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driftinggull21 driftinggull21 Active Member
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#2141 ·
velvetsailor26 said:So, I’m sitting there in my follow-up appointment, and the doctor drops this line about me having "psychotic elements." Honestly, it just went completely over my head. I've been staring at the ceiling trying to wrap my brain around what that actually implies, because, frankly, none of it makes any sense to me.

I’ll probably have to sit down and hash this out with her for a bit.☕

Even anorexia involves psychotic elements... an entire distortion of body image where a girl weighing 80 pounds still perceives herself as overweight.
Nicole Barrett76 Nicole Barrett76 Regular
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#2142 ·
Nicholas Gomez27 said:Is there any truth to the idea that you can manage schizophrenia using herbal remedies?

Also, how does LSD actually impact someone dealing with schizophrenia?

I'm really curious to hear about your personal experiences with this—thanks a ton for sharing.

Would you really attempt to treat schizophrenia with LSD, when the brain of someone experiencing a psychotic episode naturally produces a substance nearly identical to it, known as LSD-25?
Henry Turner3 Henry Turner3 Newcomer
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#2143 ·
Hey everyone... I haven't had a chance to read through everything because there’s a massive amount of content here and my schedule is absolutely slammed...😢...but I couldn't just sit here without asking for some help from anyone who actually has firsthand experience. Maybe this has been covered already, but I honestly don't have the bandwidth to dig through old threads right now, and I don't have a computer at home... so, please, help me out. Look, I don't personally deal with this, but I know people living with schizophrenia. I want to know: have you ever felt driven to take your own life? If you have, what kind of methods were you even considering? I realize this is a heavy, perhaps even distasteful question to ask, and I know that for those dealing with this illness, revisiting those dark moments can be incredibly difficult... but I'm just trying to make sense of the actions of someone I love. I need to understand what they were feeling in that exact moment; I have to. Please, if anyone here understands this illness and these kinds of intrusive, frantic thoughts, let me know. You can also reach out via DM. Please, just help me understand.
Jamie Martinez6 Jamie Martinez6 Newcomer
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#2144 ·
Some close family of mine tried to end it all during one of her episodes... she described it as this crushing chest pain, just pure, overwhelming sorrow, feeling totally rejected... even physical pain right in the heart... she couldn't eat for anything, just stayed bedridden... deep depression
you've also got the paranoia kicking in—that feeling that someone's out to get you, so you try to beat them to the punch by taking your own life...
can someone break down what kind of mental breakdown she was dealing with? how was she acting toward the end?
really sorry for you 😢
Henry Turner3 Henry Turner3 Newcomer
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#2145 ·
The doctors just kept repeating the same thing: schizophrenia. When they were having episodes, things got aggressive—their perception of reality would warp, hallucinations, the whole nine yards. But for years, they were totally fine. They lost weight, sure, but otherwise, they’ve been functioning perfectly normally for seven years. Working, living, just being a regular person. On that one fatal day, everything seemed perfect. We were having a normal conversation, everything was fine. Then, out of nowhere, I get the call. They're gone. Suicide. And the kicker? That very morning, we were making plans to meet up in the afternoon to tackle some errands together—you know, paying bills, hitting the grocery store... and then suddenly, without a single text, without any warning... nothing. I’m just sitting here trying to wrap my head around what was going through their mind at that exact moment. I want to know: how do people with this diagnosis usually decide to end it? The doctor later acted like it was obvious, dead serious about how they did it. So now I’m wondering, is this how people with this condition typically handle things? I don't know, I'm just lost. I just want to understand. What breaks inside someone in a single heartbeat without leaving a single trace? And is there really this pattern where a doctor can just instantly guess, like, "Oh yeah, they definitely did it this way"... I mean, how could he possibly know? He hasn't even talked to them for six years.
Jamie Martinez6 Jamie Martinez6 Newcomer
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#2146 ·
Henry Turner3 said:The doctors just kept repeating the same thing: schizophrenia. When they were having episodes, things got aggressive—their perception of reality would warp, hallucinations, the whole nine yards. But for years, they were totally fine. They lost weight, sure, but otherwise, they’ve been functioning perfectly normally for seven years. Working, living, just being a regular person. On that one fatal day, everything seemed perfect. We were having a normal conversation, everything was fine. Then, out of nowhere, I get the call. They're gone. Suicide. And the kicker? That very morning, we were making plans to meet up in the afternoon to tackle some errands together—you know, paying bills, hitting the grocery store... and then suddenly, without a single text, without any warning... nothing. I’m just sitting here trying to wrap my head around what was going through their mind at that exact moment. I want to know: how do people with this diagnosis usually decide to end it? The doctor later acted like it was obvious, dead serious about how they did it. So now I’m wondering, is this how people with this condition typically handle things? I don't know, I'm just lost. I just want to understand. What breaks inside someone in a single heartbeat without leaving a single trace? And is there really this pattern where a doctor can just instantly guess, like, "Oh yeah, they definitely did it this way"... I mean, how could he possibly know? He hasn't even talked to them for six years.


That’s heavy. Honestly, it varies so much that I don't think searching for answers will help you... it's a brutal disease. No one can truly know what went down in someone's head at that second. As much as we want to make sense of it, we have to accept that the brain is the most unpredictable thing out there. It runs on impulses no one can map...
Who knows what happened in there... hang in there and try not to let it eat you alive...
Maria Williams55 Maria Williams55 Member
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#2147 ·
I’m guessing there might be someone here who actually knows their stuff or has some insight, so I figured I’d just ask...
Does it actually matter for the baby's health if the father is dealing with this illness? Like, is there any chance of complications or birth defects because of the medication he's taking?
Henry Turner3 Henry Turner3 Newcomer
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#2148 ·
Maria Williams55 said:I’m guessing there might be someone here who actually knows their stuff or has some insight, so I figured I’d just ask...
Does it actually matter for the baby's health if the father is dealing with this illness? Like, is there any chance of complications or birth defects because of the medication he's taking?

Hey Maria Williams55... check your PMs.
Peter Rogers6 Peter Rogers6 Newcomer
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#2149 ·
Wondering how much schizophrenia—if at all—actually compares to the headspace, perception, and thought loops you get on a trip.
So, I was tripping in a park with some friends, and right before dawn, this older lady wanders up wearing this pink nightgown-looking thing. She just sits down under the tree with us. From like two hundred yards away, seeing her grinning and looking straight at us, I thought:
- "Yeah, she’s one of us."
She was just waiting for the local Episcopal church to open so she could head to early mass and flirt with this young priest who’d just started his ministry. She joined our convo immediately. Straight up called us out, pointing at the "moons in my eyes," as she put it. We were so fried; we couldn't even talk to the sober crowd hanging out by the pub earlier, so we bailed to this little patch of nature downtown to escape the bad vibes. But with the lady in the nightgown, we vibed perfectly, even when the associations got totally wild. She talked like she was part of the crew, dropping lines for an hour that had us rolling on the grass laughing. No need to hide the trip from her; her own mental movies were moving way faster than ours, and nobody even suspected she might be crazy. It felt totally normal. She carried herself like an intellectual from some high-society family in Chicago. Turns out she used to be a fashion designer in Paris back in the day (not my own theory, though—one of my buddies is her nephew, and he confirmed the whole story). Now, she heads to the front pew every morning to stare lovingly at the priest while he talks to God, blushing under his gaze. Then, after service, she’ll grab his hand during the greeting and won't let go, telling him how wonderful he is:
- "Oh, my sweet little man!" and he just fidgets, clearly uncomfortable, praying she'll stop:
- "Ma'am, didn't we talk about this yesterday? Don't we do this every single day?"
And then she’ll propose to him again, and he’ll just stumble through saying he’s a man of God before ducking behind the altar in his purple liturgical robes. When I asked her later, "What's her deal?" she just laughed and said:
- "You think I'm crazy? I know nothing's happening in the sky. He's just a drooling priest..."—she kissed the rosary around her neck, looked up at the sky, and muttered forgive me, God, then gave a little smirk: - "...and I'm just an old woman!"
The church doors opened, and the guy in the purple robes stepped out to face his congregation. She jumped up like a hawk and whispered conspiratorially:
- "I love teasing him." Then she bolted toward the church, yelling:
- "Coming, honey!"
Anyway, damn, I'm rambling now...
Fast forward a week. I'm sober, walking through town, and I run into her. She was exactly the same as that morning, but I felt different—kind of broken. I couldn't follow her train of thought; half the stuff she said made zero sense to me, and I finally realized she was actually pretty far gone. It was exhausting. She'd talk about things that made no sense to me, even though she had to head to church right after. I told her I had to run, and she showed me where she lived, inviting me and my friends over for coffee sometime. I promised I would, though I never did. That gap between how I perceived her madness while on acid versus how I saw it during my everyday life made me dig a little deeper. I connected the dots with her nephew—who, by the way, looked like he was at his wit's end talking about her—and eventually found out her diagnosis. Schizophrenia.
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
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#2150 ·
Schizophrenia is essentially a condition where you find yourself completely convinced of something that simply isn't true. It can show up through various ways, whether it's dealing with hallucinations, a total retreat from reality, or just some other unpredictable way the mind tries to make sense of things.
Larry Howard8 Larry Howard8 Active Member
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#2151 ·
Syd Barrett basically lost his grip on reality after going too hard on LSD.

Seriously, you can't mess around with that stuff...
☕
Peter Rogers6 Peter Rogers6 Newcomer
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#2152 ·
Harold Anderson3 said:Schizophrenia is essentially a condition where you find yourself completely convinced of something that simply isn't true. It can show up through various ways, whether it's dealing with hallucinations, a total retreat from reality, or just some other unpredictable way the mind tries to make sense of things.

I mean, yeah, but that happens on a trip too...
Peter Rogers6 Peter Rogers6 Newcomer
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#2153 ·
Larry Howard8 said:Syd Barrett basically lost his grip on reality after going too hard on LSD.

Seriously, you can't mess around with that stuff...
☕

I’ve got a buddy whose trip triggered schizophrenia too, but that wasn't even my point.
Jamie Martinez6 Jamie Martinez6 Newcomer
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#2154 ·
Schizophrenia is a hell of a thing to wrap your head around... honestly, watching *A Beautiful Mind* really helped me get it...
just go download it or borrow it from the library and give it a watch. you'll see how deep the rabbit hole goes and just how brutal it is when those people realize their own reality isn't actually real.
Larry Howard8 Larry Howard8 Active Member
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#2155 ·
That’s actually what scares me the most,
the idea that I might convince myself of something completely wrong and then find it impossible to see reason again...

It’s my own personal nightmare, and honestly, there's no running away from that fear.

😢
crimsontinker7 crimsontinker7 Member
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#2156 ·
I have a brother who developed schizophrenia because of LSD. He spent an entire year seeing a psychiatrist, and he’s still on medication to this day. Thankfully, things are looking up now—his symptoms are almost unnoticeable. I think I might go watch Genius Mind...
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
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#2157 ·
Peter Rogers6 said:I mean, yeah, but that happens on a trip too...

But I think the real issue is that when you're dealing with schizophrenia, these things happen constantly without needing any extra substances to trigger them. It’s a bit like the difference between being paralyzed for a few hours after a surgery and being paralyzed for the rest of your life because of a spinal cord injury.
I've only ever used marijuana, and when I mentioned that to my psychiatrist, she just looked at me and said, "Well, that's exactly what you aren't supposed to be doing."
Carol Hall7 Carol Hall7 Newcomer
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#2158 ·
That’s just my take on it.
For those who aren't clued in, my f-score is a solid 25.0 on the schizoaffective scale.
Basically, I’m a little bit of everything.
When I’m high and feeling like I could sell ice to an Eskimo, everyone suddenly thinks I'm the greatest thing ever.
People are smiling at me—hell, just yesterday some guy I barely even know handed me a book.

That’s the high talking; that elevated mood where you feel like you’re walking through a field of flowers.
It’s a little bit unhealthy, honestly—just way too much life optimism packed into one dose.

Then there’s the part where I get this urge to mess with people, which is where the "schizo" part kicks in.
And don't forget:
someone is following me
someone is trying to poison me
someone is eavesdropping on my thoughts
there are articles about me in the newspapers
if a red car drives by and then a yellow one follows, it means something terrible is about to happen
I can make you climax without even touching you
and so on.
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
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#2159 ·
Carol Hall7 said:That’s just my take on it.
For those who aren't clued in, my f-score is a solid 25.0 on the schizoaffective scale.
Basically, I’m a little bit of everything.
When I’m high and feeling like I could sell ice to an Eskimo, everyone suddenly thinks I'm the greatest thing ever.
People are smiling at me—hell, just yesterday some guy I barely even know handed me a book.

That’s the high talking; that elevated mood where you feel like you’re walking through a field of flowers.
It’s a little bit unhealthy, honestly—just way too much life optimism packed into one dose.

Then there’s the part where I get this urge to mess with people, which is where the "schizo" part kicks in.
And don't forget:
someone is following me
someone is trying to poison me
someone is eavesdropping on my thoughts
there are articles about me in the newspapers
if a red car drives by and then a yellow one follows, it means something terrible is about to happen
I can make you climax without even touching you
and so on.

So, you're fully convinced this is all happening, which just isn't the reality. That's where the delusion kicks in.
I actually went through a phase where I thought everything from that specific "Day D" was being filmed and broadcast on national TV, but it wasn't even mentioned on the local news, haha.😂
Carol Hall7 Carol Hall7 Newcomer
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#2160 ·
Harold Anderson3 said:So, you're fully convinced this is all happening, which just isn't the reality. That's where the delusion kicks in.
I actually went through a phase where I thought everything from that specific "Day D" was being filmed and broadcast on national TV, but it wasn't even mentioned on the local news, haha.😂

Something like that. Thank god I dodged that bullet. Or maybe my meds are just doing their job.

I know plenty of people dealing with schizophrenia—including my own little episodes—so I think I get where they're coming from.

In my book, you can't just watch a documentary about a genius mind and suddenly claim you understand what it's like to be schizophrenic.

You nailed it, though—you know it isn't true, and your brain knows it too,
trying its best to fix things so you don't see random girls or phantom roommates,
but then some dark shadow creeps up behind you, and suddenly you're believing in things that aren't there. Throw in a bit of mania or a manic high, and boom—you're spending the summer at a facility in Los Angeles.

For a few months, at least.

And if you're lucky enough to catch the right cocktail of chemicals, your whole
world of glitches disappears.

And you're left with raw reality: just the boring, pointless grind of life.

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