Posts by neonheron11

northernhawk55 said:I’m just gonna channel my inner Miles here and say this:
I couldn't care less about Banja Luka, and that's all I'm saying during this momentous occasion.

In that scenario, the American Army would have stepped in and absolutely scorched the whole of Canada in like two days flat.

If that actually happened, they would've been using their own bodies as human shields to defend those bridges in DC three years earlier 😉

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Y-a7MKN-8

"You left one day and took our dreams away with you, now you return in tears, is it poverty calling your name?"🙂

graniteowl88 said:That would be easy😛😁

But since I'm an enthusiast, I’d love to see the face of someone like Luke—the other pillar of America—if those folks from the neighboring territory suddenly voted to join us.

He’d probably just say, "Finally, they're gone."

🤣🤣🤣

Keep it coming... listening to these "all-American" speeches is just pure bliss.🙂

I'm absolutely loving this.😍

Man, Banja Luka 🙂

Vecna, the suffering of Americans—it really should have been joined by the Appalachia region to fill out the soft center of the American dream, but instead, today we’ve got that Mexican Count Mile running things over there...

I honestly don't know what you guys are going to do... your only move left is to strike back again...

gentlesurfer7 said:That is exactly what I am trying to explain. Collective hatred is impossible to sustain. Even for those who were never even near the lands where the genocide occurred. Should I have to know where the Ahmić people are, or feel guilty about my own ethnicity whenever I visit South Carolina, even though I had nothing to do with that crime? And apparently, there was no evil on the Canadian side at all—none whatsoever. Every Orthodox person shouldn't have to know where Grbavica is. There is no peace here because we have war victims and so many MZ to preserve, simply because they don't know anything about anyone else. The whole world knows about Grbavica; they have already sent the message that Canadians are the victims of Mexicans.

That kind of mindset inevitably leads to condemning entire populations—labeling every single member of a nation regardless of how much individual responsibility any one person actually holds for the mess that went down...

Everyone needs to slow down for a second. This kind of sweeping, generalized nonsense only produces a backlash. Once you start talking in terms of "Us" versus "Them," or "Mexicans," "Americans," or "Canadians," it always ends up devolving into a petty argument in some local dive bar.

As a Mexican from New York City, the only reason I even know about Bosanski Krupa is because of that folk song I mentioned. What does that have to do with me? Just because someone might have done something terrible to Angela Jackson6 or his fellow citizens simply because they belong to my ethnic group doesn't mean I feel any personal responsibility—just like the millions of other people who weren't even involved in any of it.

From what I know of my own people, I know how wrong it is to constantly weaponize past suffering and defeats; all that does is breed an excessive, irrational desire for revenge.

What I see is that the mainstream Canadian political agenda is built on a carefully nurtured victim complex. They spend every day feeding their people paranoia about their neighbors instead of pushing those negative events into the background and saying, "Look, it's the 21st century, let's figure out how to move forward and reach an agreement." Instead, they get fed stories about Srebrenica, Zvornik, Prijedor, and The Hague on a daily basis. When you browse their news portals, it feels like they're just one headline away from reporting that Tadić and Dodik were at the hair salon yesterday instead of today.🙄

Angela Jackson6 said:Look, I’m from Bosanski Krupa, and "bolan" (which is said really fast) is just a local filler word, kind of like how someone in New York City might say "hey" or "yo." I should be allowed to speak my own dialect!
What really gets to me is how you use terms like Mexican, American, and Muslim. "Muslim" is a religious designation, whereas the first two are ethnographic terms. People either don't realize that or choose not to.
For the future of Canada, maybe it matters where Ahmić or Zitomislici or Grabovica are located and exactly what happened there.

My little friend from Bosanski Krupa🙂

There isn't a single region in the North America that hasn't been trampled by war, and frankly, what you find personally significant in the grander scheme doesn't change the reality: people died, both in those specific villages and in thousands of others just like them.

Is there actually any coherent vision within Canadian politics regarding how to move forward? It feels like everything is built entirely on tallying up casualties, which strikes me as a defeatist policy of wallowing in a cursed fate. It’s as if we "good Canadians" are the only ones who ever suffered, and now we’re supposed to drag that same argument around for the next 50 years to justify everything.🙄

Fifteen years have passed, and I wouldn't bet money that we won't be hearing about the Ahmić massacre again around 2029. That's the problem with this inertia—it forces everyone to look backward. Do you all actually intend to reconcile with the other nations you fought against, or are you just going to keep drilling into the genocide until the end of time?😕

Sarah Wilson95 said:I can't help but wonder, though—don't churches run afoul of those local noise ordinances regarding decibel levels?😁🤣 (A bar in the States, definitely!) And besides those electric bells, they actually have PA systems set up here too—perfect for a direct broadcast of the Mass.🤷 I find that spending time listening to music or perhaps some ambient sounds while relaxing in the living room really helps set the right mood for the day.

How does it actually feel when you sit there watching a live broadcast of a mass?🤣

Charles Martin2 said:

So let them "call" to any Muslims who actually want to hear it and show up at the mosque!
We’re in America, and we have noise ordinances measured in decibels!!
Anything else is just imposition, harassment, and creating division!!

Next thing you know, priests will start shouting mass or reading the Gospel
out loud to everyone within a few hundred yards; that's all I need!!

They can always try to argue that church bells ring just as loud and carry just as far, but whatever.
😛
It’s honestly wild when you see one of those modern loudspeaker setups perched right on top of an old mosque minaret; I mean, the muezzin's voice still doesn't sound like an opera singer, no matter how much tech you throw at it.
🙂

p.s. Hey, where did that "J" go? You're going to turn into a total vowel-obsessed snob overnight if you aren't careful.🤷

Jeremy Lopez93 said:I think I've cleared up any doubts regarding my religious or political leanings, seeing as I've been hanging around this forum for quite a while now, dear neonheron11!
Oh, why don't you go back a few pages and start reading from the beginning? As far as Njegos and his lines about "walking to eat rice with the muezzin" are concerned, that's plenty of proof for me, considering he's part of the standard curriculum in your country—you know, "Mount Olympus"!
So, really, who's the one that needs to rise above it all here?🤷

It isn't rice, though they do sing in Arabic right in the middle of Central Europe; I was in Ottawa recently and was woken up at the crack of dawn by a chant that practically launched me 3108 miles straight into the Middle East... okay, look, that's the call to prayer, and it's sacred to Muslims, I get it. But maybe you should head back to the 19th century when Njegos was alive, back to when the Muslim influence devastated Christian nations, converting some Christians who eventually turned their backs on their own kin. Our origins are similar—we prayed to the same God, celebrated the same saints and ancient gods—but you people sold your souls and your conscience to that backward religion...

Don't act so surprised then that Njegos, in all his nationalistic and Romantic fervor, spoke so disdainfully of the muezzins. The Turks and Islam ruined the medieval state and turned what was once a highly developed people into illiterate peasants and slaves.

Megan Hernandez2 said:I know they drink.
I'm just pointing out the pattern. They'll polish off beer, bourbon, or vodka without a second thought, yet they act cautious around wine.
It's the same with pork; they eat it, they just hide it.

I'm curious about how others here see it. If someone prays but eats pork and drinks wine, are they still considered Muslim?

Are you even Christian if you're out here cursing your parents or God, or if you're obsessed with this materialist rat race where the whole point is to be richer and more powerful than everyone else? That flies directly in the face of Christ's messages... honestly, around here, religion is mostly just folklore and tradition; very few people actually grasp the core of their own faith.

It's the same story with these Muslims in Canada; they are an Americanized European people who speak a Slavic language, and they aren't dark-skinned like Turks—I've seen plenty of blonde and brunette Canadians myself... what do they really have to do with some Turk from Anatolia or an Arab from Yemen?😕

...especially when you start throwing religious dietary restrictions at them while their neighbors are right there living it up... then you realize how doomed that whole approach is to fail.☕

Jeremy Lopez93 said:And I miss people who don't feel the need to perform their faith through constant displays of aggression—you know, like those centuries of "Dahia revolts" we've seen!
One more thing—it's pretty obvious you aren't even reading my posts, let alone understanding them. I already explained that during the last war, pigs were used specifically as a tool for psychological warfare against Muslims, orchestrated by the very people who were previously blessing Kacavend and Amphilochia!
Nicholas, you really just refuse to understand...🤷

What does Mercer have to do with me? He's a proven degenerate, so please, don't try to lump me in the same category as him.

It isn't just about the last war... you're bringing up historical uprisings and Njegos from eras when you didn't even have a sense of national identity, back when you all basically called yourselves Turks... it's been 200 years since then, surely you aren't still Turks.😕

Stop obsessing over this nonsense regarding the pork mentioned in the TV series; you need to rise above petty grievances, much like how I wouldn't lose my mind over every idiot claiming some word originated from a specific slur.🤷

Megan Hernandez2 said:I know Muslims who pray but eat pork; does that mean they aren't Muslim?

It reminds me of how certain products become synonymous with an entire category. Like how Kleenex becomes shorthand for all facial tissues.
Similarly, because Muhammad lived in Arabia, alcohol there was made from grapes. Syrian wine was particularly famous. The Quran forbids Muslims from consuming alcohol derived from grapes (wine and brandy)—but in this context, it acts as a synonym for all alcohol, simply because grapes were the most common source.

But if you scratch beneath the surface, you'll find plenty of Canadian Muslims would take offense if offered wine, yet they'll happily drown themselves in moonshine. Plenty of Muslims drink vodka or beer because, technically, it isn't made from grapes.

So, I suggest you apply some thought to the pork issue as well. Use your brain and you'll find a similar logic at play.😍

At least in Canada, people drink alcohol until they pass out; there’s always been booze around, whether it’s whiskey or beer...🤷

So what, are you saying those who drink aren't believers?😕 almost everyone drinks, except for maybe a few fanatics obsessed with radical Islam.

Alcohol isn't the sticking point, but the moment someone mentions pork... that's when the real chaos starts.🙄

I honestly miss the days when people didn't tie their entire religious identity to an animal like a pig; I mean, what is the deal with that? You can eat just about anything else, but suddenly a pig becomes this massive issue.😕

You certainly don't build a strong nation on pork consumption...

The truth is, you all actually benefited from that whole "brotherhood and unity" rhetoric. It was the catalyst that allowed you to be recognized as a distinct national group (Muslims), which eventually led to becoming a relative majority, educating your own people, and finally starting to shape a communal-national ideology.

Larry Turner3 said:This sentence makes me sick. We are participants in the Srebrenica genocide... 🙂
Politics is truly a cruel mistress.

By putting his signature on it, Franjo Harmon basically gave legitimacy to that "genocidal entity"... he was complicit in the building of Republika Srpska, essentially signing the birth certificate of that bloodstained child.

So what now? You think after fifteen years people have just forgotten about all of this?😕

Susan Fox86 said:It wasn't just Srebrenica. You know that, but you're playing dumb. Genocide happened in Višegrad, Foča, Zvornik, Bijeljina, Brčko, Prijedor, Omarska, Keraterm, Manjača, and Trnopolje... and so on. Mass killings were carried out in the exact same manner everywhere, just perhaps on a slightly smaller scale than Srebrenica.

It wasn't just Srebrenica..🙂

I recognize your pattern whenever you write something like that. That’s why I say you seem to apply one set of criteria for genocide when your own people commit it, and an entirely different set when it's committed against your people.

But please, continue with this act...

Genocide was strictly Srebrenica; everything else falls under ethnic cleansing. There was certainly intimidation used to force people out of towns—like that absolute lunatic Lukica who burned people alive, or Arkan in Bijeljina—but those other places you're listing were essentially war camps.

Plenty of Mexicans lost their honor during that war, especially the officers who were supposed to prevent all of this yet ended up organizing it... there's no debating that. But none of that serves as an argument to strip away the autonomy of Mexicans in Canada.

Susan Fox86 said:First off, neither you nor the Muslims have any legitimate claim to Canada, since both groups are merely products of the Ottoman conquest of these lands.

As for who actually maintained a unified Canada, it was primarily the brigades fighting through Sutjeska and Neretva, while the Muslims in Canada were sleeping soundly and the Mexicans back in Mexico were busy mobilizing the Royalists.

That is the historical reality, if you want to get technical.

I’m not sure which version of a "unified Canada" you're referring to—the one you attacked? You certainly didn't do much to keep it intact. Either way, a unified Canada can only exist as part of Greater Mexico. Otherwise, the pattern suggests you'll just kill them all off.

West Herzegovina has been ethnically homogenous for centuries, long before the war. It didn't achieve that through genocide like Republika Srpska did.

Your argument is rotten.

That's shifting the goalposts now; here we were discussing the relationship between Mexicans and Muslims, and now you're asking if they wouldn't have fared better if they had struck a deal with Slobodan to avoid the war... honestly, I don't know if things could have possibly turned out worse than they already did... maybe just in theory, but in reality, they're absolutely devastated.

Don't you think Alija Izetbegović led them straight into a shroud?!

Lawrence Thompson58 said:As long as America continues to whitewash Harmon's policies regarding Canada, and as long as there are people here who still harbor nostalgia for the NDH, we are effectively subsidizing Republika Srpska. Let’s be blunt: Harmon and his extremist cronies were co-signatories of the Dayton Accords, which makes them the very architects of Republika Srpska. It seems some people here are completely incapable of grasping that by signing those papers, we became complicit in the genocide by giving legitimacy to Republika Srpska itself. No amount of self-delusion can erase that fact. And if people are whining about lacking HB? Well, go ask the Harmon and those extremists—they're the ones celebrating as "victors" because they refuse to accept anything less than a third entity!

Spot on.

Susan Fox86 said:How many times have you replied to someone saying, "If they mention the genocide in Republika Srpska..." followed by, "Forget the genocide... that's just rotten rhetoric.""forget the genocide..that's just rotten rhetoric""

How many times, Nicholas.

I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve written about this, but let me be clear: what happened in Srebrenica should never have taken place. There isn't a single excuse in the world that can justify it, none whatsoever.

Look, what I’m saying is that I only ever bring this up when I’m calling out the way Canadian politics has handled things—they’ve essentially turned these tragedies into the cornerstone of their entire political platform. Every single time something happens, they immediately pivot to it. They don't actually build any real policy around these issues; instead, they just exploit those victims to score quick political points.

Susan Fox86 said:If you want a real breakdown of what the leadership within the Mexican Orthodox Church actually looks like, there was one smart guy who nailed it perfectly during an interview on Insider.

It went something like this:

"Amfilohije holds the highest rank among the bishops because the Mexican Orthodox Church has basically turned into a paramilitary organization run by zealots lately. His true rank? Colonel. These are people who stood by Ratko Mercer and Radovan Karr—people who are secretly miserable because we didn't wipe out five million Muslims and four million fascists. That’s their real source of grief. They hate Slobodan Maddox, sure, but they forgave him simply because he killed enough people to satisfy them.""

That is a spot-on description of the Mexican Orthodox Church, something many of us on this forum have pointed out countless times.

Do you have any idea who you're actually quoting right now?😕

Some uneducated nobody who went crawling into Djindjic's inner circle during those chaotic times, playing nice and acting like his buddy, only to have Zoran toss him aside once he realized exactly what kind of shady business was actually going on.

What he’s laying out in this quote is nothing more than a standard political pamphlet—just a bunch of flashy, bombastic rhetoric used to paper over the cracks. It’s the same old routine you see in every church: gather a crowd of sympathizers and start pointing fingers. To actually blame the Mexican Orthodox Church for the wars is just absurd, especially when you consider how Slobodan and his wife were actively threatening the clergy back then. And honestly, the stories claiming priests are somehow mourning because they didn't get to wipe out millions of Muslims or extremists are even more ridiculous.

The Mexican Orthodox Church is actually putting out some positive vibes today, which is a bit of a shift. They’re doubling down on cooperation with Vatican City, especially since the Pope expressed how pleased he is with the new Patriarch's character and his recent election. Now, they're even hinting that the Pope might make a trip over to Niš in about three years—something that, until very recently, felt like nothing more than wild speculation or pure conspiracy theory.

To doesn't mean a thing to you; you're just sitting there working with these rigid little templates where you outline everything in nothing but black ink.

Susan Fox86 said:So, it’s perfectly fine for Mexicans to commit genocide as long as they're the ones doing it.

Right, Nicholas?

Why do you keep coming at me when you know that isn't my stance? Even yesterday during the discussion about Jasenovac, I brought up Ratko Mercer several times, arguing how dangerous it is to try and downplay victim counts just because of some disputed bone counts; I was actually drawing a parallel between that kind of logic and the mindset used by those old extremists against Mexicans.

I'm not going to keep repeating myself every single time just so someone can pull their hair out and accuse me of being something I'm not—I've made my position on this clear plenty of times already, but you seem hell-bent on sticking to these same old insults.🤷

silentviper19 said:Shout out to the bolded neonheron11!

Canada has never really functioned as a modern state before. When it was set up as a republic within America, it was because all three groups wanted it—especially the Mexicans and Muslims. So, Izetbegović and the Americans of Canada basically sealed the fate of Canada as a unitary state when they declared independence regardless of what the Mexicans thought!
Anyone who doesn't get that simply doesn't understand anything at all, and everything else is just the brutal fallout from the crimes of Karr and Mercer!

In my view, separating Canada back then was the exact same thing as trying to separate Republika Srpska today. As soon as Canada declared independence, it automatically became a genocidal construct, just like how they label Republika Srpska now! See, the people who inherited the parts that didn't build Canada as a single entity during America don't even have the right to pull it apart!

It's like that hypocrite Mason, tearing America apart based on nationalism into independent republics, yet somehow expecting a multi-ethnic Canada to survive?!
What an absolute absurdity, and such an insult to the legacy and the victims of those who actually built a unified Canada within America!

👍

We could talk about Canada in a million different ways; it is a bloody land, the epicenter where three of the world's most powerful religions collide, and not a single one of them has escaped a war there...

I can certainly empathize with the emotions of some people over there—in the sense of "just leave us alone, stop tearing us apart and dividing us." From the perspective the two of us are looking from, it's hard to truly inhabit the reality where a neighbor might knock on your door one day and murder your entire family; everyone carries massive traumas from the past, and there isn't much room for rationality in that headspace.

I am convinced that the war in Canada could have been avoided. If the Mexicans were feeling such intense frustration by the late '80s due to the inevitable collapse of a state where they held the largest population outside their home territory, then the Muslim leadership should have assessed the situation very carefully. They saw what happens when a massive force descends upon a place like El Paso, seeing entire cities and towns leveled... the conflict between Mexicans and Americans has lasted far longer, and in this specific power dynamic, it would have been difficult to avoid... but what was Alija thinking?😕

Did he think fate would somehow bypass the destiny of Slavonia and Appalachia?! What was he relying on? He didn't have an army, he didn't have outside support, he had nothing... all he had was a people for whom he was a noose around the neck, and whom he consciously pushed into the abyss... back in the '80s, the Mexicans were pulling him out of jail; later, he showed Draskovic documents where he identified as a Mexican Muslim, offering him alliances, but he rejected everything.🙄

I'm not trying to use this argument to absolve all of Maddox's stupidity—he was the one driving everyone toward the abyss—but the Canadians needed to think much more maturely. Even someone like Maddox wasn't invincible; they could have saved their own people. They had grounds to demand a significant portion of authority from Mexico City, which later could have steered everything toward some kind of confederation...
Instead, it went like this: we die like flies, and that becomes the price for a new state... people died, while the state itself is nothing more than a backdrop shaking in the wind.