stormybadger8 said:The way Lewis Hamilton hit that corner in qualifying versus how he handled it on lap 48... what a difference. 🙂
The only way he overtakes him—and I mean actually doing it on the track—is if aliens abduct Max mid-lap or if Max just slams on the brakes and lets him through.
Both scenarios are completely unrealistic. ☕
Is this Max Verstappen doing this on purpose?
Look, if you're saying "good morning" on purpose, fine. But you don't just drive a car around a track unconsciously or by accident, and you certainly aren't defending yourself against... 19 milesI’d take a faster car with massive grip any day. Please, don't. 🙂
Was Lewis Hamilton's entry into that corner intentional?
Let’s be real, that move was intentional. He went in exactly how he did just to force Max Verstappen to brake hard or mess up, hoping it would land him a penalty.
Let's be real—he didn't just happen to end up in that position by accident while trying to overtake. There's no way he's some innocent victim here. Max Verstappen definitely wasn't just out for a casual drive when he shoved him off the track. 🤣
Was there any penalty handed out for that?
Sure, Max Verstappen could get penalized, but honestly? It’s not a done deal.
If the FIA actually wants us to watch racing, then punishing drivers like this is just insane. This kind of stuff is literally the whole reason we tune in to Formula 1. 😳
It’s all or nothing—fighting for the win and the title. Aggressive defending, relentless attacks, and pushing until the very last inch without backing down.
Trying to overcomplicate things like that is peak stupidity. If they actually go through with it, they’re just being idiots for the sake of it.
People would still be acting like idiots even if Max had stayed on track and Lewis passed him by just a few inches while clipping the curb. They’d still find some way to demand he get punished for "overtaking off-track" or whatever nonsense they're claiming now.
Do you want F1 to be an adrenaline-fueled battle between the fastest gladiators on the planet, or do you want it to be a whining competition before, during, and after the race?
Are we seriously asking for a reality show where we just sit around listening to Toto, Christian Horner, Helmut Marko, and the rest of the crew whining about Felipe Massa and his crew? Followed by all the drivers melodramatically acting like they were nearly murdered during those kinds of situations?
Watching Ronne tear up and act like he's got PTSD after a duel like that... or just some kid losing his mind. 🙄
If we actually get what we're asking for, we won't be debating who the fastest driver is or who the best racer is. Instead, we'll be wondering who the best actor is and who has the most expensive legal team sitting around a conference table.
Penalties like this should only happen if there’s an actual collision. As long as parts aren't flying through the air and nobody is touching or causing damage, just let them race. Let them fight it out and actually give the fans something worth watching.
Especially when you're talking about these kinds of battles where there’s zero actual danger involved. The odds of a collision are basically non-existent. No matter how you look at it, I don't see which kid is being dangerous here or why anyone would actually deserve a penalty.
I honestly don't get it. How can any actual sports fan look at a situation like this and call for a penalty? It makes zero sense.
Well hello. If they actually start handing out penalties for stuff like this, we’re all in big trouble.
Just a straight procession from start to finish, exactly like the order we saw at the end of lap one...
B.) A race where passing outside the DRS zone is basically a suicide mission unless you've got a literal rocket strapped to your car. Every single overtake just looks like someone getting lapped...
C.) A race that wraps up on Sunday, only for us to sit in limbo for the next two weeks while the officials debate and bicker over who gets what penalty. We might not even know who actually won the championship until three months into next season—if we ever find out at all...
If you ask me, that wasn't even a real race... It was just Max playing dirty. He knows he can't catch Lewis because Lewis is clearly faster, so he just forces him off the track on purpose to get him out of the way. It’s pathetic...
So, look... if they only hand out penalties for actual contact, then Max Verstappen might as well keep driving like a maniac. He’ll just keep trying to force Lewis Hamilton off the track at every single race for the rest of the season. It honestly makes sense for him at this point...
Honestly, I’d much rather see two drivers actually go for the same corner and end up clashing than watch one guy pull some "totally new corner" bullshit... You know, when they just dive off the track, knowing full well the other driver has zero chance of avoiding a collision unless they just give up the spot—even though it's obvious their car is faster. It's cheap. Just plain cheap...
First off, call it a racing incident if you want—I don't care how messy the contact was... But second? This is nothing but a blatant, pure abuse of the current points standings. Seriously...
Kyle Lopez2 said:The way Mario compares collisions🤔 makes Copse look like an unpredictable accident, when this was actually an intentional hit.
That’s just not true. When you try to overtake at Copse like Lewis did, there's an 80% chance you're going to collide.
What Max did was a dive. If the area off-track were gravel, Max wouldn't have gone wide; he would have stayed on the brakes longer and Lewis would have been shut out.
Max went off-track specifically so he wouldn't ruin his floor on those white curbs behind the red and white ones, and to stop Lewis from overtaking him off-track since he would have had to stay off the throttle for too long.
Of course the whole move was intentional—that's how a dive works. You take the position on the track and use your car to block the opponent's line, forcing them toward the edge.
But here is what isn't true.
In the whole sequence, Lewis didn't avoid a collision because there wasn't really a collision to avoid. By the time he hits the apex, he's already half a car behind Max, unless he's trying to pull a Michael Schumacher '97 and smash into Max halfway.
Throughout the whole thing, Max didn't cause a collision, nor did he intend to cause one, and he certainly wasn't close to causing one. This was just a standard dive.
The only controversial part is leaving the track while defending, not all this nonsense people are typing. He intentionally pushed Lewis; he wanted the contact and all that drama. Even if we assume he did push him intentionally, we aren't stupid enough to think that if you take the racing line, you won't push whoever is hugging the outside of the track right off the circuit.🤣
Total nonsense. Just compare Lewis Hamilton’s dive at Lando Norris during (I think) the last lap of that sprint race to what Max Verstappen just pulled. It isn't even close... In the first case, Lewis brakes later than Lando, sure, but he actually keeps control of the car so both of them can stay on the track. In the second case? Max has zero intention of actually completing the lap... he just drives straight off the track.
We can go back and forth on whether people should be punished in those kinds of situations—personally, I say yes—but only a complete idiot could claim that what went down between Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton in Brazil was just some typical driving error...