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Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#5001 ·
Laura Castillo6 said:When we’re talking about altered states of consciousness—take an epileptic seizure, for instance, or a psychotic break—you can't really just talk someone through it. It’s not like a normal conversation helps when the person experiencing it has lost their grip on themselves or can't even process what reality is anymore. In those moments, I feel like consciousness itself is being fundamentally shifted or distorted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness

An altered state can be anything from a coma to being high or drunk, though with alcohol or drugs, it’s usually tied directly to how much you’ve taken. You could get pretty buzzed at a bar and still have a pretty good idea of where you are. But when someone is mid-psychosis or having a seizure, trying to convince them that psychotherapy will fix things is pretty much impossible until they're back on level ground with reality.

THC has actually been shown to be incredibly effective for treating seizures or IH episodes. http://www.thedoctorstv.com/articles...treat-seizures

Even Ecstasy MDMA has shown success in treating PTSD; in clinical settings, very short-term use can lead to full, lasting remission. http://www.thedoctorstv.com/articles...erapy-for-ptsd

Of course, this isn't news to anyone who's been paying attention for the last 30 years or so. The real issue is that because marijuana and Ecstasy MDMA are often abused for recreational purposes, and because Big Pharma loves its competition, these highly effective medical treatments stay out of reach for most people.

My old man actually gave me the green light to dip into his stash of cancer medication here and there—just a little bit here, a little bit there—though I can't say I feel particularly moral about it. It’s one of those things that stays tucked away in the back of your mind, isn't it? That nagging sense of guilt that follows you around like a bad smell, even when you think you've gotten away with it. Not that he seems to mind, or perhaps he just doesn't care anymore—it's hard to tell with him lately—but still, it feels a bit heavy. Life is strange like that, full of these small, quiet transgressions that don't seem to matter much in the grand scheme of things, yet they weigh on you nonetheless.
I took two drops yesterday—and then another two today. To be clear, we’re talking about THC oil—but... well, there's more to the story than just the dosage.
Look, there are plenty of different grades out there—some are decent, some are absolute garbage—but this right here? This is the gold standard. It’s top-tier stuff. I mean, we’re talking about a price tag of $2,600 for just 40ml... which, let’s be honest, is enough to make anyone wince—but when you want the best of the best, you pay the premium.
He mentioned he’s going to pick up some more of that—yeah, the THC—quite soon. Honestly, when he first started the therapy, the side effects were hitting him like a freight train... just absolutely brutal.
Well, I suppose I was the one who taught him how to handle it—though, looking back, I can't say if that was a stroke of brilliance or just my own stubbornness getting the better of me. It’s funny, really—how we think we're passing down wisdom when we're mostly just passing on our own complicated habits.

We were actually discussing it while driving—I brought it up during the commute—and I made sure he knew that I've been a regular smoker for about four and a half years now.
Well, I told them—I really did—that it’s worth a shot. Honestly, why not? Sometimes you just have to take the leap and see where the chips fall.

It’s that sensation—that profound, bone-deep sense of total relaxation washing over both the mind and the body—without that jarring, overwhelming "hit" that just knocks you sideways. It's subtle, really... almost meditative, if you can call it that. Unlike those other substances that just smash your system against the wall, this feels more like a slow, steady descent into calm. I remember once, back when I was living in Chicago, sitting in a quiet corner of a library—it was one of those old, dusty places where the air feels heavy with history—and experiencing something similar; just a quiet, peaceful settling of the soul. It doesn't wreck you; it just lets you *be*.
Honestly, when you finally light up some THC... it’s just pure, unadulterated stillness. You just sit there, let the mind settle, let the body go limp—it's almost meditative. None of that relentless, intrusive racing thoughts bullshit. No psychosis, no spiraling, nothing. Once the edge is taken off, the depression just... evaporates. It's the only thing that actually works.
I’m sitting here at a local Starbucks—one of those places where everyone seems to be pretending to work while actually just staring blankly at their laptops—trying to squeeze this out between sips of overpriced caffeine.

Look, if I’m going to take some kind of banned substance—and believe me, I know how much people love to judge—then fine, let them judge. But let’s get one thing straight: this isn't recreation. This is medicine! It is quite literally my lifeline.

Honestly—since he started taking it—he’s been a completely different person. He used to be so incredibly rigid, almost painfully tense in everything he did—you know how some people just carry the weight of the world in their shoulders? Well, he was like that. But now? He’s much more relaxed, calmer, and actually quite gentle. It's quite a transformation, really.
jadeharbor81 jadeharbor81 Member
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#5002 ·
Larry Lewis said:My old man actually gave me the green light to dip into his stash of cancer medication here and there—just a little bit here, a little bit there—though I can't say I feel particularly moral about it. It’s one of those things that stays tucked away in the back of your mind, isn't it? That nagging sense of guilt that follows you around like a bad smell, even when you think you've gotten away with it. Not that he seems to mind, or perhaps he just doesn't care anymore—it's hard to tell with him lately—but still, it feels a bit heavy. Life is strange like that, full of these small, quiet transgressions that don't seem to matter much in the grand scheme of things, yet they weigh on you nonetheless.
I took two drops yesterday—and then another two today. To be clear, we’re talking about THC oil—but... well, there's more to the story than just the dosage.
Look, there are plenty of different grades out there—some are decent, some are absolute garbage—but this right here? This is the gold standard. It’s top-tier stuff. I mean, we’re talking about a price tag of $2,600 for just 40ml... which, let’s be honest, is enough to make anyone wince—but when you want the best of the best, you pay the premium.
He mentioned he’s going to pick up some more of that—yeah, the THC—quite soon. Honestly, when he first started the therapy, the side effects were hitting him like a freight train... just absolutely brutal.
Well, I suppose I was the one who taught him how to handle it—though, looking back, I can't say if that was a stroke of brilliance or just my own stubbornness getting the better of me. It’s funny, really—how we think we're passing down wisdom when we're mostly just passing on our own complicated habits.

We were actually discussing it while driving—I brought it up during the commute—and I made sure he knew that I've been a regular smoker for about four and a half years now.
Well, I told them—I really did—that it’s worth a shot. Honestly, why not? Sometimes you just have to take the leap and see where the chips fall.

It’s that sensation—that profound, bone-deep sense of total relaxation washing over both the mind and the body—without that jarring, overwhelming "hit" that just knocks you sideways. It's subtle, really... almost meditative, if you can call it that. Unlike those other substances that just smash your system against the wall, this feels more like a slow, steady descent into calm. I remember once, back when I was living in Chicago, sitting in a quiet corner of a library—it was one of those old, dusty places where the air feels heavy with history—and experiencing something similar; just a quiet, peaceful settling of the soul. It doesn't wreck you; it just lets you *be*.
Honestly, when you finally light up some THC... it’s just pure, unadulterated stillness. You just sit there, let the mind settle, let the body go limp—it's almost meditative. None of that relentless, intrusive racing thoughts bullshit. No psychosis, no spiraling, nothing. Once the edge is taken off, the depression just... evaporates. It's the only thing that actually works.
I’m sitting here at a local Starbucks—one of those places where everyone seems to be pretending to work while actually just staring blankly at their laptops—trying to squeeze this out between sips of overpriced caffeine.

Look, if I’m going to take some kind of banned substance—and believe me, I know how much people love to judge—then fine, let them judge. But let’s get one thing straight: this isn't recreation. This is medicine! It is quite literally my lifeline.

Honestly—since he started taking it—he’s been a completely different person. He used to be so incredibly rigid, almost painfully tense in everything he did—you know how some people just carry the weight of the world in their shoulders? Well, he was like that. But now? He’s much more relaxed, calmer, and actually quite gentle. It's quite a transformation, really.

I'm with you—it's medicine. Hopefully, they fully legalize everything in the near future...
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
626 messages
joined Sep 2015
#5003 ·
placidheron7 said:Nobody could ever talk me into believing I was sick during my first long-lasting psychotic episode. But once that moment hits—that first time you actually think to yourself, "Wait, maybe I *am* actually sick"—that’s when everything changes. Since then, I’ve been constantly practicing talking back to my own brain, trying to convince the rational side of me to stay in control. Honestly, once you have that realization, I truly believe it's possible to dial this illness way down and manage it incredibly well. If you're actually putting in the work on yourself, if you've got someone in your corner who will snap you out of it when you start spiraling, and if you can just walk away from the booze, the THC, and all that other junk... it works. Some people just need a reality check from a friend to ignore the irrational bullshit, some need a psychologist, and others need a heavy-duty psychotherapist to keep them on track. But you *can* handle this without meds if you get the right support and guidance. Life is total crap if you decide to look at it that way...
Chaos

catch ya tomorrow
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
819 messages
joined Dec 2010
#5004 ·
jadeharbor81 said:I'm with you—it's medicine. Hopefully, they fully legalize everything in the near future...

The wheels are finally starting to turn.
Robin Lopez2 Robin Lopez2 Active Member
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joined Mar 2012
#5005 ·
placidheron7 said:Nobody could ever talk me into believing I was sick during my first long-lasting psychotic episode. But once that moment hits—that first time you actually think to yourself, "Wait, maybe I *am* actually sick"—that’s when everything changes. Since then, I’ve been constantly practicing talking back to my own brain, trying to convince the rational side of me to stay in control. Honestly, once you have that realization, I truly believe it's possible to dial this illness way down and manage it incredibly well. If you're actually putting in the work on yourself, if you've got someone in your corner who will snap you out of it when you start spiraling, and if you can just walk away from the booze, the THC, and all that other junk... it works. Some people just need a reality check from a friend to ignore the irrational bullshit, some need a psychologist, and others need a heavy-duty psychotherapist to keep them on track. But you *can* handle this without meds if you get the right support and guidance. Life is total crap if you decide to look at it that way...
Chaos

Unless we're talking about psychosis, then maybe—otherwise, there's no chance at all.

When I asked my psychiatrist how long I'd be on these pills, he just told me: "Be grateful that good medications actually exist!" So, looks like I'll be taking antipsychotics until the day I die.
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
732 messages
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#5006 ·
Robin Lopez2 said:Unless we're talking about psychosis, then maybe—otherwise, there's no chance at all.

When I asked my psychiatrist how long I'd be on these pills, he just told me: "Be grateful that good medications actually exist!" So, looks like I'll be taking antipsychotics until the day I die.

I guess I'll be on them for life too, along with plenty of others in this group—you're certainly not alone in this.

If someone has dealt with multiple psychotic episodes and isn't looking at a full recovery, staying on medication indefinitely is just the reality we live in. Trying to quit them and still function like a normal person feels more like science fiction than actual medicine.

Maybe one day they'll stumble upon a miracle cure for schizophrenia, or perhaps we'll all just pack up and move to another planet together. That's about as much hope as I have.
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
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#5007 ·
Honestly, guys, I’ve been in a total fog the last couple of days.

I pulled two back-to-back night shifts over the weekend, and I just can't seem to shake this exhaustion.

The anxiety and depression are hitting pretty hard right now; I have zero desire to socialize, I'm just retreating into my own shell, and I can't find the motivation to do anything at all. Even at work, I haven't been my usual friendly self like everyone else, though I'm still making sure my tasks get done properly.

I'm going to try to force myself to tackle at least the absolute essentials, but man, it's a real struggle..

Larry Lewis, any chance you could share a little bit of that oil? Just a tiny bit, please 🙂
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
819 messages
joined Dec 2010
#5008 ·
Harold Anderson3 said:Honestly, guys, I’ve been in a total fog the last couple of days.

I pulled two back-to-back night shifts over the weekend, and I just can't seem to shake this exhaustion.

The anxiety and depression are hitting pretty hard right now; I have zero desire to socialize, I'm just retreating into my own shell, and I can't find the motivation to do anything at all. Even at work, I haven't been my usual friendly self like everyone else, though I'm still making sure my tasks get done properly.

I'm going to try to force myself to tackle at least the absolute essentials, but man, it's a real struggle..

Larry Lewis, any chance you could share a little bit of that oil? Just a tiny bit, please 🙂

Those night shifts are absolutely brutal.

It’s a strange feeling when you find yourself "out of the loop"—not that I mean it in a personal way or anything, don't take it like that.
personally.

Anyway, you should swing by sometime for a couple of shots of some bourbon I picked up recently—we can add a drop of oil to it too.
🙂
Brian Young5 Brian Young5 Member
28 messages
joined Oct 2015
#5009 ·
Larry Lewis said:Those night shifts are absolutely brutal.

It’s a strange feeling when you find yourself "out of the loop"—not that I mean it in a personal way or anything, don't take it like that.
personally.

Anyway, you should swing by sometime for a couple of shots of some bourbon I picked up recently—we can add a drop of oil to it too.
🙂

Sorry for crashing this private conversation, but I have to ask: is it actually safe to drink alcohol while you're on regular antipsychotic meds? Especially hard liquor. 😲I’m not judging, I’m just asking out of curiosity. As someone who’s gone sober and is currently on Seroquel, I keep having these dreams where I’m blissfully high on THC. It’s not like those paranoid trips, either—it’s pure euphoria. Maybe it’s just nostalgia, or some deep-seated craving to finally shut off the noise and get back to some kind of paradise. 🙂).

And if that’s actually the case, what kind of dosage are we talking about?

Is smoking weed or hash allowed in public housing complexes?
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
732 messages
joined May 2023
#5010 ·
Brian Young5 said:Sorry for crashing this private conversation, but I have to ask: is it actually safe to drink alcohol while you're on regular antipsychotic meds? Especially hard liquor. 😲I’m not judging, I’m just asking out of curiosity. As someone who’s gone sober and is currently on Seroquel, I keep having these dreams where I’m blissfully high on THC. It’s not like those paranoid trips, either—it’s pure euphoria. Maybe it’s just nostalgia, or some deep-seated craving to finally shut off the noise and get back to some kind of paradise. 🙂).

And if that’s actually the case, what kind of dosage are we talking about?

Is smoking weed or hash allowed in public housing complexes?

It’s a no-go! Plenty of people on this thread have mentioned that before. I actually know a guy struggling with psychosis who had a full relapse simply because he drank too much, despite being strictly consistent with his medication.
These are pretty much the only medications where you absolutely cannot mix them with alcohol, mainly because both the meds and the booze hit your central nervous system, and when they interact, they act like a whole different kind of drug: 😲 and don't even get me started on marijuana ☕
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#5011 ·
Harold Anderson3 said:It’s a no-go! Plenty of people on this thread have mentioned that before. I actually know a guy struggling with psychosis who had a full relapse simply because he drank too much, despite being strictly consistent with his medication.
These are pretty much the only medications where you absolutely cannot mix them with alcohol, mainly because both the meds and the booze hit your central nervous system, and when they interact, they act like a whole different kind of drug: 😲 and don't even get me started on marijuana ☕

I mean, looking at the Zypresica label, it just says it makes you drowsy if you drink.
It doesn't explicitly say "do not consume" anywhere else.

but man, you definitely shouldn't be hitting the bar if you're on antidepressants.
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
732 messages
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#5012 ·
David Vaughn75 said:I mean, looking at the Zypresica label, it just says it makes you drowsy if you drink.
It doesn't explicitly say "do not consume" anywhere else.

but man, you definitely shouldn't be hitting the bar if you're on antidepressants.

To be honest, Zypresica makes me feel drowsy even without any alcohol involved.

I'm pretty sure I saw somewhere in the Zypresica paperwork that it affects the central nervous system—basically the brain—which is why mixing it with booze is such a bad idea.

It’s pretty much the same deal with most psychiatric medications.

Alcohol is detrimental regardless, though I don't personally miss it, and I don't regret having to cut back on drinking given my health issues and the meds I'm on. It's especially tough for anyone dealing with schizophrenia.

I mean, what's the point of risking your health just for a little fun? Even after just a small glass of red wine, I start getting these headaches, and I can't tell if that's because of the medication, because I rarely drink anymore and my tolerance is gone, or honestly, probably both.

Not to brag or anything, but back in high school, I was drinking every single Saturday, not to mention all those school trips and birthday parties. But, well, those were different times altogether...
Nicole Barrett76 Nicole Barrett76 Regular
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joined Sep 2009
#5013 ·
Might you consider attempting to obtain Zypresica and Akineton?
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
732 messages
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#5014 ·
Nicole Barrett76 said:Might you consider attempting to obtain Zypresica and Akineton?

Are you under the impression that it would give you some kind of high or something similar?

I’m not quite sure if you've misunderstood what Akineton is actually for, but it's typically prescribed to help manage those muscle spasms that can happen when someone is taking certain antipsychotics. Usually, we're talking about just one or two tablets.

That being said, there are always a few "geniuses" in this community who decide to swallow or snort ten or twenty pills at once just to chase an euphoric feeling. Honestly, that's just a textbook case of misusing psychotropic drugs.😁
Nicole Barrett76 Nicole Barrett76 Regular
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#5015 ·
Harold Anderson3 said:Are you under the impression that it would give you some kind of high or something similar?

I’m not quite sure if you've misunderstood what Akineton is actually for, but it's typically prescribed to help manage those muscle spasms that can happen when someone is taking certain antipsychotics. Usually, we're talking about just one or two tablets.

That being said, there are always a few "geniuses" in this community who decide to swallow or snort ten or twenty pills at once just to chase an euphoric feeling. Honestly, that's just a textbook case of misusing psychotropic drugs.😁

I had no idea one needed to snort 20 or 30 of them; I was under the impression that 5 or 6 would suffice.
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
732 messages
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#5016 ·
Nicole Barrett76 said:I had no idea one needed to snort 20 or 30 of them; I was under the impression that 5 or 6 would suffice.

To be perfectly honest, I’ve never actually gone down that road myself, so I wouldn't be the best person to tell you what kind of dose works best. I have seen what other people tend to do, though, so maybe someone with a bit more experience can chime in...
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
819 messages
joined Dec 2010
#5017 ·
Harold Anderson3 said:Are you under the impression that it would give you some kind of high or something similar?

I’m not quite sure if you've misunderstood what Akineton is actually for, but it's typically prescribed to help manage those muscle spasms that can happen when someone is taking certain antipsychotics. Usually, we're talking about just one or two tablets.

That being said, there are always a few "geniuses" in this community who decide to swallow or snort ten or twenty pills at once just to chase an euphoric feeling. Honestly, that's just a textbook case of misusing psychotropic drugs.😁

That girl who ended up in bed with you the very same night she
left her late boyfriend behind... well, she was absolutely wasted on pills, both snorted and swallowed, but
she did mention to me that you weren't exactly acting like much of a "genius" yourself.🙂
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
626 messages
joined Sep 2015
#5018 ·
Harold Anderson3 said:To be honest, Zypresica makes me feel drowsy even without any alcohol involved.

I'm pretty sure I saw somewhere in the Zypresica paperwork that it affects the central nervous system—basically the brain—which is why mixing it with booze is such a bad idea.

It’s pretty much the same deal with most psychiatric medications.

Alcohol is detrimental regardless, though I don't personally miss it, and I don't regret having to cut back on drinking given my health issues and the meds I'm on. It's especially tough for anyone dealing with schizophrenia.

I mean, what's the point of risking your health just for a little fun? Even after just a small glass of red wine, I start getting these headaches, and I can't tell if that's because of the medication, because I rarely drink anymore and my tolerance is gone, or honestly, probably both.

Not to brag or anything, but back in high school, I was drinking every single Saturday, not to mention all those school trips and birthday parties. But, well, those were different times altogether...

Well, I just checked, and just like you said, the Zyprexa warnings say one thing, but the Oleanz warnings say what I was talking about.
One of my psychiatrists actually told me straight up that having two beers wouldn't kill me.

The real kicker is that alcohol just weakens the whole effect of antipsychotics, so getting wasted is definitely a bad move.
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
732 messages
joined May 2023
#5019 ·
Larry Lewis said:That girl who ended up in bed with you the very same night she
left her late boyfriend behind... well, she was absolutely wasted on pills, both snorted and swallowed, but
she did mention to me that you weren't exactly acting like much of a "genius" yourself.🙂

And I can't help but wonder what was going through her head when she climbed into bed next to me.😛

I didn't exactly argue, though it’s hard to be certain given that she was completely hammered and totally out of it. ☕

David Vaughn75 said:Well, I just checked, and just like you said, the Zyprexa warnings say one thing, but the Oleanz warnings say what I was talking about.
One of my psychiatrists actually told me straight up that having two beers wouldn't kill me.

The real kicker is that alcohol just weakens the whole effect of antipsychotics, so getting wasted is definitely a bad move.

Honestly, it all seems to be incredibly individual. For some people, even a tiny amount causes problems, while others might handle a bit more without much trouble.

Some folks are even allergic to alcohol, so they feel sick even if they aren't drinking much AP.

Every now and then, I might have a little something—maybe a glass of beer or some white wine—but I never let myself get drunk.
Richard White8 Richard White8 Active Member
50 messages
joined Oct 2015
#5020 ·
Currently on Zeldox 40 mg twice daily, 2 mg Moditen, 50 mg Fevarin, a bit of Prazosin 25 mg at night to sleep, plus Xanax as needed.

I was also prescribed Akineton because the Moditen is causing me muscle stiffness. It’s working quite nicely right now—really helps relax the muscles, haha...

However, I am still dealing with auditory hallucinations. How much longer can this persist even while on medication?
I've been treating psychosis for only two months, though I've been hearing voices and experiencing a few delusions for about four years now. Diagnosis is F23.2—an acute psychotic disorder, similar to schizophrenia.

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