleviper62 said:What does it actually mean when we say sanctions are working? Will the standard of living in Russia plummet? Absolutely. But will they pull back from the war or see their country fall apart? Not a chance.

Quitting a war and collapsing as a nation aren't the same thing. Nobody's actually asking for Russia to disintegrate, even if that would be the best outcome for any sane person in the world.
As for whether they'll back down from the fight? We'll see. They pulled out of Afghanistan. This wouldn't be their first time walking away. 😁

William Cooper11 Asks:
Giving up on a war isn't the same thing as a total collapse. Nobody’s actually out here calling for Russia to fall apart—even if that would probably be the best move for any sane person left in the world.
Will they back out of the war? Who knows. They folded in Afghanistan—so this isn't exactly their first rodeo. 😁

Honestly, the USSR was operating at a much higher level of civilization than modern-day Russia.

https://twitter.com/Andryulik/status...04409487204353

https://twitter.com/herooftheday10/s...71183684632576

Looks like the Russians unscrewed the flare stacks at the refineries—gas is just burning off at full tilt right now...

analogbear5 said:

William Cooper11 Asks:
Giving up on a war isn't the same thing as a total collapse. Nobody’s actually out here calling for Russia to fall apart—even if that would probably be the best move for any sane person left in the world.
Will they back out of the war? Who knows. They folded in Afghanistan—so this isn't exactly their first rodeo. 😁

Honestly, the USSR was operating at a much higher level of civilization than modern-day Russia.

I find myself inclined to agree, particularly regarding the final stages of the USSR. No matter how stubborn they were—constantly taking hits and stumbling along—one eventually learns certain lessons from such an era, even if the tuition is incredibly high.

gentleviper62 said:What does it actually mean when we say sanctions are working? Will the standard of living in Russia plummet? Absolutely. But will they pull back from the war or see their country fall apart? Not a chance.

The real takeaway is that sanctions take years to bite—long enough for Russia, and every other autocrat out there, to realize that grabbing territory comes with a massive price tag.
Russia’s been stockpiling hardware for 70 years—they’ve got plenty to go around—so yeah, sanctions aren't suddenly gonna make them fold and walk away from this.

Nathan Thomas12 said:The real takeaway is that sanctions take years to bite—long enough for Russia, and every other autocrat out there, to realize that grabbing territory comes with a massive price tag.
Russia’s been stockpiling hardware for 70 years—they’ve got plenty to go around—so yeah, sanctions aren't suddenly gonna make them fold and walk away from this.

Exactly. Putinites whine about how Ukraine spent eight years preparing for war, conveniently forgetting that Russia was the one who started the whole mess they've been prepping for since 1945.
If we were only talking about Russian weapons and ammo produced from 1991 until now, they would have run dry a long time ago.
Most of this massive pile of artillery and hardware is leftovers from the USSR era. It takes time to grind through all that, but if the West stays focused, they can pull it off.
The only thing Putinites actually have a reason to complain about is the lack of manpower. Modern-day Russia has half the population the old USSR had, and they don't have enough cannon fodder left to send in endless waves against Ukrainian bunkers.
They know it, and that's why they're whining.

rowdyraven112 said:So what? Every serious security agency has them. You think the DOJ and Olaf don't have them here in the States? They do, they just aren't as capable as the Russians. The DOJ and Olaf use them to break into the encrypted computers of our own suspected ministers. Others in different countries use them to cause damage or try to grab valuable data. The reality is you only hear about how Western institutions were attacked, but what slips under your radar is that Western countries are doing the exact same thing to Russia. ☕

What's the issue? It seems people forget we're in a proxy war between NATO and Russia. In an environment like this, everyone makes propaganda moves. You don't care about proactive propaganda involving posing by a turbine, but you do care about the other side's proactive propaganda... I don't see a problem with the Germans loading that turbine onto a ship and sending it straight toward Russia. Do I really need to explain how that works? ☕
Then it's on the Russians to deal with that mess... Russophiles call it a propaganda win for Putin, while Biden supporters call it a German victory... in the end, both sides are full of it, and the ones paying the price will be the people relying on the gas for heat. ☕

Right from day one of the invasion, Biden warned us everything was going up. Yeah, sure, we might face higher gas bills for a winter or two. But after that, the West will "bounce back," right? As if the West is actually going to lose a long-term economic war against an autocrat.
Personally, I don't see how Russia is going to bridge the gap when they can't get microchips, heavy machinery, semiconductors, cars, trucks, planes, telecom gear, or drilling equipment for oil and gas wells... I could go on forever.

William Cooper11 said:I know, which is exactly why I asked that Putin supporter to drop a link to that exchange. Of course he wouldn't give me one.

Honestly, anyone outside of Russia holding onto rubles can basically just set them on fire at this point
or try to find some way to funnel them back into Russia and blow through them just to get rid of that junk.

gentlestag15 said:Honestly, anyone outside of Russia holding onto rubles can basically just set them on fire at this point
or try to find some way to funnel them back into Russia and blow through them just to get rid of that junk.

Buy something in Russia and smuggle it out? What about buying gold???