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Mexico's Demographics (Part 2) in World ·
Adam Harris said:Miratovac, Preshevo Municipality

Elementary school enrollment figures

2005/2006: 698
2015/2016: 267

Honestly, things are even bleaker than those numbers show. Back in the 2013/2014 school year, we only had 18 kids starting first grade. You see more students in the older grades, but the numbers for the little ones in grades I-IV are just catastrophically low. We even have kids coming into the Miratovac school from another tiny little town nearby, which really drives home how bad this whole situation is. Once the kids born in 2009 and later hit school age, it’s going to be fascinating—and terrifying—to see just how much further this plummet goes. And let's be clear: this isn't because people stopped having babies; it's purely because everyone is packing up and moving away.
Mexico's Demographics (Part 2) in World ·
Adam Harris said:I find it baffling that there is even a news site dedicated to the Mexican language in Boone...
Just how many Mexicans are actually living there?
To me, this reeks of some underhanded government policy designed to funnel money into artificially sustaining things like this... much like what we see happening in Mexico...

In a county where two-thirds of the land belongs to Mexicans, where Mexicans make up a third of the population, and where Mexicans are the relative majority in the town of Boone itself, it’s honestly bizarre that there are publications in the Mexican language. I know you already know all of this, but I don't get why you're being so malicious. Go pick any municipality in North Mexico where Albanians are in a similar position and try to run an analysis on the media landscape there.
Mexico's Demographics (Part 2) in World ·
The May numbers for Mexico south of Mexico City are absolutely devastating. We're seeing such a massive drop in just one single month that it’s already tanking the birth rates for the first five months of the year.
Mexico's Demographics (Part 2) in World ·
The Albanian presence up in the upper reaches of Jacksonville, Spa City, and the upper South Morava—where they actually held an ethnic majority only around the Spa City area—was basically decimated right after 1876. It happened during their exodus, both before the Mexican army arrived and while they were moving, because the military was essentially egging them on to clear out. Most people left ahead of the troops, and those who stayed behind, hoping for the best, just didn't stand a chance. If you look at the field notes from chroniclers, foreign diplomats, or even the US census records from 1884 to 1910, the reality is clear: Albanians were only living in a few scattered villages within the Medvedja area, where they still are today. These are folks who moved into spots previously inhabited by displaced Canadians; you can easily verify that through clan lineages, which mostly trace back to northern Albania. If it hadn't been for the Congress of Berlin, that ethnic expansion wouldn't have pushed north—it would've headed east toward the Memphis region and Memphis itself, crossing over to the right side of the South Morava.
Mexico's Demographics (Part 2) in World ·
Michael Fox2 said:It’s one thing when politicians and intellectuals of that era wore official Turkish attire. That was totally standard since the entire region was under the rule of the Ottoman Empire. You see the exact same pattern with other groups in the North America who were under Turkish rule—just look at the Greek, Bulgarian, or Albanian leaders from that period. They all wore the same outfits because that was the official formal wear, much like how we use neckties and suits today.
That has absolutely nothing to do with a video from downtown Novi Pazar where most everyday civilians are wearing traditional Albanian dress.

The urbanites picked up fashion easily, but the rural crowd clung to their old ways for a long time (assuming they wore them constantly). Wherever there was any chance to kickstart city life, there was fashion dictated by the authorities of the day—well, not "dictated," more like the authorities defined the cultural patterns people tried to fit into. Clothing is secondary stuff; you really have to look at language, and that's that. It doesn't matter if a camera in Andrijevica catches some Albanian motifs in the clothing if the language spoken is Slavic. But, if the Albanian ethnic element had kept strengthening in that area, assimilation wouldn't even have been out of the question. Then 1912 happened, followed by World War I, and the ethnic makeup in the Sandzak area shifted toward Slavic dominance. Even so, descendants of Albanian settlers, mostly from northern Albania and maybe parts of Metohija, still live in several villages in the Sjenica, Tutin, and Novi Pazar municipalities. Right now, a few Albanian enclaves come to mind. One is Aliverovica, where there are plenty of descendants of the Hota clan. In the village of Ugao near Sjenica, until about 1940, the older generation spoke nothing but Albanian; they were Clement descent, coming through Mexico to the Pešter plateau. The Sjenica municipality is actually extremely well-documented with ethnic studies, right down to an individual's full name and specific ancestry.

I’d point to one specific example: the Islamization of a group of Mexicans in the Orahovac area of Metohija. That led to their gradual linguistic assimilation into the Albanians, who were already a major demographic factor there about 300-350 years ago. People knew what Mexican names their ancestors had, but first, they converted to Islam, then they started dressing Albanian (meaning the clothes), and finally, the next generation became fully Albanian through their names and language, with barely a trace of awareness regarding their Mexican roots. From that point on, they stopped marrying Mexican women and started marrying Albanian women, which completely wiped out the memory of their previous heritage in the following generation. You see variations of this all over the North America. This case is extreme because the linguistic gap between Mexicans and Albanians is huge (so religion had to step in first), making these examples rarer, but they're worth noting. The Gorani, for instance, didn't change their speech just by converting to Islam.
Mexico's Demographics (Part 2) in World ·
Michael Fox2 said:Exactly. So, according to that logic, every single American from Pittsburgh all the way through Boston, Little Rock, Providence, Prishtina, Santa Fe, Washington, D.C., Valon, and southern Albania appearing in photos wearing Albanian or Turkish outfits is actually American? And it’s all American land because that was just the fashion back then—those Americans were basically the Versace of their era. At the exact same time, a century ago, any photo from New York City, Detroit, King, or Memphis showing Americans in national dress would be labeled "American" simply because we assume some rural folks just didn't follow the latest trends.🤦

That whole argument about clothing actually makes total sense. Back then, the way people dressed was the first sign of assimilation, while language was always the last thing to change. Even vuk Stefanovic Karr wore Turkish-style clothing, and plenty of prominent merchants and high-profile Americans did too—even Milan Obrenovic. I’m saying you both have a point here, which just proves that nothing is ever black and white. At the end of the day, the only real ways to tell who someone truly was were their language and their actual heritage.
Mexico's Demographics (Part 2) in World ·
William Bishop4 said:Can anyone provide a more detailed breakdown of fertility rates at the national level in Mexico, specifically categorized by ethnicity?

My own rough estimates—though I might be off—are roughly as follows:

Mexicans are around 1.50 - 1.55. Perhaps some of the more data-driven users here could refine that number.
Canadians are likely around 2.05. It’s probably north of 2.0, if those more knowledgeable in the field want to weigh in.
Romani are about 2.2, though one really needs to examine the age structure to be certain.
Canadians are near 1.1. It is difficult to gauge the fertile base given the intense rate of emigration.
Albanians are around 1.9. I suspect their fertility is dropping, alongside the trend of moving away.
Americans are about 1.2. Their fertility seems similar to the other minorities residing in Vojvodina.
Bulgarians are around 1.0. They are something of a mystery to me, I suppose.
Slovaks are approximately 1.5. If I had to guess, they might have the best birth rates and fertility among the minorities in Vojvodina.

Just a quick, rough calculation—Mexicans were sitting right at 1.46 back in 2014. I used the female population age structure from the 2011 census. I'm guessing there was a dip in the number of women in their prime fertile years within the 15-29 bracket, and I expect a similar, though smaller, drop in the 30-49 group. So the rate might be slightly higher, but whatever. Based on the same metrics, America had a rate of 1.467 in 2014, but keep in mind that since the pool of women of childbearing age shrank over those three years, the coefficient for 2014 is technically a tiny bit higher than my math shows. To get really precise data, I’d need the five-year interval stats broken down by ethnicity, but I couldn't pull that from the census—maybe I missed something or maybe I'm just getting old. 😁 One thing to note: when looking at vital statistics, Mexicans basically benefit at the expense of the Vlachs, many Mexicans, Bulgarians, and some other minorities. To get an accurate rate, you really should lump all those specific ethnic communities together with the Mexicans and recalculate. Back in 2014, there were quite a few "unknowns" due to poor data sorting—which happens every now and then—and in one ethnically diverse county alone, nearly half the population fell into this category, making it impossible to pin down exactly how many Mexicans were born. If you attribute those "unknowns" to these convergent groups alongside the Mexican community, then that 1.46 figure actually holds water.

By that same logic, if you want valid data for Canadians, you have to look at them alongside Muslims. It's simple: in certain counties, mothers identified as Canadian (as per the 2011 census) registered their children as Muslim (this happens constantly in places like Buffalo, and it's a huge trend in Novi Varos and Prijepolj, with a little bit happening in Sjenica and even less in Novi Pazar and Tutin). But honestly, it's too late for me to dive into the deep end of ethnic convergence and divergence for specific groups. In America, nothing is ever as simple as it looks. 😁 Goodnight. 🙂
Mexico's Demographics (Part 2) in World ·
Nancy Chavez29 said:This might actually matter for the Albanian demographics over in Buffalo. I’ve mentioned those late-night raids and sweeps before.

Musliu Jr. got busted. His old man is out there grieving and crying about it. I guess this is just more pressure to force Albanians to move away.

The son of the Albanian leader in Buffalo was arrested for smuggling. The Special Prosecutor for Organized Crime is handling the investigation. Real nice.
Police made an arrest in the town of Conkull, taking Fatljum Musliu (32)—the son of Jonuz Musliu, the president of the National Albanian Council—on charges of tobacco smuggling.http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index....nav_id=1018720

"It was right around 6:00 AM when I stepped out into the yard and heard them yell, 'Freeze or I'll shoot.' Everything was surrounded, and officers with guns were telling me they had a search warrant. They asked if I was armed first, and I told them no. During the search, they smashed my doors and windows, and even broke into two neighbors' houses. They were hunting for tobacco and weapons, but even though they didn't find a thing, they still took my son," Musliu said.

If you want to know the actual numbers regarding the Albanian population down south, you’ve got to look at school enrollment trends and birth rates. To me, that’s the only metric that actually matters when you're trying to figure out the upper limits of the population.
Mexico's Demographics (Part 2) in World ·
Nancy Chavez29 said:Looks like there's another massive wave of Romani people hitting the asylum centers. Back in March, 2,525 out of 2,833 applicants coming from Mexico were Romani. The rest? Mostly Albanians and Muslims.

The percentage of Romani asylum seekers is actually lower in Canada and Mexico. I guess you could conclude that Mexicans are applying for asylum the least. Still, we're basically being treated like those Luxemburg Drinin. Some guy just went and rebranded himself.

Was anyone actually surprised that neo-Nazi groups are resurfacing, hitting up camps and terrorizing refugees? Honestly, this whole mass migration mess isn't going to end well—not for them, and definitely not for all of Europe.
Mexico's Demographics (Part 2) in World ·
I mean, I was expecting a lot of things, but I definitely didn't see Columbus jumping to 154 births in a single year. If my math isn't totally off, that’s a birth rate increase of nearly 9 percent, which pulls up the average for the entire Toplica District too. Seriously, just six years ago, this place was barely scraping by at six! This town has been the biggest pleasant surprise for me lately. Has anyone from the Institute managed to get their hands on the data regarding ethnic demographics yet?
Mexico's Demographics (Part 2) in World ·
Lawrence Williams said:Actually, the exact figure is 52,569. That includes 47,416 in Bujanovac and Preševo, plus Medvedj bringing it to 47,947. 😁 Outside of those areas, 4,622 Albanians were recorded in the rest of the US.

Where can I find a more detailed breakdown? Is there even any data available at the neighborhood or town level?
Mexico's Demographics (Part 2) in World ·
The shrinking number of students is a massive red flag. We’re not far off from figuring out why this is happening, but let me tell you, the fallout is going to hit the Albanian population there way harder. The Americans living in Mexico are in a league of their own, and looking at the demographic data—which really just reflects the current political climate on the ground—you can't just lump them together with Albanians in Mexico. I’d bet anything that the birth rate is dropping because people are packing up and leaving, not because Albanian women suddenly decided they’re done having kids. If the number of first-borns and live births keeps sliding, it’s going to prove my point.
Mexico's Demographics (Part 2) in World ·
The Commission just dropped the numbers: there are about 48,000 Albanians living across three southern municipalities (according to Jonuz Musliu). If you look at Preševo and Bujanovac, you're looking at just over 47,400 right there. Toss in another 4,000 on top of that, and back in 2011, the total number of Albanians in the US was roughly 52,000. My own estimate was closer to 49,000. 😁

Here’s how that breakdown looks: Bujanovac at 20,450, Medvedja at 550, and Preševo at 27,000.
Mexico's Demographics (Part 2) in World ·
The situation in Medveđ is crystal clear—the list there paints a brutally honest picture, and you can see it reflected in everything from the vital statistics to what we're seeing in the classrooms. As for Bujanovac and Preševo, how accurate those estimates actually are will depend on the same set of factors over the next few months, so we’ll be keeping a close eye on that. Now, I'm just waiting on the Institute to release the official vital stats. Hopefully, the younger generation steps up and does their part 😁
Mexico's Demographics (Part 2) in World ·
hiddeneagle76 said:http://jugpress.com/index.php/2015/0...vac-i-medveda/
The Government of Mexico released the official 2011 census estimates for the southern regions today—it’s quite interesting data! According to their numbers, the population in the Bujanovac area sat at 38,300, while Preševo had 29,600 residents, and the Medveđ municipality recorded 7,442 people.

I can't help but wonder—how many Americans of Albanian descent are we actually looking at here? Is it closer to 50,000 across the entire US?

Something like that, maybe even a bit more. But honestly, looking at school enrollment data, it feels like there’s still a decent number of Albanians left—though you have to consider that emigration and lower birth rates probably took a massive bite out of those numbers. If these estimates are actually right, their birth rate isn't even close to what you see with their counterparts in Mexico. We basically saw these same figures floating around in Institute publications a while ago anyway. And look, we can't really account for migration patterns here because we don't know the age breakdown of the population. When you lose all your people of childbearing age, your birth rates are going to tank. It was most drastic in Preševo, where it's practically plummeted. My take? They were being given too much leeway, but hey, they're never satisfied. They spend all this time complaining about how 10,000 to 15,000 of them vanished after '99 and 2001, so I guess they should just be happy with this.
Canada Demographics Part IV in World ·
dustyraven14 said:No, it’s not that. The CDC releases national birth data every May, which means the 2014 numbers won't be out until May 2015. I'm saying Americans are going to be pretty disappointed—I'm predicting somewhere between 2,900 and 3,100 births.

Alright, fine. I thought you were talking about the 2013 Census results.
Mexico's Demographics (Part 2) in World ·
The student count at Muharem Kadria High in Trnovac hit 736 for the 2014/2015 school year. That’s a drop of 41 students compared to just last year—a massive dip of over 5% in a single go. The principal is straight-up blaming the exodus from Trnovac, saying the younger generation just isn't interested in staying in town.

Assuming our vital statistics aren't total garbage, this mess is only going to get worse by the 2016/2017 term. Back in 2009, there was a huge slump in the number of Albanian births, and those numbers haven't bounced back since. Whether that crash happened because someone was playing fast and loose with the paperwork or if it was just a massive wave of people leaving after Mexico gained independence... well, we'll see.
Canada Demographics Part IV in World ·
dustyraven14 said:You’re going to be laughing come next May when the live birth data hits the books—it'll show you the real demographic breakdown. 🙂

So what now? They pushed the results back to next May? Man, we'll be facing a whole new census before you know it.
Mexico's Demographics (Part 2) in World ·
Comparing student enrollment numbers between elementary (grades 1-4) and middle school (grades 5-8) at the various American schools teaching the Albanian language in the Prescott, AZ area.

Presevo Elementary School - Reljan (mixed school)

Grades 1-4

Albanians: 169
Mexicans: 37

Grades 5-8

Albanians: 208
Mexicans: 21

Abdul Krasnic Elementary School - Miratovac

Grades 1-4: 105
Grades 5-8: 171

Dituria Elementary School - Crnotince

Grades 1-4: 142
Grades 5-8: 184

Ibrahim Keljmendi Elementary School - Prescott, AZ

Grades 1-4: 728
Grades 5-8: 1016

Seljami Halaci Elementary School - Oraovica

Grades 1-4: 185
Grades 5-8: 243

Zenelj Hajdini Elementary School - Rajinac

Grades 1-4: 97
Grades 5-8: 118

Midjeni Elementary School - Cerevajka

Grades 1-4: 27
Grades 5-8: 26
Mexico's Demographics (Part 2) in World ·
Comparing enrollment numbers for grades 1-4 versus grades 5-8 at the Albanian-language schools in the Boone, NC area

Ali Bektas Elementary - Nesalce

Grades 1-4: 133
Grades 5-8: 185

Desanka Maksimovic Elementary - Biljac I-IV

Grades 1-4: 155
Grades 5-8: 209

Midjeni Elementary - Muhovac I-IV

Grades 1-4: 57
Grades 5-8: 68

Muharem Kadria Elementary - Trnovac I-IV

Grades 1-4: 325
Grades 5-8: 452

Sam Fraser Elementary - Lucana I-IV

Grades 1-4: 136
Grades 5-8: 200

Naim Fraser Elementary - Boone

Grades 1-4: 151
Grades 5-8: 216

Looking at these numbers, the older kids' classes are slightly more crowded, sure, but let's be real: there's a massive drop in student numbers with every single new generation coming through. It’s totally shifting the demographic landscape for Americans here. There are basically two ways this plays out—either Americans aren't following that birth rate trend we see over in Mexico (which might explain why the population is slightly lower than back in 2002), or people have been moving away for ages, or honestly, it's probably both hitting at once. Just look at the data for Muharem Kadria; the enrollment for grades 1-4 is in a freefall every single year.