I went through the second stage of the DG HAL procedure myself. Honestly, from what I went through, the first two or three days sting a bit, but it’s nothing you can't handle... you can always just grab some painkillers. For my part, I was taking Advil 600mg granules three times a day for those first three days. Combine that with just staying off your feet and I barely even felt it.
After about a week, you'll feel like you weren't even there. Just a heads up though—that first trip to the bathroom is going to be a little rough. I'd suggest sticking to light, soft stuff... maybe some oatmeal, mashed potatoes, or grits. And drink tons of water. If you want a little extra help, you could try sipping on about a few ounces of warm Donat mg about 30 minutes before you head to the restroom; it helps soften things up.
Bottom line? It's nothing to freak out about. These aren't the kind of pains that should have you worried.
Jesse Castillo9 said:Hey everyone, does anyone have any experience with the DG HAL method? Also, maybe someone could recommend a good clinic in Chicago... I've finally decided to just deal with this nightmare once and for all. I just don't know where to go yet. My diagnosis is second-degree internal hemorrhoids, and I heard that the DG HAL method works pretty well for that kind of thing.
Look, you've got KB Merkur, Arithera, and butterfly. Those two are outpatient clinics. Might be others out there, but those are the only ones I know. You're looking at roughly 9-$3.25 privately.
This is going to be a bit of a long one, but please, just bear with me because I am honestly at my wits' end here...
About five months ago, hemorrhoid issues started messing with my life. I went to see an internist who did a rectoscopy and told me I had Grade II internal hemorrhoids.
I was using Ultraproct cream and taking Daflon tablets. After two weeks—and a month of dealing with this crap total—nothing was getting better. So, I headed over to the Butterfly clinic to ask about the IBM method.
In the end, I pulled the trigger on the procedure. Everything seemed fine at first; they tied off the arteries in seven spots, and after about five or six weeks, the hemorrhoids were completely gone.
But here’s the kicker: I still had these nagging symptoms... pain and pressure in the rectum and perineum. My doctor actually suggested it might be a prostate issue.
I went for a prostate exam, and the urologist thinks it could be chronic non-bacterial prostatitis. It can mimic hemorrhoid symptoms a lot, and usually, you don't even get the typical "urological" stuff like bladder issues. For me, the trouble hits whenever I sit too long—like 3 or 4 hours straight—and there's this constant, dull ache/pressure in my rectum.
The last three days have been brutal. The pain flared up way more than usual since the hemorrhoids cleared, and it felt so much like the old hemorrhoid pain that I panicked. I seriously thought the surgery failed or the hemorrhoids had flared right back up.
So, I went for a second opinion from a proctologist. After an exam, he said the hemorrhoids aren't back, but he spotted some kind of tiny wound near my tailbone.
He kept dancing around it—calling it a little wound, then maybe a fissure... but man, that exam was agonizing. I’ve had plenty of these exams because of the hemorrhoids and the prostate stuff, but this was hands down the most painful thing I have ever experienced. I actually turned pale and had to lie down for ten minutes...
He gave me some cream, but everything is so irritated right now that the mere thought of applying anything near my colon makes me nauseous, let alone actually doing it.
I mentioned to him that I’d already had the IBM procedure, and honestly, I think I was right to doubt him. Based on how he acted and what he said, it felt like he didn't even know what that method was, and this guy is supposed to be a specialist... he's pretty well-known, but I really don't want to throw his reputation under the bus here...
From what I understand, a fissure is supposed to hurt like hell when you go to the bathroom, burn, bleed, and all that.
I don't have any of that. Nothing. Just this constant pressure and dull pain all day long, regardless of whether I've used the restroom or not.
I haven't had a single instance of bleeding, not during the hemorrhoid phase and certainly not now.
Now I'm stuck wondering if it's actually a fissure. Where did this wound come from? Is it even a wound, or is it just some scar tissue left over from the IBM procedure that he just couldn't identify?...
I remember that in those first few weeks after the surgery, it hurt exactly in that spot by my tailbone. But after that first week, the tailbone pain vanished completely, even when I had harder stools.
Honestly, I have no idea where to turn or which doctor to trust anymore. I've been living this nightmare for five months. First the hemorrhoids, then they get "fixed," but the pain "down there" just persists. I keep going through these miserable, painful exams, and I'm still getting zero answers.
Is it even possible to have a fissure without the classic symptoms? If not, then I'm right back to square one with the potential prostate problem.
And how do you even treat a fissure? To be honest, I was thinking about just doing nothing for now and focusing on the prostate issue. If it starts bleeding or hurting more, then maybe I'll deal with the fissure with a procedure... I don't even know anymore. It's depressing seeing doctors and getting nowhere. It's just a nightmare...
After that last exam, I am genuinely terrified of undergoing any kind of rectal exam again... Does anyone know a doctor who performs fissure diagnoses under local anesthesia? I just need to be 100% sure what we're dealing with.
I've dealt with hemorrhoids before, so I know it can be nasty, but damn... at least I knew what I had and what my options were.
tl;dr I don't have any of those textbook symptoms of an anal fissure, but my specialist told me I just have some sort of small wound near the colon. Could that actually be a fissure? And if it is... how do you even fix that mess? Also, is there a doctor out there who can do the exam without making it a total nightmare? Like, maybe using local anesthesia so it’s actually painless?
restlesspuma17 said:I need some advice on creams, ointments, pills, anything really to try and fix this without seeing a doctor. I'm not embarrassed—I've actually had an exam before—but I’d love to handle this without being sent straight to a specialist. It might not even be that serious. I promise, if it hasn't cleared up in a month, I'll go see a doctor. 🙂
It's a bit of a long post, but I was trying to paint a picture of what my chemistry buddies are going through... 😁 thanks in advance.
My cousin ordered that silver ointment, Banana, and he is SO happy with it. Feels way better. It's all-natural, which is probably why it worked so well. Here's the link: http://www.lavito.eu/hr/njega-koe/sr...lem-bnano.html
Look, I spent the first month thinking exactly like that. Once I realized nothing was changing, I finally went in for an exam, and then I wasted another whole week just waiting for the procedure. After the actual surgery, it takes another 4 to 8 weeks for everything to fully heal. Sure, the symptoms might ease up sooner, but theoretically, you could be stuck dealing with this mess for two and a half months...
You don't have to jump straight into surgery, and you don't have to go at all if that's how you want to play it, but at least go see a specialist so they can tell you exactly what you're dealing with...
If I could have seen this coming at the start, I would've gone to the specialist immediately. Now? Even though things are technically better, I am losing my mind over this. Every single day feels like a lifetime...
Alright, so today marks day four since my General Hal procedure. Honestly, I’m feeling pretty good. The post-op pain is mostly gone—just some occasional light discomfort here and there, but nothing to freak out about... To be honest, they told me recovery would take maybe two or three days, and I didn't believe them. It actually was that fast.
The worst of the pain really hit right after they put me back in bed. I had this incredibly weird sensation inside... it's hard to even describe. It felt like something was pulsing or moving around in there, paired with this heavy, dull ache. But thank god the meds through the IV kicked in fast... 🙂 When I finally explained what was going on to the doctor, he just told me it was totally normal, which helped me chill out a bit...
I was super careful with what I ate during those first three days, so my first bathroom trip happened a little later than expected. Part of that was because they warned me the first one would be rough, but everything went fine. No bleeding at all, even though they said I should probably expect a little... Maybe it's because I've been on Daflon for three weeks, who knows... Also, dealing with gas for the first two days was a total nightmare...
My diet was pretty strict. I mostly stuck to protein shakes—whey isolate mixed with water—carbs were basically just clear broths, and I got my fats from a few spoonfuls of olive oil. 🙂
I only ate a tiny bit of applesauce just to get things moving for that first bowel movement... After that, I started eating more normally, but they recommended sticking to light meals for at least ten days...
I've got a follow-up scheduled in a month and a half, and man, I am really hoping this is the last time I ever have to deal with hemorrhoids...
It’s still way too early to say for sure, but if you're at Stage II (which is when most people get diagnosed), I'd tell you to seriously think about this method...
If anyone has questions or wants more details, just shoot me a PM.
That's all for now. I'll pop back in here every now and then, mostly just to help out where I can!
Even though things started looking up, I’m still not feeling 100% back to normal, so I finally just bit the bullet and decided to head over to General Hal. I am NOT spending the rest of my life constantly messing around with creams and ointments in my butt...
I’ve been lurking on this forum, but I’d really appreciate it if anyone else could chime in with their experience after the procedure.
They promised me maybe 2-3 days of mild-to-moderate pain, and then after that, it’ll be like the whole thing never even happened. Honestly, it sounds a little too good to be true...
Plus, the doctor is telling me that since I'm dealing with stage II internal issues, the success rate is basically 100%. He says I should get this sorted now before things turn into a total nightmare.
I'll update everyone once it's all over. I'm actually a little nervous because I've never had surgery in my entire life, let alone having to stay overnight at a hospital...
Finally finished my full checkup today. Honestly? I’m pretty bummed out. I went through all that discomfort just hoping for some straight answers, and here we are...
Still, I’d tell anyone in this spot to just go get checked out. You can read anything and everything on the internet, and before you know it, you're spiraling into the worst-case scenarios in your head—especially when the inflammation won't quit...
So, the verdict: Grade II internal hemorrhoids. My doctor put me on Daflon pills and some Preparation H ointment. He couldn't give me a timeline, though, or even guarantee I'll get back to how I felt before this whole mess started. He says there’s no reason they shouldn't recede, but hey, nothing is certain...
He actually told me to skip any kind of procedure. Even those "minimally invasive" ones like General Hal. Man, that sounds tempting, especially if this keeps dragging on forever....
Anyway, does anyone here actually have experience with that ointment? I had a nightmare trying to find it because apparently, a whole batch was pulled from the market due to some contaminants, so I could only track down the little suppositories...
Has anyone used those suppositories? Did they actually work for you? And what’s the deal with the pills?
It’s been nearly a month now. Every time I feel like I'm finally turning a corner, I'm right back in the gutter after a day or two. If I walk too much or if things get a little "rough" in the restroom... man, I am going to lose my mind.... 😕
So, I’m dealing with this whole hemorrhoid situation. They flared up about two weeks ago right after some heavy cycling and—if my theory holds—some pretty crappy eating habits. I don't have the "classic" symptoms, you know? No bleeding, no real pain when I'm on the toilet... but there’s this constant, nagging discomfort. It feels like something is just... stuck halfway in or out. I haven't been able to feel any actual lumps or protrusions around the area, so honestly, I can't even tell if these are internal ones that popped out or external ones. It mostly bugs me when I'm sitting or walking, especially when that slight burning sensation kicks in. Until yesterday, I could sit for a decent amount of time—like during lunch—if I just shifted my weight forward. But now, with this feeling of something being half-there, sitting is just uncomfortable. It’s not painful, per se, just awkward. I'm 27. In my life, I've only had one flare-up before, and that cleared itself up in like a week. For the last two weeks, I've been trying to be good—lots of oatmeal, chicken and turkey breast, veggies like tomatoes and salad, whole grain seeded bread, drinking tons of water... everything. My stools are way more regular and "smooth" now.
I already scheduled an appointment with my doctor, but they can't see me until Friday. Meanwhile, I'm stuck here reading all these gross horror stories online and sweating through my shirt, imagining the absolute worst-case scenario in my head.
If they actually protruded, would I be able to easily feel them? That feels like the nightmare scenario to me.
Is it even worth looking into a procedure like General Hal + RAR while I'm still young? What kind of risks are we talking about? And does that method actually get rid of them for good?
P.S. Obviously, I'm going to talk through all of this with the proctologist, but I'd really love to get some info before Friday hits....