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The Monuments Men (2014)

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Participants Richard Wilson4driftingseal11placidwolf32nimblemason3neonfalcon99Sean Bailey75Karen Richardson3feralpilot0Lisa Chase3Patrick MartinKeith Jones36Sean Johnson40Jonathan Perez88Susan HernandezRachel Ortiz33Maria Ruizsilvertiger11Arthur Diaz3Brandon Fox2Michael Phillips8Laura Chase5Nicole Foster71Dennis Davis5Jamie Turner80
Susan Hernandez Susan Hernandez Active Member
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joined Dec 2011
#21 ·
Is it worth watching just for Bill Murray?
Rachel Ortiz33 Rachel Ortiz33 Active Member
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joined Jul 2012
#22 ·
Benjamin Ruiz60 said:Is it worth catching just for Bill Murray?

Nah, honestly, he’s more like a third or fourth tier guy. For the first hour, he’s basically just background noise.

The whole movie's paced all wrong. It starts with this quick montage of George rounding up the crew, then boom—next thing you know, they're right in the middle of the war acting like lifelong besties. They're cracking jokes and everything, but we haven't learned a single thing about them. You just don't care about any of them from the jump.

So many movies are all bright colors and happy tunes, then BAM—total spoilers hit you out of nowhere. It's like walking into a sunny Starbucks only to realize they ran out of caffeine. Halfway through, everything just turns dark and depressing. It’s not even because the deaths hit hard—it's just that you don't actually care who's kicking the bucket since you haven't even met them yet.

Wait, is someone actually trying to link Heat to this movie? lol 😂
Maria Ruiz Maria Ruiz Newcomer
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joined Oct 2005
#23 ·
I honestly don't get why everyone is tearing this movie to shreds. Personally, I found it really engaging and actually quite good. I loved the subject matter and how the whole plot unfolded. While it might not be the kind of film where you're constantly weeping over the characters, saying the story feels disjointed just isn't true at all.

After the credits rolled, I did some digging online, and if anything, it made me appreciate the film even more because people say they portrayed the history pretty accurately.

Maybe people were just expecting a heavy-hitting, gritty war drama like Valkyrie or something along those lines.

If you haven't seen it yet, I definitely recommend ☕
silvertiger11 silvertiger11 Active Member
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joined Jul 2016
#24 ·
It’s an interesting concept, but honestly, it could have been so much better.
I get the feeling they hacked away at way too much footage, leaving us with this disjointed mess of a movie. It feels like they decided to change direction entirely halfway through production.

I was really hoping for something more along the lines of Saving Private Ryan. Now, that would have been killer.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 VeteranOP
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joined Sep 2009
#25 ·
silvertiger11 said:It’s interesting, sure, but honestly? It could’ve been way better.
Feels like they chopped half the footage on the floor and left us with this total mess. Like they just decided to change the whole vibe halfway through production.

I was hoping for something more along the lines of Rescue Soldier. That would've been killer.

I wasn't looking for Ryan, I was expecting Ocean's Eleven set in WWII 🤷
Arthur Diaz3 Arthur Diaz3 Newcomer
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joined May 2014
#26 ·
I wasn't exactly expecting much from this one... had some hope, sure, but I didn't go in with high expectations..
It’s okay, but nothing special.
5.5/10
Brandon Fox2 Brandon Fox2 Member
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joined Sep 2008
#27 ·
I'm not really a huge fan of Clooney, but I might give it a shot if Matt Damon and Jamie Foxx are in it. The subtitles just dropped, so I think I'll go ahead and watch it now!
Michael Phillips8 Michael Phillips8 Newcomer
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#28 ·
On paper, this should have been an Oscar contender: you had a stellar cast and a premise with massive potential. In reality, though, I guess it was one of the most tedious movies I've sat through in years. The direction felt off. As others have noted, the character development just isn't there, and the dialogue feels incredibly repetitive. It was a total disappointment.
Laura Chase5 Laura Chase5 Member
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joined Oct 2014
#29 ·
I watched it at some point... you're really asking me to dig through my brain for something specific? I can't tell you if there was a certain scene or something that actually stuck with me... honestly, I haven't got a clue.
Nicole Foster71 Nicole Foster71 Member
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#30 ·
Michael Phillips8 said:On paper, this was an Oscar-worthy contender—you had a powerhouse cast and a premise with massive potential. In reality, though? It’s easily one of the most tedious films I've sat through in years. The direction was just... abysmal. As others have pointed out, there is zero character depth here, and the dialogue is painfully monotonous. A total letdown.

I couldn't agree more. Honestly, I was sitting here thinking the exact same thing—it was a real struggle to even finish it.
Brandon Fox2 Brandon Fox2 Member
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joined Sep 2008
#31 ·
I guess the movie feels a bit light, almost like something you'd read as a kid. I wouldn't say it's terrible, but it’s just very easygoing—almost as if the cast and crew were just relaxing with this one between their more intense projects.
Dennis Davis5 Dennis Davis5 Active Member
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joined Nov 2015
#32 ·
This movie really captures what the Monuments Men were actually up against during WWII. It stays grounded instead of relying on those over-the-top action tropes, like one guy taking down fifty Germans at once or losing entire sets of gear to the Russians. I think some deeper character development and a better look at the German side could have added more drama and lengthened the runtime, but even as it stands, it's a solid watch. 8/10
Jamie Turner80 Jamie Turner80 Member
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joined Jul 2009
#33 ·
It is painfully obvious that The Monuments Man was engineered specifically for award season momentum. Then, predictably, the usual bullshit alarms started going off. The trailers were met with widespread derision, and the premiere was pushed from Christmas to February under the convenient guise of "post-production needs." When the film finally hit theaters, the critical reception was tepid—which, for a major studio production, is a definitive signal of mediocrity. The reviews might have been even harsher had it not featured Clooney, but I see no reason to go easy on him. It turns out there is very little actual history here, aside from the fact that World War II actually happened and that a unit within the U.S. military existed to recover stolen art.
The fundamental issue, however, lies in the film's tone. Clooney seemed entirely unsure of what he wanted The Monuments Men to be; at times, it functions as an inspiring (if not somewhat pathetic) and politically correct war melodrama—where a woman is essentially replaced by land and cultural heritage—while at other moments, it attempts to reach the heights of a classic lighthearted war comedy (good grief, the protagonists don't even manage to shoot a single German during their adventures). Occasionally, it tries to mimic a caper in the vein of Ocean's Eleven, and at points, it seems to wish it were Tarantino filming Inglourious Basterds. Perhaps a single film can encompass all these elements, though I highly doubt it; certainly, it cannot attempt them all simultaneously. Had Clooney possessed more courage—had he abandoned this politically correct, occasionally numbing, "ex cathedra" approach in favor of pure comedy—The Monuments Men could have been a mega-cool romp that nobody took seriously. Just a plain, enjoyable movie.
The Monuments Men serves as a textbook example of what happens when an auteur's ambitions far exceed their actual achievements. Because Clooney and Heslov failed to sit down and properly study the material to see what it could truly become, they resort to every possible generic trope and ultimately fail. As a war film, The Monuments Men misses the mark entirely; the war is merely a backdrop, and the characters feel like they were cut from cardboard. As a comedy, it isn't funny enough and lacks pacing, as it is not uncommon for a comedic beat to end dramatically or vice versa. Even as a drama, it doesn't feel nearly sincere enough to move an intelligent viewer. Then again, The Monuments Men isn't absolute garbage; it’s watchable, easy to follow, undemanding, and likely morally upright. And, unfortunately, utterly forgettable.

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Dennis Davis5 Dennis Davis5 Active Member
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#34 ·
This movie is nowhere near award season material. If they were aiming for an Oscar, they completely missed the mark. It’s fine if you just need something to pass the time, but that's about it. If it had been a comedy, it would have been legendary. As it stands, it just gets stuck somewhere in the middle.

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