Susan Gomez33 said:Look, my friend, these are just empty slogans; no matter how much you try to learn them, you still manage to display an enviable level of ignorance regarding the most basic fundamentals.
That’s exactly what a decent portion of the people here are trying to make clear. To hawk Herbalife, you don't actually need any real expertise; all you need is a handful of catchy buzzwords like "cellular nutrition" to sound important. But look, you stepped into a debate about chemistry, biology, and physiology alongside actual biologists and biochemists—people who, unlike you, actually have a grasp on the science behind the jargon they're using.
Lesson number one: you aren't going to find "N.O." written that way anywhere, because it doesn't actually mean anything; if you want to be correct, it's just NO.
And once again, unlike you, I actually understand what Nitric Oxid is; I’ve spent enough time digging through the original Ignarrov papers for my own work to know the real deal, whereas if I were ever forced to sit through a lecture on Nitric Oxid or basic vitamins and minerals delivered by an ignorant person of your caliber, I’d probably just commit ritual suicide right then and there.
"My dear"... really? 😉 Thanks. 😁
You're right that I don't have all the answers yet, but I know exactly where I'm headed, and whether anyone else decides to help me get there or just stands by is honestly irrelevant—I'll reach that goal eventually, it's just a matter of how much time it takes. I've never been one for surface-level shortcuts; I want to actually grasp the mechanics of how things work rather than just blindly following whatever some expert says, you feel me?
I didn't step into this debate by choice; I was dragged into it, which is a massive distinction. I let my guard down and allowed myself to be pulled onto unfamiliar ground just so they could try to take me down, but that’s an impossible task—I always end up coming out of these things even stronger and more unhinged than before. 😁
When people come at me with attacks, I just try to process them through logic and my own perspective, but when it comes to insults, I tend to give back exactly what I get—if not a little more. 😎
If people actually used a bit of common sense, they’d take a second to click through the links I stumble upon and actually consider the points I'm making, rather than just burning all their energy trying to pick a fight with me. 🙂
Ignarrov doesn't reveal everything he knows or the full mechanics behind how that product actually works in those papers; he’s just laying out the general principles, while the real secret remains patented and locked away within that one specific formula. Since you clearly have a much deeper handle on this than I do, I really don't want to get into a back-and-forth about it, but all I can say is that the core trick lies in converting citrulline into arginine—I haven't quite wrapped my head around the science of that yet, though I'll certainly try to figure it out.
At the end of his lecture, he just looked out at us and said, "If you can wrap your head around how aspirin and Viagra work, then you’re more than capable of understanding nitric oxid." It was one of those lines that hangs in the air, making you realize how much we overcomplicate things. I remember sitting in a similar seminar back in Chicago years ago, thinking the exact same thing while staring at my coffee.
I haven't quite wrapped my head around the full implications of that sentence yet, but I figure there's no point dwelling on aspirin or Viagra—everyone already knows the drill with those. So, we're left with Nitric Oxid. It’s the only thing left worth looking into, and if I have to spend some time figuring out how it actually works, well, I suppose I will. 😎
I’m not out here trying to lecture anyone; if anything, I’m just looking to pick the brains of people who actually know more than I do. That doesn't give anyone the right to dismiss me as some clueless salesman, though. You should probably drop the ego, too—who knows, maybe we’ll all end up heading down to Santa Barbara this July for his seminar on Nitric Oxid. 🙂
