America has the highest taxes in the world!
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Forgive my ignorance here, but could someone clarify what exactly is meant by a "combined tax rate"?
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Maria Thomas48 said:The equation is correct. It's backed up by an Excel spreadsheet on closed community profitability. There aren't any errors or bad moves in the derivation. No amount of moving the goalposts changes that. Even Dirk Krueger uses this exact same derivation with standard economic symbols in his book "Macroeconomics"—page 29. The link to the Excel file and the PDF was shared earlier.
I'm just following the logical conclusions. And naturally, the conclusions aren't exactly pleasant.
Best,
Maria Thomas48 said:I honestly don't care what money is actually used for. All that matters to me is that it serves its purpose as a way to settle my bills. That's really it.
If you’ve taken a look at that XLS spreadsheet showing the association's profits, you'll see exactly why the payments end up getting stalled after a while.
Here’s why: The middleman sectors—those entities that exist solely to squeeze a little extra off the top for everyone else—are drying up. Eventually, they’ll just vanish because there won't be any indirect profit left to grab. It happens. One day the margins disappear and then suddenly, there's nothing left to facilitate.Next up are the ones who aren't making much money. Because business has dried up, they’re sliding into the red and struggling to stay on top of their bills. Since even the companies already in the hole haven't been hitting their tax obligations to the government, this drop in revenue means the new loss-makers are falling behind on taxes too. It all circles back to the same thing—the government ends up seeing a dip in tax revenue, which shows up as them pushing back payment deadlines for services and products ordered by the state.
It’s the same thing that happens when credit expansion hits a wall. Loans stop growing. Those companies that were once pure sellers suddenly find themselves without any business at all, and they start operating at a loss. You know how the rest goes. It’s like that whole story about the housing contractors who were making money left and right. I'll get to that. Once the loans have to be paid back, there’s less work available because those construction crews aren't out there spending money on anything else anymore. It reminds me of back during the big highway expansion era. Remote parts of the Midwest were absolutely booming during those years. Money was just flying everywhere. Everyone was winning.
People always seem to miss the connection between prosperity and a steady influx of new capital. It’s a simple equation, really. If you can't link the two, then you're just ignoring how things work. Without that constant flow of new money coming into the system, you have to expect stagnation. In fact, it's more than that. You should pretty much count on the whole society regressing. It's just basic logic.
You can pretty much model all of that in a spreadsheet if you want to. But in a real American community, we’re dealing with imports that constantly drain our cash flow, not to mention the inflation we basically import from overseas—like how fuel prices spike and then drag every other price up with them. It just speeds everything up and makes the whole situation worse.
The whole idea that inflation actually drives economic growth? It’s not exactly right. There's definitely a connection there, I guess, but there are consequences too. It's complicated like that. People still don't get it. You can't just conjure up money to cover inflation out of thin air. It only comes from credit. That's just how it works.You could basically compare this kind of inflation that drives the economy to drugs. It makes you feel good in the moment, sure, but it eventually leads you straight to ruin.Nobody can actually fuel inflation through debt because the total amount of debt just grows by the sum of the interest rates and the inflation rate itself. It's basic math.The real debt is definitely climbing faster than the bank interest rates, and inflation isn't doing anything to offset that. If you look at an Excel spreadsheet tracking inflation-adjusted debt, the math is right there. Say you're looking at 4% inflation and a 7.5% interest rate; that means your debt is actually growing by 11.5% annually relative to the money supply. You can't just pay that back with standard currency. Over a typical 20-year stretch, the debt eventually outpaces the initial money supply in terms of real value. It’s just how it works.
It’s also about that 4% chunk of cash. Sure, the value might have climbed slightly, but now those funds are just sitting there, frozen. You need that liquidity to keep things moving through the system. Honestly, inflation is really the only thing that triggers these payment bottlenecks once it starts piling up over the years. It’s basically just mathematical induction playing out in real time. Can I function without that 4%? Yeah, I can. So, shave off another 4%. Still fine. And another 4%... I can still manage. But eventually, you hit a wall where you just can't anymore. That’s when the crisis actually hits. Suddenly, there's no money left. Payments get delayed, solid companies start folding, people lose their jobs, loans go unpaid, and everything just breaks down.
It all gets paid back during credit expansion—you know, the inflation, the import surges, those terrible investments, all that stuff. Then, once the credit expansion finally hits a wall and stops, everything just surfaces at once. Everyone acts like they’re caught completely off guard, staring around like total idiots. They start asking, "Wait, what happened? We were doing so well just a second ago."
So, there it is. That’s basically why the payments are stalled. It all comes down to the cash flow drying up.
It all boils down to where the money is coming from. You see plenty of posts on this site covering that exact topic. Once those revenue streams dry up, we’re looking at a total crisis..
Hey there.
I was looking through this site about the financial system earlier. It’s interesting stuff. Very technical. A lot of points on how everything connects. I think there's some value here if you actually take the time to sit down and read through the layers. Most people just skim over these kinds of things, but there's a certain logic to it once you get past the initial complexity. It's all very straightforward if you don't overthink the mechanics. Just a lot of data to process. Definitely worth a look for anyone trying to wrap their head around how the money moves.
Profit_community.xls
Maria Thomas48 said:I honestly don't care what money is actually used for. All that matters to me is that it serves its purpose as a way to settle my bills. That's really it.
If you’ve taken a look at that XLS spreadsheet showing the association's profits, you'll see exactly why the payments end up getting stalled after a while.
Here’s why: The middleman sectors—those entities that exist solely to squeeze a little extra off the top for everyone else—are drying up. Eventually, they’ll just vanish because there won't be any indirect profit left to grab. It happens. One day the margins disappear and then suddenly, there's nothing left to facilitate.Next up are the ones who aren't making much money. Because business has dried up, they’re sliding into the red and struggling to stay on top of their bills. Since even the companies already in the hole haven't been hitting their tax obligations to the government, this drop in revenue means the new loss-makers are falling behind on taxes too. It all circles back to the same thing—the government ends up seeing a dip in tax revenue, which shows up as them pushing back payment deadlines for services and products ordered by the state.
It’s the same thing that happens when credit expansion hits a wall. Loans stop growing. Those companies that were once pure sellers suddenly find themselves without any business at all, and they start operating at a loss. You know how the rest goes. It’s like that whole story about the housing contractors who were making money left and right. I'll get to that. Once the loans have to be paid back, there’s less work available because those construction crews aren't out there spending money on anything else anymore. It reminds me of back during the big highway expansion era. Remote parts of the Midwest were absolutely booming during those years. Money was just flying everywhere. Everyone was winning.
People always seem to miss the connection between prosperity and a steady influx of new capital. It’s a simple equation, really. If you can't link the two, then you're just ignoring how things work. Without that constant flow of new money coming into the system, you have to expect stagnation. In fact, it's more than that. You should pretty much count on the whole society regressing. It's just basic logic.
You can pretty much model all of that in a spreadsheet if you want to. But in a real American community, we’re dealing with imports that constantly drain our cash flow, not to mention the inflation we basically import from overseas—like how fuel prices spike and then drag every other price up with them. It just speeds everything up and makes the whole situation worse.
The whole idea that inflation actually drives economic growth? It’s not exactly right. There's definitely a connection there, I guess, but there are consequences too. It's complicated like that. People still don't get it. You can't just conjure up money to cover inflation out of thin air. It only comes from credit. That's just how it works.You could basically compare this kind of inflation that drives the economy to drugs. It makes you feel good in the moment, sure, but it eventually leads you straight to ruin.Nobody can actually fuel inflation through debt because the total amount of debt just grows by the sum of the interest rates and the inflation rate itself. It's basic math.The real debt is definitely climbing faster than the bank interest rates, and inflation isn't doing anything to offset that. If you look at an Excel spreadsheet tracking inflation-adjusted debt, the math is right there. Say you're looking at 4% inflation and a 7.5% interest rate; that means your debt is actually growing by 11.5% annually relative to the money supply. You can't just pay that back with standard currency. Over a typical 20-year stretch, the debt eventually outpaces the initial money supply in terms of real value. It’s just how it works.
It’s also about that 4% chunk of cash. Sure, the value might have climbed slightly, but now those funds are just sitting there, frozen. You need that liquidity to keep things moving through the system. Honestly, inflation is really the only thing that triggers these payment bottlenecks once it starts piling up over the years. It’s basically just mathematical induction playing out in real time. Can I function without that 4%? Yeah, I can. So, shave off another 4%. Still fine. And another 4%... I can still manage. But eventually, you hit a wall where you just can't anymore. That’s when the crisis actually hits. Suddenly, there's no money left. Payments get delayed, solid companies start folding, people lose their jobs, loans go unpaid, and everything just breaks down.
It all gets paid back during credit expansion—you know, the inflation, the import surges, those terrible investments, all that stuff. Then, once the credit expansion finally hits a wall and stops, everything just surfaces at once. Everyone acts like they’re caught completely off guard, staring around like total idiots. They start asking, "Wait, what happened? We were doing so well just a second ago."
So, there it is. That’s basically why the payments are stalled. It all comes down to the cash flow drying up.
It all boils down to where the money is coming from. You see plenty of posts on this site covering that exact topic. Once those revenue streams dry up, we’re looking at a total crisis..
Hey there.
I was looking through this site about the financial system earlier. It’s interesting stuff. Very technical. A lot of points on how everything connects. I think there's some value here if you actually take the time to sit down and read through the layers. Most people just skim over these kinds of things, but there's a certain logic to it once you get past the initial complexity. It's all very straightforward if you don't overthink the mechanics. Just a lot of data to process. Definitely worth a look for anyone trying to wrap their head around how the money moves.
Profit_community.xls
Andrew Booth29 said:Not paying your suppliers doesn't directly impact profit. It has an indirect effect, sure, because you aren't paying the interest you would have incurred if you had actually borrowed money to pay those suppliers up.
slygardener4 said:Regardless of what the median income looks like, there is a baseline cost of living required just to survive.
The issue here isn't about how people's salaries compare to one another—it's about the fact that with $1000, a decent life is simply impossible.
Jacob Lewis5 said:The law applies to everyone equally. First you were arguing that skipping payments was how he built his empire, and now you're saying it actually helps him. Pick a side.
What "unethical" stuff are we talking about here? Name one company in the USA or anywhere else that actually runs on pure morality. It's not like he wrote the damn laws! If people are so fed up with being victimized by Todorić's refusal to pay, why aren't they out there gathering signatures for a referendum to change the legislation?
dr.laki said:He isn't building his success on a foundation of unpaid bills.
He’s merely exploiting a loophole in how things work (and he’s certainly not the only one doing it).
Jacob Lewis5 said:Look, whatever. If Warren Buffett messed anything up during privatization, he should definitely answer for it. But this constant bashing? It’s just plain stupid.
You have to look at a company like Del Monte. Before Warren Buffett took over, they were bleeding like 30 million bucks a year in losses, and their "big win" was basically making some cheap cheese spread for some Canadian outfit. Ever since he stepped in, the products are top-tier, people actually have jobs, and even the cows live better than I do—they've got mattresses and get milked on their own schedule. Same story with Coca-Cola; they were getting hammered by political drama and struggling to stay afloat, and now they're a powerhouse with state-of-the-art plants. Walmart, PepsiCo, Nestlé... they're dominating the whole region, and all that profit flows back to Chicago. Would we really prefer if a bunch of Germans, Austrians, or Italians had bought them all up just to sell us their junk and suck the cash out of here without investing a dime? That's not what Warren Buffett does.
I honestly can't tell if this obsession with dragging Warren Buffett through the mud is just pure American jealousy or just straight-up ignorance, but it's totally unfounded. Sure, he wasn't perfect—he had his flaws. But since the 90s, he's been one of the most solid figures in the country.
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