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David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#4281 ·
ruggedtinker9 said:I have been two years without any bouts of psychosis now... I am currently on 5mg of olanzapine, though I barely even feel the effects of the medication itself... Perhaps it calms me down slightly in the evening, which I suppose is fine. I have managed to find a job, I am in a relationship, I live on my own, and I handle all my responsibilities; I have also started taking certain supplements that seem to assist me by providing great energy, focus, and a sense of rejuvenation, or so it feels to me. I am not experiencing depression or any cognitive issues—essentially, there are no positive or negative symptoms. A great deal can change in the span of two years, and I believe the worst thing one can do is fail to try or lose faith that things can actually improve. More devastating than anything else is the treatment process for that crisis state known as psychosis. Even the psychosis itself isn't the most terrifying part; rather, it is the way people treat those who are in such a state. I hope I won't experience psychosis again, as my doctor wants to taper me off my medication, but I don't feel quite ready for that step yet. Furthermore, I suspect that the entire "mental illness" sector is somewhat exaggerated; I still maintain the view that mental illnesses aren't true diseases, but rather specific mechanisms for coping with life itself.

Two whole years? Man, when I was in the middle of an acute psychotic episode, my doctors told me it would take at least eight years before they'd even consider tapering me off the medication.
ruggedtinker9 ruggedtinker9 Member
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#4282 ·
I suppose I am also of the opinion that it might be prudent to maintain this level of stability for a bit longer... Consequently, I have decided against discontinuing my treatment... Since I don't particularly feel the effects of the therapy anyway, I suppose it makes little difference to me 🙂
Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 Regular
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#4283 ·
ruggedtinker9 said:I have been two years without any bouts of psychosis now... I am currently on 5mg of olanzapine, though I barely even feel the effects of the medication itself... Perhaps it calms me down slightly in the evening, which I suppose is fine. I have managed to find a job, I am in a relationship, I live on my own, and I handle all my responsibilities; I have also started taking certain supplements that seem to assist me by providing great energy, focus, and a sense of rejuvenation, or so it feels to me. I am not experiencing depression or any cognitive issues—essentially, there are no positive or negative symptoms. A great deal can change in the span of two years, and I believe the worst thing one can do is fail to try or lose faith that things can actually improve. More devastating than anything else is the treatment process for that crisis state known as psychosis. Even the psychosis itself isn't the most terrifying part; rather, it is the way people treat those who are in such a state. I hope I won't experience psychosis again, as my doctor wants to taper me off my medication, but I don't feel quite ready for that step yet. Furthermore, I suspect that the entire "mental illness" sector is somewhat exaggerated; I still maintain the view that mental illnesses aren't true diseases, but rather specific mechanisms for coping with life itself.

You have unconsciously opened up a topic that I have been trying to write about with such dread, constantly delaying it... I don't even know why myself.
I am convinced that mental illnesses are, in some way, curable. At least, that is how I have come to perceive it.
But regardless of that... every single day, I find myself becoming more and more convinced that this might actually be the case. I cannot claim it as an absolute fact, but certain things suggest to me that this could be one of the alternatives.
It concerns the number of neurons connected within what we call neural circuits. Now, it isn't vital to know exactly how they are grouped, but generally speaking, groups of neurons constitute neural systems.
By grouping these systems, you get systems-of-systems.
So, when neurons become active—using the jargon, "firing"—an electrical current travels from the cell body to the synapses, and that is where the release of chemical compounds, namely neurotransmitters (like glutamate, for instance), begins.
Through interaction with neighboring neurons—the synapses—it is determined whether the adjacent neuron will activate.
Perhaps it seems somewhat complicated at first glance, but in reality, it is quite simple.
There are over 10 billion neurons and 10 trillion synapses! (since every single neuron can have up to 1,000 synapses).

And this brings me to the reason why I am writing.
Because of this massive number of neurons and synapses, a neuron can only "communicate" with its neighbors—which means a very small subset of neurons—and never with the majority or all of them at once.
Logic dictates that if one group of neurons is damaged, it only communicates with the immediate neighboring groups.
Which means, if we are talking about a specific disorder, it is localized to just one small cluster of neurons, certainly not to a large portion or the entire system.
When medication stimulates normal function and the exchange of neurotransmitters, the illness is essentially bypassed. Neuronal communication stabilizes. It returns to normal operation.
We might still possess the awareness (or rather, the subconsciousness) that we were ill, but that is not the true state of the organism.
The illness is then gone. We don't have it.
It is worth reflecting upon.
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#4284 ·
Kevin Nguyen3, there is an endless amount of ground to cover here—we could go on forever about brain pathology, our inherent temperament, how medication shifts the needle, environmental factors, our cultural attitudes toward illness, the sheer intensity of symptoms, even those innate flaws we’re all born with... it’s a rabbit hole, truly.
I’ve found myself wrestling with these exact same questions before. It really comes down to whether life simply molds you into who you are—or rather, how life shapes you, though obviously, you have some agency in the matter, yet most of it seems dictated by the immediate reality surrounding you.
Before I fell ill, I was a relentless optimist—the kind of guy everyone wanted around, someone who could charm just about any girl in town if he tried enough.🙂 But once things took a turn, my grandfather—a man who was anything but dim-witted or narrow-minded—told me he had sensed "something" about me since I was just a kid, something he’d actually warned my parents about back then.

In terms of my journey, I’ve managed to crawl from being completely incapacitated to becoming a man dealing with specific psychological struggles, and I am doing my level best to push toward something better—though, honestly, I’m not sure if I can realistically demand a faster recovery from myself.
The bottom line is that I’m satisfied with the progress I’ve made in my recovery; that sense of achievement provides a certain stability and the willpower to keep moving forward.

It isn't as simple as being either "healthy" or "sick"—there are so many shades of gray in between.
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
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#4285 ·
Nicole Barrett76 said:Suppose we find ourselves in a small American town where two individuals living with schizophrenia both know each other's diagnosis—perhaps they even attended the same group therapy sessions together.

Now, imagine one of them suffers an acute psychotic episode; his family calls 911 immediately, but in this scenario, neither the paramedics nor the police can arrive in time. In that desperate moment, all they have left is the option to ask the other individual—who is currently stable—to share his antipsychotic medication to help calm the situation.

The complication, however, is that both men are prescribed entirely different types of antipsychotics for their specific needs.

In such a dire crisis, is it more prudent to wait for the emergency responders to arrive with the correct prescription, or is there any wisdom in reaching for the medication held by the other person?

When dealing with acute psychosis, three pink pills and two green ones just aren't going to cut it if you want someone back on track. It's also a bit foolish to play doctor...

Larry Lewis said:Kevin Nguyen3, there is an endless amount of ground to cover here—we could go on forever about brain pathology, our inherent temperament, how medication shifts the needle, environmental factors, our cultural attitudes toward illness, the sheer intensity of symptoms, even those innate flaws we’re all born with... it’s a rabbit hole, truly.
I’ve found myself wrestling with these exact same questions before. It really comes down to whether life simply molds you into who you are—or rather, how life shapes you, though obviously, you have some agency in the matter, yet most of it seems dictated by the immediate reality surrounding you.
Before I fell ill, I was a relentless optimist—the kind of guy everyone wanted around, someone who could charm just about any girl in town if he tried enough.🙂 But once things took a turn, my grandfather—a man who was anything but dim-witted or narrow-minded—told me he had sensed "something" about me since I was just a kid, something he’d actually warned my parents about back then.

In terms of my journey, I’ve managed to crawl from being completely incapacitated to becoming a man dealing with specific psychological struggles, and I am doing my level best to push toward something better—though, honestly, I’m not sure if I can realistically demand a faster recovery from myself.
The bottom line is that I’m satisfied with the progress I’ve made in my recovery; that sense of achievement provides a certain stability and the willpower to keep moving forward.

It isn't as simple as being either "healthy" or "sick"—there are so many shades of gray in between.

Your sense of humor is truly brilliant... 😍

(If I may weigh in for a moment... Just a little something to brighten the mood...)
Arthur Scott5 Arthur Scott5 Member
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#4286 ·
I suppose we all lose our grip on reality from time to time. 😕
steeleagle36 steeleagle36 Newcomer
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#4287 ·
Taylor Swift said:
You should have started a new thread for this. This isn't just about SCH; there's a deeper issue at play here.
He needs medical intervention, plain and simple.
The best move is to report him.

I wouldn't dream of diagnosing him myself... I think he was honest when we first started dating—he said we'd face any illness together... but he kept everything from me. Once the outbursts started, I knew our relationship was over. But now that he's turned on the kids, I can't stop thinking about his words and their faces. Honestly, I'm terrified of what else he might do out of sheer ignorance. If I posted this in the wrong place, maybe you can tell me where this actually belongs.
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#4288 ·
Michelle Evans said:When dealing with acute psychosis, three pink pills and two green ones just aren't going to cut it if you want someone back on track. It's also a bit foolish to play doctor...

Your sense of humor is truly brilliant... 😍

(If I may weigh in for a moment... Just a little something to brighten the mood...)

I mean, what exactly was supposed to be funny about what you just posted?
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#4289 ·
Michelle Evans said:When dealing with acute psychosis, three pink pills and two green ones just aren't going to cut it if you want someone back on track. It's also a bit foolish to play doctor...

Your sense of humor is truly brilliant... 😍

(If I may weigh in for a moment... Just a little something to brighten the mood...)

Honestly, I think both you and Taylor Swift are missing the mark on this one—if a person is genuinely struggling through an acute psychotic episode, some medication wouldn't hurt at all; they can deal with the long-term therapy once they've actually made it into the hospital.
Eric Gray2 Eric Gray2 Regular
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#4290 ·
Larry Lewis said:I mean, what exactly was supposed to be funny about what you just posted?

Just because someone tries to be humorous doesn't mean it actually lands 😉
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#4291 ·
Eric Gray2 said:Just because someone tries to be humorous doesn't mean it actually lands 😉

And frankly, those who think they’re the smartest people in the room are usually just the biggest fools—myself included, I suppose... 😉

Look, I get it—everything is subjective—but having spent some time observing the specific brand of humor you all employ here, I’ve realized it’s genuinely hilarious in a way that's almost infuriating.

God, even two of the moderators have taken an interest in me—and while I’m fully aware that I’m quite handsome and sharp-witted, this is getting a bit much... 🤣
Eric Gray2 Eric Gray2 Regular
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#4292 ·
Larry Lewis said:And frankly, those who think they’re the smartest people in the room are usually just the biggest fools—myself included, I suppose... 😉

Look, I get it—everything is subjective—but having spent some time observing the specific brand of humor you all employ here, I’ve realized it’s genuinely hilarious in a way that's almost infuriating.

God, even two of the moderators have taken an interest in me—and while I’m fully aware that I’m quite handsome and sharp-witted, this is getting a bit much... 🤣

What? 🤔 🤣
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#4293 ·
Eric Gray2 said:What? 🤔 🤣

Oh, so you actually bother to think, too? How absolutely revolutionary.☕
Eric Gray2 Eric Gray2 Regular
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#4294 ·
🤣

That's it—I am officially done reading this. Honestly, I'm out. I'm leaving right now—just consider me gone... 😳
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#4295 ·
Eric Gray2 said:🤣

That's it—I am officially done reading this. Honestly, I'm out. I'm leaving right now—just consider me gone... 😳

😢
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
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#4296 ·
Larry Lewis said:I mean, what exactly was supposed to be funny about what you just posted?

There really isn't anything funny about it... 🤷

I was just listing my goals and how I see myself improving. I honestly meant it as a compliment. Just a general one...
(Having iPads at a wedding is a great touch. 🙏 )

I promise, I won't do it again. 😳
I'm off to go cause trouble somewhere else.
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#4297 ·
Michelle Evans said:There really isn't anything funny about it... 🤷

I was just listing my goals and how I see myself improving. I honestly meant it as a compliment. Just a general one...
(Having iPads at a wedding is a great touch. 🙏 )

I promise, I won't do it again. 😳
I'm off to go cause trouble somewhere else.

Then you turn around and dismiss me when I’m actually being serious, telling me I have a "good sense of humor" and that I should just take it as a joke.

Well, thanks for the clarification. And hey, let me return the favor—compliments to you for using actual, human language for once. And sorry if I’m being a bit defensive—I’ve been on this planet for thirty-five years now, so I suppose I've earned the right to be a little prickly.

Peace Corps
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
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#4298 ·
Larry Lewis said:Honestly, I think both you and Taylor Swift are missing the mark on this one—if a person is genuinely struggling through an acute psychotic episode, some medication wouldn't hurt at all; they can deal with the long-term therapy once they've actually made it into the hospital.

By the time those pills even kick in, the paramedics will have shown up and hauled him off to the ER five times over...
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
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#4299 ·
Larry Lewis said:Then you turn around and dismiss me when I’m actually being serious, telling me I have a "good sense of humor" and that I should just take it as a joke.

Well, thanks for the clarification. And hey, let me return the favor—compliments to you for using actual, human language for once. And sorry if I’m being a bit defensive—I’ve been on this planet for thirty-five years now, so I suppose I've earned the right to be a little prickly.

Peace Corps

Peace Corps, yeah, I see how it could be taken that way now.
So, no, I truly meant what I said...

Anyway, I’m actually heading off to mess around with some other files now—deleting and filing things away. Or maybe I'll just stare at the moon. Or something else equally productive... 😁
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#4300 ·
Michelle Evans said:By the time those pills even kick in, the paramedics will have shown up and hauled him off to the ER five times over...

Listen, I get it—really, I do—but back when I was flying solo and completely off my meds, I once split a 5mg Xanax into quarters during one of those deep, dark psychotic episodes. And honestly? That tiny little quarter was enough to take the edge off immediately. It was palpable.

So, what I’m saying is, if things are hitting rock bottom and you need an ambulance, any psychiatric med is going to provide some level of relief.

EDIT: I remember one time, right at the absolute peak of a breakdown, I called 911 to come get me. Can you believe it? I actually told them my full diagnosis and everything—they almost didn't laugh, though God knows they wanted to—and then I ended up having to call an Uber just to get myself to the psych ward at Bellevue... you truly cannot make this stuff up.

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