Posts by Anthony Jackson2

With this whole contagion trend going on, people assume stores are prepping by cutting shifts—basically making sure they don't have to deal with staffing issues. My guess? This whole thing is going to wrap up even sooner than expected.

urbanhawk17 said:Yeah, exactly. A "safe friend." That's all it is.

#safe-friend

He's got his "safe friend"—go find yours and you'll sleep just fine.

Joshua Morales88 said:Sorry buddy, I just finally got around to looking at your comments—why would I even bother arguing with a global expert like you?😵
Seems you know more about life back home than I do. Luckily for me, being an American, I have much better sources than someone watching from Italy...

I'll assume: Daily News and Bujica ☕

So, while we Americans are busy breathing down each other's necks and spitting in one another's faces, 🤦

You haven't a clue what the actual situation is here—you're just blathering from memory and trying to act smart.

Henry Wells66 said:Typical North American mindset...
What they’re doing over in Germany or Canada... Honestly, looking at this forum, it seems like a tiny fraction of you people have actually learned anything about fighting a virus. It’s pathetic, seriously...
Civil rights, fancy titles... it's all just hot air.
I’ve been stuck in quarantine for a month now. I only head out if I absolutely have to (making sure I've got my e-Passport stuffed in my pocket), and luckily my company is one of those ones they HAD to shut down...
And when I say luckily, I don't mean for my own sake—because sitting around the house with nothing to do is enough to make you want to end it all—I mean for the older folks around me. I'm certain I won't catch this thing and pass it on to them. In my city, four people have already died and over forty are infected. If you wander out without a damn good reason, you're looking at fines between $400 and $3,000, or even up to 18 months in prison. Those are the kinds of rules we need to enforce in EVERY single infection zone. These half-baked measures (like what they're doing in places like Mexico or similar) just help the virus spread, which overwhelms the ICU wards, which infects the medical staff, which leads to...
Maybe some of you should actually think about what I wrote here...

Typical outsider perspective on America—just blue-collar types who think they've mastered life simply by crossing state lines.

The travel ban barely slowed things down—maybe a 10% dip at most—since everyone has an e-Passport anyway.

While other countries are actually fighting the virus, America is just sitting back, watching what happens, and letting its citizens take the hit.

I’m hearing rumors today that the government might temporarily suspend the Building Code and Public Procurement Act just to speed up rebuilding apartment complexes hit by the earthquake.

Why bother following the rules—or even adjusting them—when you can just work under the table? 👋 🤦

Typical government move. 🙏

So, is that law actually "live" right now—as in, have they even set up the framework to start enforcing it?

mellowotter36 said:We actually already have the Public Health Service Act that allows this kind of thing, so the real question is: should this have been debated in Congress, or can a Cabinet Secretary just decide to do it on a whim?

It exists—but it comes with strings attached.

He thinks the quarantine placed on Murter is illegal—which, honestly, isn't hard to argue with. Under the Public Health Service Act, you can only forcibly quarantine individuals, not entire regions—and that call has to come directly from the Secretary of Health, not some FEMA directive. Plus, the Law also mandates that anyone forced into quarantine has to be compensated—another detail they seem to be ignoring.

So, while Canada is busy drafting actual legislation regarding travel restrictions—

it wouldn't surprise me if those getting slapped with fines for breaking quarantine or leaving their homes end up suing the government for a payday.

Adam Collins4 said:Nah, once you realize that having an opinion isn't the same thing as having an argument, then maybe we can talk...☕

Where are all those examples of the world going into lockdown because of the flu?

And where are the examples of the healthcare system collapsing like this just because of a bad flu season?

In a scenario where there’s neither herd immunity nor a vaccine—which doesn't change the fact that the virus is effectively just the flu.

Drawing charts on a forum is a pain, but if you're that lost, I'll try to make it easy for you.

Adam Collins4 said:Oh, please, as if you have a clue...

Every single flu season, we see this exact same chaos tearing through the healthcare system globally...

Whether it’s people sounding the alarm saying "this isn't just the flu"...

Or seeing social distancing measures put in place because of a flu outbreak...

But sure, go ahead and claim it's all just "like the flu." Once you actually stumble upon an argument that holds water—which, let's face it, isn't happening—let me know.

I already gave you the arguments—maybe try reading for comprehension next time so we can actually move this along.

Since we’re throwing numbers around—if I recall correctly, we lost about 760 people to the flu last season—it stands to reason our COVID stats should look significantly milder than what they saw in Italy.

mellowotter36 said:Let me set the record straight. In the Chicago area between 2012 and 2019, about 850 people passed away during the month of March. In just the last thirty days, 1,617 people in the Chicago area have died from coronavirus alone.

Look, for the record, you don't actually know the death toll—we've already established that.

The average number of flu deaths in the US is around 14,000 annually, looking back since 2013.

🤦

Which, frankly, doesn't mean a damn thing to them.

Just so we're clear—back in 2018, 16,000 people in Italy died from the standard flu, and even with these inflated COVID numbers, they aren't anywhere near that yet.

Adam Collins4 said:🤣

You know that specific type of person—the kind who can barely survive forty-eight hours without their partner clinging to them—who suddenly decides this thing straining healthcare systems across the entire country is just some glorified flu...

It’s a funny dynamic, really. On one hand, you’ve got these codependent types who can't function solo, and on the other, you've got total idiots downplaying things people are actually dying from...

So, why don't you just go ahead? Go infect yourself and everyone you care about so you can finally build up some immunity. If your partner gets sick too, just stay tucked away in isolation together... I mean, if it's "just the flu," right?

Actually, it is basically the flu—just a strain we have zero immunity or vaccine for.

If I recall correctly, even Berosh mentioned that a standard flu would be way more lethal if we didn't have any existing immunity.

But keep talking—it doesn't matter that you don't have a clue what you're saying. Not that anyone expected anything better from you.

Adam Collins4 said:So, where’s the actual argument here?

I could just take that exact sentence of yours, slap a "not" in front of it to flip the meaning entirely, and suddenly I'm some kind of genius...

In the meantime—while we're playing word games—people are actually dying and healthcare workers are reaching their absolute breaking point...

Meanwhile, you've got folks in your circle denying reality or claiming this is nothing more than a bad case of the flu...

By all means, go ahead and try to show me how a common flu causes this level of total systemic collapse in the American healthcare system... if you can.

The argument is that any death where they find the virus in a throat swab gets labeled as Covid—mostly because they can't keep up with autopsies.

Death counts from cancer, heart disease, and chronic issues will probably drop to zero soon—which really just means their infection numbers aren't high enough (since they often don't catch it until someone dies), while the death toll looks inflated because everything is being blamed on Covid.

Right now, the mortality rate according to the data is around 10%, which is insane—China saw about 0.7-0.8% once things settled down. Sure, Italy will have higher rates due to a poor response and different age demographics, but they shouldn't be anywhere near 2%.

Even their own virologists are saying the recorded infection numbers are too low—they have no idea when the virus actually hit (some claim the first cases were mid-December)—and they won't know the true impact for quite some time.

Invoking death tolls in Italy is the ultimate proof of ignorance—just pure lack of understanding. People like that should be banned from any kind of debate altogether.

hollowmason64 said:I really wonder if you'd still call it "blown out of proportion" if it was your own ass or someone close to you among those deaths.

Yeah, except the Chinese are just waiting for the second wave now, and they just shut down the borders to foreigners.

Nobody actually knows what's coming—we'll just have to see if these measures actually work by looking at the fallout.

And honestly, closing the borders when there's a global outbreak is just a standard call.

If this whole mess drags on until June 1st, then Bozinovic and his crew should just resign now—clear the way for someone actually competent to take over.

The Chinese are releasing people from quarantine after two months on the XY route; if we need any longer than that, something is fundamentally broken in our approach.

Besides, they have the warmer weather coming their way—which shouldn't be helping the virus spread.

Exactly what we discussed—these "decisions" will be implemented based entirely on whatever ego trip a guy in a blue uniform is having at the moment.