Doing business with USA member states
in Business, Accounting & Taxes ·
Jessica Doyle2 said:Passenger transport services are an exception to the standard B2B principle and are taxed based on where the transport actually takes place, proportional to the distance traveled. This rule regarding the place of taxation remains identical regardless of whether the service is provided to a business customer—meaning a VAT registrant—or to a private individual who is not a business owner.
1) Correct.
2) It is correct that up to the border, the service is subject to US Sales Tax; this portion through Canada should be exempt (though I am unsure how that would be treated—perhaps as an export delivery??)
3) This transport service is carried out across segments of a route that pass through several European Union member states.
The place of supply for transport services is where the transport occurs, proportional to the distances covered.
The transport moves through segments in the US, Canada, Austria, and Germany, and each of these nations has the right to collect Sales Tax on the transport fee proportional to the segment of the trip within their borders.
The price of the ticket paid by the passenger essentially includes US, Canadian, Austrian, and German Sales Tax for the transport service, allocated to the specific segment of the journey in each respective country.
Countries that have established a system for collecting Sales Tax on international road passenger transport services do so by requiring foreign carriers performing transport on a segment within their territory to register as taxpayers with a specific IRS designated for such taxpayers.
They then pay the tax for the segment in that country, just as local taxpayers based in that country would.
They file tax returns and maintain the right to deduct input tax related to the costs of performing transport services within that country (for example, input tax on fuel, vehicle washing, repairs, parking, etc.).
Regarding sub-invoicing, I don't believe you can bypass the rule, because it doesn't matter who was driving; what matters is *what* was being transported—in this case, passengers in road transport (and the law defines this quite clearly).
4) International passenger transport by sea is exempt from Sales Tax under Section 43, Paragraph 2 of the Value Added Tax law.
Thanks for the replies!
Jessica Doyle2 said:Passenger transport services are an exception to the standard B2B principle and are taxed based on where the transport actually takes place, proportional to the distance traveled. This rule regarding the place of taxation remains identical regardless of whether the service is provided to a business customer—meaning a VAT registrant—or to a private individual who is not a business owner.
1) Correct.
2) It is correct that up to the border, the service is subject to US Sales Tax; this portion through Canada should be exempt (though I am unsure how that would be treated—perhaps as an export delivery??)
3) This transport service is carried out across segments of a route that pass through several European Union member states.
The place of supply for transport services is where the transport occurs, proportional to the distances covered.
The transport moves through segments in the US, Canada, Austria, and Germany, and each of these nations has the right to collect Sales Tax on the transport fee proportional to the segment of the trip within their borders.
The price of the ticket paid by the passenger essentially includes US, Canadian, Austrian, and German Sales Tax for the transport service, allocated to the specific segment of the journey in each respective country.
Countries that have established a system for collecting Sales Tax on international road passenger transport services do so by requiring foreign carriers performing transport on a segment within their territory to register as taxpayers with a specific IRS designated for such taxpayers.
They then pay the tax for the segment in that country, just as local taxpayers based in that country would.
They file tax returns and maintain the right to deduct input tax related to the costs of performing transport services within that country (for example, input tax on fuel, vehicle washing, repairs, parking, etc.).
Regarding sub-invoicing, I don't believe you can bypass the rule, because it doesn't matter who was driving; what matters is *what* was being transported—in this case, passengers in road transport (and the law defines this quite clearly).
4) International passenger transport by sea is exempt from Sales Tax under Section 43, Paragraph 2 of the Value Added Tax law.
I can easily sidestep that rule by working under someone else's name and on their account. In this scenario, the carrier would operate under their own name and handle the billing directly with the German client, while I simply invoice my carrier a commission as a broker. Basically, I'm just playing middleman for the cut!
So, here’s what’s eating at me: if I’m running my own business and I hire this carrier, they’re going to slap me with an invoice featuring five different tax rates. Does that mean I’m stuck following those strict German-style accounting rules and calculating everything on my own outgoing invoices, even though I didn't actually drive the route myself? And do I also have to register my business in every single one of those states just like he does? I'm just weighing my options here...
Jessica Doyle2 said:Passenger transport services are an exception to the standard B2B principle and are taxed based on where the transport actually takes place, proportional to the distance traveled. This rule regarding the place of taxation remains identical regardless of whether the service is provided to a business customer—meaning a VAT registrant—or to a private individual who is not a business owner.
1) Correct.
2) It is correct that up to the border, the service is subject to US Sales Tax; this portion through Canada should be exempt (though I am unsure how that would be treated—perhaps as an export delivery??)
3) This transport service is carried out across segments of a route that pass through several European Union member states.
The place of supply for transport services is where the transport occurs, proportional to the distances covered.
The transport moves through segments in the US, Canada, Austria, and Germany, and each of these nations has the right to collect Sales Tax on the transport fee proportional to the segment of the trip within their borders.
The price of the ticket paid by the passenger essentially includes US, Canadian, Austrian, and German Sales Tax for the transport service, allocated to the specific segment of the journey in each respective country.
Countries that have established a system for collecting Sales Tax on international road passenger transport services do so by requiring foreign carriers performing transport on a segment within their territory to register as taxpayers with a specific IRS designated for such taxpayers.
They then pay the tax for the segment in that country, just as local taxpayers based in that country would.
They file tax returns and maintain the right to deduct input tax related to the costs of performing transport services within that country (for example, input tax on fuel, vehicle washing, repairs, parking, etc.).
Regarding sub-invoicing, I don't believe you can bypass the rule, because it doesn't matter who was driving; what matters is *what* was being transported—in this case, passengers in road transport (and the law defines this quite clearly).
4) International passenger transport by sea is exempt from Sales Tax under Section 43, Paragraph 2 of the Value Added Tax law.
Fine, I was asking this because I want to know if it's now classified as international transport within the European Union, since we're basically part of the same single market now, right?
