hiddenpuma75 said:I was actually inspired by a discussion in another thread to start a little philosophical deep dive regarding the nature of the internet:
(To give you some context, here is how the debate between Mr. Pesica and hiddenpuma75 unfolded, which really sparked this whole idea)
hiddenpuma75:
Just so there isn’t any misunderstanding,😁 let me be clear about my stance!
I wasn't specifically backing Mr. Pesica (nor am I siding with his opponents),
but the role of a moderator...
seems unnecessary to me.
It feels pompous,
unfair (given that the true spirit of the internet is freedom!),
and frankly, quite authoritarian and patriarchal.
I’m not attacking the individual moderator here, but rather the function itself...
So many people never stop to realize they could live perfectly fine without
guardians,
moderators,
boundaries,
visas,
the military,
or even the government (most governments act like legalized mafia syndicates that meddle in people's wallets, bedrooms, and basic liberties through laws that restrict rather than empower).
Whether it’s the legal system,
sacred texts,
the church,
organizations,
or the STATE—with all its taxes and prisons—
and all those artificial authorities...
Most people possess a sort of slave-like, authoritarian mentality. They don't even question
the meaning or origin of the power structures that keep them shackled, much like a modern version of Plato's Allegory of the Cave.
(And I’ve just listed some of the most glaring examples of that kind of subjugation above.)
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Mr. Pesica: An anarchist! 🙂
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hiddenpuma75: quote:
Mr. Pes says:
An anarchist!
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If you actually understood what the pioneers of anarchism wrote and proposed,
think of folks like Bakunin, Kropotkin, or Proudhon,
you would never use the word "anarchist" as a slur or in such a negative light again.
In fact, the wonder and essence of the INTERNET is a perfect manifestation of the visionary side of anarchist thought.👍
Great foundational ideas and terms, such as
magic
or anarchism,
have become infamous simply because of mass ignorance
and the ability of state apparatuses to suppress the truth.
It reminds me of how Hitler once admitted
that masses find it much easier to swallow massive lies than small truths.
(The fact that he was a political mastermind only further exposes the twisted nature of politics and the world we inhabit.)
Please understand that the greatest miracle of our age—the Internet—
is, at its core, an anarchist idea.😲
And I truly believe that in some cosmic diner at the end of the universe,😎
Proudhon, Bakunin, and Kropotkin will be happily🙂 sipping beers and celebrating how their visionary ideas finally spread.🙂
(Once our planet—this cosmic spaceship we’re all riding through the void of the universe—is organized around the principles of the internet, or the original anarchist ideal... that is when we will achieve true social harmony.)
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Regrettably, that isn't reality, nor is it even feasible.
It might work in some utopia populated by flawless beings, but perfection is a myth...
Some level of oversight has to exist everywhere, even if it’s minimal. Nothing is absolute, and frankly, nothing should be—not even freedom. Your liberty is valid and positive right up until it starts infringing on someone else's; it can't be limitless.
It would be wonderful if people simply followed their conscience and acted with decency and restraint without being forced to. But that's just not how the world works. We need something to protect us from violence, harassment, hate speech... there will always be those who exploit others, the strong against the weak.
There are endless examples proving that absolute freedom, even if it were attainable, would be dangerous, or at the very least, unjust, unnecessary, and profoundly selfish.
Just consider what this very forum would look like if there were no moderators at all? It would descend into pure chaos—insults, shouting matches, pointless chatter, spam, the usual mess. The forum wouldn't serve its purpose of facilitating a public discourse where everyone is invited to participate equally.
Or take a more tangible, historical example of unchecked freedom—
laissez-faire economics, or the
leave us alone approach. Total lack of economic regulation led us exactly where we are now...
Of course, I believe the internet revolution is one of the greatest shifts in human history and is vital for freedom of speech, thought, and general autonomy.
Still, I wouldn't go so far as to say it's completely unregulated; that's little more than an illusion...