Gold: Past, Present, and Future
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The stock isn't going to stay at these levels forever. And for the record, I'm not buying a single thing.
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nimblepanther18 said:I agree that another major buying window is approaching, though I have a few lingering concerns...
If you take the current state of the economy into account, precious metals prices really ought to be at least double what they are right now.
Based on recent indicators, I am bracing for a stock market correction reminiscent of 2008. If we factor in current valuations and anticipate a 30% drop, that should represent the absolute bottom—assuming one believes prices will eventually rally again.
It defies standard logic, yet the pattern seems to be that when equities tumble, precious metals often dip alongside them instead of acting as a hedge. Is that not strange?
Good luck to everyone!
Anthony Evans78 said:Yeah, unemployment would be north of 22% if they measured it the way they did twenty years ago instead of using the current BLS methods. Did you know their model ignores "discouraged workers"—the people who just gave up looking for work and get wiped from the stats entirely? Check out shadowstats.com if you want a real look at how disastrous the US economy actually is.
The NYSE is losing its mind because the Federal Reserve keeps printing dollars relentlessly, pumping all that newly minted cash into stocks and inflating a massive bubble. No real capital is fleeing into precious metals yet. Real money hasn't even entered the fray, but once it does, we’re going to see prices skyrocket and a massive shortage of physical metals.
For the billionth time, gold can only go up in an environment like this—zero interest rates, a shrinking economy, absurd amounts of dollar and fiat printing, rising unemployment, a dead housing market, bank insolvencies, and a world drowning in debt, from the average citizen to local governments and sovereign nations. But since we aren't living in a free market, but rather one of constant intervention, we get nonsense like Alice in Wonderland, where the Federal Reserve announces a $500 billion injection and gold somehow drops by $70.
It’s hilarious that you’re labeling me as having a certain "mindset" just because I believe gold can only move higher. You clearly don't see the largest bubble in history—US government bonds—on the verge of bursting. When that bubble pops, the value of all those papers will plummet to zero. Unlike physical gold. Even if gold's price dips temporarily, its purchasing power will still dwarf everything else.
Anthony Evans78 said:What kind of capital flight from precious metals are you talking about? You honestly think someone just dumped their gold and silver and caused this crash? What universe are you living in? 🙂
It’s mind-blowing to me that precious metal prices are dropping while Bernanke claims interest rates will stay at zero through the end of 2014. Everything else he said was either a lie or pure nonsense.
The stock market rally, the frantic movement... it's just sheep running from one side of the field to the other. This hasn't made any sense for a long time. Stocks are only climbing because of the endless free money being pumped in by the Federal Reserve.
Since when does a market where Apple makes up 75% of the NASDAQ and outweighs the entire retail sector even make sense? They talk about a recovery, yet food stamp usage is at an all-time high, real unemployment is north of 22%, and the housing market is dead.
Anthony Evans78 said:Are you actually serious right now? 🙂
I'll assume you aren't joking...
What do you think happens if India and Iran start trading gold for oil? You really believe that won't cause some major chaos?
First off, gold prices would skyrocket. Second, it speeds up the death of the dollar. Third, what happens to the countries that don't have access to either dollars or gold? And fourth, do you honestly think the USA is just going to sit there and watch this unfold?
Don't you realize that Saddam and Gaddafi paid with their lives because they dared to suggest moving away from the dollar and establishing a gold standard in the Middle East?
I guess you can figure the rest out for yourself...
Anthony Evans78 said:If this turns out to be true, all bets are off...
http://www.debka.com/article/21673/
The whole point of this is to make sure that imported inflation doesn't bleed into our pockets... we can't let the cost of goods coming in from overseas drive up prices here in dollars. It just shouldn't happen...
| Once the reform hits, the dollar needs to be locked down tight... we're talking total stability while every other currency just goes up in smoke from inflation. |
northernmarlin2 said:They’ve got at least 4 times more staff on the water management teams than they actually need; about 75% of them are just extra dead weight. Honestly, they’re even worse managed than a massive conglomerate in Washington, D.C.
Look, crimsonfalcon10, what on earth are you talking about when it comes to zeros and inflation? The US has sat at a 3% growth rate for years! The US hasn't even seen development higher than 3% back when things were actually running smoothly...
I couldn't care less about consumer psychology
I finally caught on to how these repo auctions work. Seriously, why on earth is the discount window rate sitting at a massive 9% when even commercial banks aren't charging that much? I don't get it...
Maybe they shouldn't be handing it out to anyone who asks???
I'm not so sure about that. Matthew Patel12 wasn't exactly working with "real" numbers here. Plus, 5% of 4.4 billion—which is what the entrepreneurs are making—is definitely not going to hit 16.5 billion.
based on Stoletov’s math, if you try to cover a 5% profit margin using non-credit moneythat means the government would have to print roughly $2.5 billion a year just to make up for the deficit lost to savings...