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I’ve been sitting here staring at the upcoming schedule and the squad list, and I can't help but feel like we are entering a weird, experimental era for our club. It’s not even about the specific players—though, God knows, the chemistry between the academy kids and the new signings has been surprisingly smooth so far—but it’s more about the philosophy of leadership.

We are currently in this strange position where the person holding the clipboard has never actually stepped onto a pitch in a professional capacity. For a lot of the "old guard" fans, I know that’s a hard pill to swallow. There’s this deeply ingrained romanticism in sports culture that says you can’t truly understand the soul of the game unless you’ve felt the grass under your boots and the pressure of a stadium breathing down your neck. We grew up watching these legendary figures who were icons on the field first and coaches second. It felt natural. It felt earned.

But lately, I’ve been questioning if that romanticism is actually holding us back.

I look at the way the game has evolved, and it feels more like a high-speed chess match than the physical grind it used to be. The "eye test" is being replaced by data, spatial geometry, and pattern recognition. If a manager can look at a screen or a tactical board and see a weakness in a defensive line that a former player might miss because they're too focused on "gut feeling" or "grit," isn't that an advantage? I’ve seen so many former greats struggle because they try to coach the game they *played* rather than the game that *is*.

I remember watching a different team a few years back—a squad full of massive personalities and former superstars. On paper, they were unstoppable. But the manager was a former legend who insisted on a rigid, old-school system that didn't account for the speed of modern transitions. They looked like they were playing in slow motion while everyone else was sprinting. They had the "heart," sure, but they lacked the structural adaptability.

On the flip side, there’s a risk here, too. There is a specific kind of "locker room gravity" that comes from a manager who has been in the trenches. When a guy who has won trophies and dealt with the physical toll of a long season walks into a room, the players listen differently. It’s a level of respect that you can’t just simulate with a well-drawn tactical diagram. Can a pure theorist truly command the respect of a 22-year-old superstar who thinks he knows everything because he has a million followers on social media? Or will they eventually see the manager as just a "math teacher" rather than a leader?

I’m cautiously optimistic. I think if we can maintain this balance—integrating the youth and keeping the tactical identity consistent with what we’ve loved in the past—it could work. I don't necessarily need my manager to have been a Ballon d'Or winner, but I do need him to have a way to connect with the human element of the squad. Tactics win games, but culture wins seasons.

If we can hit those deep cup runs and stay relevant in the upper echelons of the league, I’ll be the first to admit I was wrong about the "playing experience" requirement. But if we hit a wall because the squad loses its "edge" or its connection to the manager, it's going to be a very difficult post-mortem to write.

What do you guys think? Does a manager need that "on-field pedigree" to truly lead a modern squad, or are we just clinging to nostalgia?
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lonemason10 said:Look, I’d be worried if my surgeon told me they were going to shape my nose based on some photo or a computer simulation meant to convince me how it'll look... honestly, I’d run for the hills from someone that unprofessional. Believe me, they don't really know what they're doing until they actually get inside your nose—that's when they figure out what works best for you. All I need is for them to sketch something on my nose before the surgery, just as a rough guide...

Computer simulations are just a waste of money.

But you know, lonemason10, I was kind of hoping they'd show me something approximate... since my nose is wide, I have no clue how much he intends to narrow it🤷... plus, I'm terrified he'll lift it too high and I'll end up looking like a cartoon character. Just thinking about the worst-case scenarios: what if he makes me look like Hargrove😲? Or Tina Turner😲?? 😁My mom tried to comfort me, but she just said, "Yeah, that's exactly how it'll look if he shows up with a 0.1% blood alcohol level"😁 All I know is he plans on breaking bones on the side...😲

Jesse Taylor7—regarding local vs. general anesthesia, Tony Bennett told me he prefers local because there's less bleeding🤷, and obviously, because the risks associated with general anesthesia are higher.
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Jesse Taylor7, I think it’s possible, but you’re probably better off asking a pro, like at a local pharmacy...

Has anyone else gone to Tončić for nose surgery besides Gie???
Mine looks amazing, but I read online that he likes to wing it and now he’s giving me attitude. I went in for a consultation, but he basically told me he doesn't know exactly how the nose will look afterward because he just "sees it" during the procedure, like he has some kind of internal computer. Seriously? I just wanted a rough idea!!! He just said: it’ll look better😁. It’s so frustrating, I wish he would have shown me a digital mockup or even just sketched something out!!!
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Ashley Young34 said:Honestly, I’m at a total loss here. I don't even know what to do anymore...🤷

I totally get where you're coming from. Siniša Glumičić really knows his way around a nose job, and Toncic is solid too—he’s meticulous and a bit of a perfectionist about everything, which honestly works in favor of a plastic surgeon. Klapan is a serious ENT, though I don't personally know anyone who went to him for aesthetics; I've only heard stories about functional stuff... As for Ostojić, hmm... I actually dig his vibe. He seems pretty laid back, but those noses he does? A bit too "in your face" for my taste. I mean, maybe that look suits certain faces, but not mine...
I've definitely missed quite a few, but these are probably the most famous ones from the city. Still, damn... it seems like there's some kind of negative commentary following every single one of them...😲

I think I might be overthinking this way too much...🙄I really should have just walked away and gotten it over with ages ago... but instead, I’m just sitting here, overanalyzing everything and trying to make sense of it all... maybe...🤷
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redridge15 said:You clearly didn't read the whole thing. I wrote this for the girls who aren't happy with their results, not for myself.

I already mentioned up top that I’m happy with mine—actually, after a month and a half, I’m even happier. It’s like I was born with this look... 😍😍😍

Don't stress out, Mia! You're going to be fine! 👍

Yeah, I know. I saw your nose in the photo and it's seriously adorable, which is why I was confused by you saying: "God, I'd shoot them all!" . I thought maybe something had gone wrong after the fact, but okay, I get what you meant. Honestly, it's just a total lottery—some people end up super happy, while others end up way worse off than they started...🤷
Anyway, can you actually negotiate with the surgeon to get some kind of sedative? I don't want to be totally knocked out, but I definitely don't want to hear the sound of stitches being sewn... even if I am a little groggy...🙂
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Well, here I am again, still stuck with this "old nose"...😁

cosmicjackal10 said:Does anyone have experience with Dr. Klapan at the Klapan clinic in Chicago?
It’s a relatively new clinic, been open for about a year now.

Klapan😉, not Kaplan. I went to him for a consultation, and my impression is that he’s extremely serious—he doesn't like taking risks and isn't into making drastic changes to a nose. He’s definitely not a fan of those "extreme makeover" styles; he prefers more natural, straight profiles. He does a computer simulation that costs $500😲, and honestly, he left a good impression on me personally. However, he’s pretty pricey. What actually turned me off—and I was almost ready to book the surgery—was that he wouldn't give me a straight price. He made up some excuse about telling me next time, but what "next time"? I haven't bothered showing up since...🤷

redridge15 said:Ladies, this is just terrifying! You really need a massive amount of luck when it comes to cosmetic surgery these days. This thread mentions plenty of surgeons, but so far, I haven't seen a single glowing recommendation. It seems like if someone praises a surgeon, someone else immediately jumps in to criticize them (or worse). So what are we supposed to conclude? That there are no reliable surgeons out there? Every single one of them seems to have messed something up for someone at some point.

It's awful. Honestly, I’d want to line them all up and shoot them!!

Actually, no... I’d just line them all up and make them perform nose surgeries on me one by one, all under local anesthesia... 🤣 maybe then they'd finally learn how to do their jobs properly!

redridge15, wait, weren't you seeing Toncic? I got the feeling you were happy with him. I haven't heard anything bad about his work yet (unless I missed it😕)
I was thinking about going to him; apparently, he's incredibly meticulous and pays attention to every tiny detail. Plus, I really liked how he handled gii's nose.

As for my own nose, I feel like I'm writing this for the hundredth time—I just want to narrow it. It's too wide. I don't want someone to overdo it and squeeze it too much, just enough to make it look better...😍
Hopefully, I won't end up sounding like I'm talking through a blocked nose after the procedure, right?
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Question for the ladies who've had rhinoplasty—I’m being serious here, so please don't come for me over a question...🙂
Do you sound normal now, or is everything still coming out through your nose? Like, Severina definitely sounds nasal, and even that blonde girl from the Big Brother house...

No hard feelings?🙂 If you say so, then maybe I'll just start talking through my nose too, why not...😁
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That nose is super!!!😍 It looks totally natural from the front and even from the profile! I’d definitely go for one like that!!!
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Amanda Wilson45 said:I honestly have no clue what’s going to happen now... I already uploaded the photos to the host before, and everything went fine... I really don't get what the issue is... 😢

It’s obvious, and honestly, it’s perfect...😍😍Charles Cox👍Honestly, I think I might just go see your surgeon instead...

redridge15 said:I haven't been there yet—not for another four days...
I was using compresses back then too...
It’s still a bit swollen, even if you can't really tell...
frozenangler36 is asking about Arnica pellets. Does anyone actually know anything about those...

redridge15, your best bet is to just head to a CVS or Walgreens and ask for some arnica. If they don't have that specific thing, they'll definitely point you toward something else to get that swelling down fast. At least, based on the photo, your nose looks super...😉

I'm 20 now, and I’m thinking about finally getting surgery next year—specifically to fix my deviated septum. Does anyone know what the damage looks like in terms of cost (USD)? Also, what's the actual process like for the surgery and recovery? Is it still basically the same as it used to be...
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Prices are sitting somewhere between $1,100 and $2,200. Honestly, I think you could probably get that deviation sorted through insurance if you play your cards right. As for the surgery itself and what the recovery looks like, the girls have already covered that extensively in other threads... just do a little digging...☕
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Ashley Fox84 said:And why on earth would she go under the knife for that?? Just to blow through her cash... $3333 I went through six months of absolute nonsense just for some tiny, insignificant difference? Look, I’m speaking from experience here—it really isn't worth it. It’s not like you’re getting anything special out of it, so please... just think long and hard about whether you actually want to deal with that mess... 🙂

I told her the profile isn't necessarily bad, it’s just way too wide...😉

redridge15 said:I totally get where you're coming from. I used to hate my nose so much that I decided to just go ahead and get it done. I had it resized, and honestly, I haven't regretted it for even a single second...
Six months? What kind of story is that... who on earth takes six months to recover? What kind of butcher did you go to?! Personally, after fifteen days, I felt like a brand new person—back to my old self...
If I’d known I was going to bounce back this quickly without any lingering aches, I would've pulled the trigger on this ages ago. I think I'll go ahead and share my own take just so you can see the difference...

P.S. Yours is small, not even curved, and I actually agree with Gregory Doyle34 that you don't need surgery. But if you’re really hell-bent on it... 👍 I'm rooting for you...

Oh, I’m so glad you posted those pictures! That nose of yours is just too cute...😍
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☕Breaking the ice
Here's my take on things😍
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Amanda Wilson45 said:I'm pretty happy with it; looks totally normal to me🙂 though I did make sure to emphasize that I didn't want it to look overdone🙂

Super! Now Toncic is on my shortlist too🙄 Charles Cox, redridge15, I'm so glad you guys are happy with yours🙂

"but it's honestly so weird that none of my friends realize my nose looks different. To me, the difference is huge, but I guess people don't stare at my nose enough to notice or remember it at first glance. That’s actually a good thing. Just yesterday, a friend at a lecture told me (she hadn't seen me since surgery) that I just looked so different now that I was wearing makeup"
steelangler88, that is exactly what I'm aiming for!!!🙏 I want my nose to look better, but without everyone realizing I actually had surgery😉

Ladies, does anyone have the "courage" to post before and after photos of their noses?
Look, I can break the ice, but I only have the "before" shot😁. Is that okay?
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Question for any girls who’ve had rhinoplasty: my nose is kind of a mess from the front view. It’s "slightly" too wide from the bridge down to the tip. The profile is okay—not exactly a cute, dainty 😍, but it's flat. I feel like I've read pretty much every thread here, and while everyone seems happy with their new profile, a lot of women still complain about looking like Miss Piggy when viewed head-on.

So, how are you all feeling about the look of your nose from the front?
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Joseph Edwards31 said:I’d strongly suggest you steer clear of Klapan. Word on the street is that instead of him, they just have residents and junior specialists handling the rhinoplasties over at KB Salata. If you don't believe me, feel free to find out for yourself!

What do you mean "everyone knows"? I haven't heard a thing about that, so maybe give me some actual details?😲 And if he isn't doing them, then who's actually performing the rhinoplasties at the Klapan clinic? Is his aesthetic work just that bad, or... what? Honestly, I’m just trying to figure out who to go to so I can fix my nose without making it look like a total disaster...🤷
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So, I went in for a consultation with this big-shot ENT specialist. He checked out my nose, we talked through what he’d do to fix it, and then I went to pay his nurse for the visit. Naturally, I ask her how much the surgery would cost—and she has absolutely no clue. She just looks at me like, "Why didn't you ask the doctor?" Meanwhile, he’s already seeing his next patient, so I end up sitting there like an idiot for thirty minutes just waiting for a chance to ask about the price. When I finally catch him, he tells me, "I can't give you a price until you decide to go through with it and we finalize the surgical plan. Prices vary by thousands of dollars depending on the exact procedure!" Haloooo!!! We literally spent the last half hour discussing exactly what he was going to do and which anesthesia I wanted!!!! "No, really, I can't tell you. Just come back for another consultation next time and then..." Seriously? How many times am I supposed to sit through these talks? And how many more consultations am I going to have to pay for???😕😕 Unbelievable!!🤷
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Harold Ramirez49 said:If you’re on the thinner side—which, let’s be honest, most of us are—it’s actually pretty common to feel your abdominal aorta pulsing. It’s totally normal.

I'm pretty slim myself and I feel it sometimes too. Doesn't seem like anything to worry about. Usually, I notice it more when my blood pressure spikes because someone's being an idiot...😁
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I am absolutely terrified of general anesthesia😲, so if I were getting nose surgery, I’d only ever consider local—maybe with a little something extra to take the edge off😁. That’s why I’m wondering, how long does an aesthetic procedure usually last? An hour, maybe two? It couldn't possibly be longer than that, right?🙂