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The Eighth Sin: GREED in Spirituality ·
Lisa Morales4;52002578 said:
Look, if you were out hitting the high-end malls during the reign of the Communist Party, you weren't exactly showing up at church in public, right? No way. You weren't part of that upper class
—at least, not unless you had an escort, a buddy, or some connection to a friend in the ruling party.


🤦

The "escort class" is practically waving from the coast of the Adriatic Sea

🤣🙏

Have you been away from the States too long, or is it just memory loss?

Worker vacation resorts? Oh, please, give me a break!

Back during that regime, everything was meticulously filed away. They kept tabs on everyone; they knew exactly who was attending church and whether they were considered "safe." Meanwhile, the "others"—the ones without those privileges—were left out in the cold, stuck shopping their lives away in Australia or wherever, while their families back home wouldn't dream of associating with them if they actually wanted to attend church in peace.


Oh, come on! You really think a few thousand spies could monitor 22 million people and keep tabs on their every move? Especially the ones making a public show of going to church! 👏
As for me, I used to go to church quite publicly right up until I started my career; then I realized there wasn't much of a solid foundation for that kind of public obedience, so I became a bit of a solo thinker instead.

And another thing;
It’s Austria, darling, not some rundown part of Australia...😉

Well, now that you've gone through the FBI files and their whole messy history, did you notice anything else regarding how "obedient" people actually were?
The Eighth Sin: GREED in Spirituality ·
Be meek, be humble, and find your peace!

🙏
The Eighth Sin: GREED in Spirituality ·
Lisa Morales4 said:To be fair, having half a century of absolute communist rule (is there any better example of total control and forced obedience?) left deep scars on the American soul: sing this song, don't sing that one, clap now, show affection here, procreate there, but stay away from this, and stay away from that. If you aren't compliant, you're out in the cold; if you aren't obedient, they'll be eavesdropping on your conversations; and if you aren't a loyal follower, they'll find a way to shut you down or freeze you out. It goes on and on.

Well, you’ve got your own version of communism right there in Australia...🤣

I bet you've heard all about passive resistance. Back then, when we were forced to sing those anthems in the choir, we’d just go through the motions, opening our mouths without any heart. When we were supposed to show up at those big political rallies for the holidays, we'd try to hide out in the gym or just slip away... 🙂
Back in November, we used to head over to Austria for a little shopping spree, much like how everyone would head out during May Day... 👏

During that era of absolute communist control (though some people claim communism was never actually fully realized anywhere!), we would cross borders and do exactly what we wanted—as long as we were smart about it and kept it low-key.
I even went to church🤣 and listened to the priests, and nobody ever came knocking on my door for it. For vacations, we’d just head to the beach or hit the slopes in Canada...
The Eighth Sin: GREED in Spirituality ·
mistygull16 said:I didn't quite catch your drift there, but let me lay out my take. Take kids, for example. When you let them fly solo without any guidance, they aren't exactly going to sit around and think deeply about life. Instead, they go hunting for anyone who looks like they're in charge, even if it's just some total maniac or a junkie. That’s basically why you see so many kids spiraling into drinking or drugs these days...

Honestly, I don't think young people are actually hunting for "authority" in the traditional sense—to them, that whole concept is pretty much a joke. What they're really looking for is something they can identify with. They want something that leaves a good impression, something cool, or something that actually gives their lives some meaning.

It all comes down to that search for identity. Sure, if finding themselves means latching onto a certain leader because it feels meaningful or impressive, then they'll follow that authority. But as they grow up and mature, they start questioning everything they once thought was true.
That explains why youth movements within Catholicism can be so incredibly popular.
The Eighth Sin: GREED in Spirituality ·
Tyler Baker6 said:Heh, yeah... but deep down you're probably pissed that you can't actually fix that authority figure.

Seems like we both belong to the same crowd from 'nine faces of the soul.'

Honestly, I’m finding myself believing in authority less and less these days.
The Eighth Sin: GREED in Spirituality ·
Tyler Baker6 said:Everyone seems pretty obsessed with this whole idea of how people are so easily swayed
and how easy it is to manipulate them—but let’s be real, everyone usually only sees it happening to someone else. It’s totally possible we all have that streak in us; it just hits some people harder than others.
Personally, I get way too hyped up about some authority figure and their "expertise" until I catch them slipping on some stupid mistake... and then I end up feeling totally let down by them AND my own flawed judgment.

I always try to give people a fair shake first! But more often than not, those authority figures start veering off into territory I just can't follow, and it starts feeling a bit threatening, one way or another.
I don't let the disappointment hit me too hard anymore—I guess life experience has finally helped me grow a thick enough shell.🙏
The Eighth Sin: GREED in Spirituality ·
Andrew Hayes8 said:I've watched both the movie and the documentary
it really is striking how easily people can be swayed in any direction whatsoever.

It just goes to show how society is really nothing more than a construct built around certain ideas. We’re all just following those same patterns—whether we realize it or not! It’s fascinating, honestly. You see people moving in sync, driven by these shared concepts, almost like they're on autopilot. I was reading about this the other day, and it really hit home how much our behavior is shaped by the collective mindset around us. Whether consciously or subconsciously, we're all just playing our parts in the grand design!

You absolutely have to watch the movie *The Wave*—it’s such a powerful, eye-opening piece of filmmaking! It hits the nail right on the head when it comes to how easily things can spiral out of control. Honestly, I couldn't stop thinking about it for days after the credits rolled. It's one of those films that stays with you, showing just how fragile social structures really are. Seriously, do yourself a favor and check it out!👍
The Eighth Sin: GREED in Spirituality ·
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There’s also the Milgram experiment out there, but personally? I find "The Third Wave" way more fascinating—it's actually what the movie was based on!
The Eighth Sin: GREED in Spirituality ·
Lisa Morales4 said:Man, if that's the case, then you're basically unreliable—just some chaotic troublemaker everyone needs to steer clear of.🙄

Hmm... or maybe you just misunderstood what "obedience" meant growing up, so you expressed your free will through defiance. You know, essentially screwing over anyone who (as you so eloquently put it) had been placed in a certain "box" of responsibility, or anyone who trusted you to finish something. By being defiant, you probably blew things up without considering the impact on your team—assuming you actually care about anything other than yourself or the consequences, and assuming you even care about the "responsible" person asking you for help.

Oh, don't worry, I remember being a total toddler during my teenage years, telling my parents "N-o, I w-i-l-l n-o-t!" But that was safe to do at home, because a threat of a timeout was just a sign of love,
whereas consequences for that kind of disobedience at school would have cost way too much.

Folks, it brings to mind Jesus's parable from a recent Bible reading about the vineyard owner who had two sons. When he called the first one to help, the son said, "No," and left. But later, he changed his mind and went to help. When the owner asked the second son to help, he obeyed immediately.

A question for Nemruth Dag and the rest of the world: which son actually pleased his father more?

A follow-up question for Nemruth Dag and the rest of the world: why did soldiers in the civil war shoot their own comrades over something as trivial as a handful of dried plums?

A question for the intellectuals: why does Zloca Destruction place such importance on obedience?

An additional question for the intellectuals: what do trust and love actually mean to Zloca Destruction?

Look, we aren't really debating literature here. It's more about the concept of obedience when you're looking at spiritual growth—specifically, whether being submissive actually helps you evolve or just holds you back.

They shot them to prevent total anarchy within their own ranks. I mean, draconian punishments for tiny infractions are what keep any disorganized mob in line. They weren't the first to do it, either; even the Roman legions used to execute their own soldiers for disobedience.
The Eighth Sin: GREED in Spirituality ·
Nicholas Gonzalez8 said:Everyone’s got an opinion worth hearing, I guess, but at the end of the day—you really ought to be making your own calls.

I’m totally on board with that! It's the right way to live. But man, sometimes life hits you so hard that you aren't even capable of making a choice—you're just trying to stay upright and listen.
The Eighth Sin: GREED in Spirituality ·


You know, everyone talks about the seven deadly sins, but there’s an eighth one hiding in plain sight—one that doesn't even look like a sin at first glance. It's obedience. Honestly, it's caused enough chaos to earn its spot on the list.
It's funny, really. People often toss aside their own common sense and intelligence just to follow some authority figure. They turn into a total herd mentality from the get-go. It’s much easier to let someone else make the calls than to actually think for yourself, right? So they just trade away their freedom of thought for convenience.
Any society built on rigid authority relies on that exact same mindset, and frankly, so do most ideologies and religions.

Check out this episode of Science Magazine dedicated to this "eighth sin."

Looking at it through a spiritual lens, what do you all think? Is blind obedience a good thing or a bad thing when it comes to a person's spiritual growth and maturity?

How do you guys handle your own obedience—or lack thereof? What kind of impact has it had on your life?
The salon plumber in Close to Politics ·
neonhound18 said:Well, not quite, though he does have a rather nasty habit of executing enemies of the state—without any sort of trial, naturally. 😛

Oh, right! So they just don't go after kids or dig up any old mass graves... totally clean. 🙂
The salon plumber in Close to Politics ·
neonhound18 said:I’d go so far as to suggest that a true leftist is nothing more than a die-hard Bolshevik—a full-blown totalitarian, really, a Stalinist who likely keeps framed portraits of Stalin hanging in every room of his house. I can just see him now, standing half-naked on some freezing hilltop in the dead of winter, clutching a knife in one hand and a Soviet flag in the other, shouting at the wind about how long live the revolution and how much he adores Comrade Stalin. 😁

Oh, absolutely. You nailed it. Except for one little detail: when the moon is full, they start eating toddlers.😒
The salon plumber in Close to Politics ·
crimsonwolf20 said:Honestly, communism really does function just like a religion—actually, you could say socialism is its own kind of faith, one that’s responsible for some of the most massive atrocities in human history. No other religion even comes close. It's all done in the name of "the collective" and chasing some impossible utopia.

If you look at the empirical evidence and the theoretical arguments, it’s nothing more than a blind belief in something that doesn't exist—and honestly, can't exist. We're talking about an irrational faith in the idea that we can create this prosperous, classless society with free services for everyone through central authority and social engineering.

The thing is, socialists don't offer any actual proof, and their theories don't align with basic economic principles or real-world human experience. They aren't living in reality—instead, they aggressively cling to this blind faith and hope for some righteous socialist society where everyone is equal.

Not only do they lack evidence, but they willfully ignore mountains of data telling them the exact opposite! Even seeing how this entire system collapsed all over the world hasn't talked many of them out of their religious fervor and those irrational beliefs in socialist fairy tales.


If we want to compare communism to any other ideology, the parallels between this communist phenomenon and monotheistic religions are striking;

1. Both emerge from cults of personality and offer fairytale-like solutions to complex problems.

2. Both sustain themselves through rituals and ceremonies; both have their own heroes, saints, and folk legends of war or labor.

3. Both lean heavily on paranoia, inventing enemies out of thin air or even out of their own shadows.

4. Both claim a monopoly on the truth and use it as an alibi for everything they do.

5. Both believe they are acting out of deep humanity, whether they are killing or trying to "reform" their opponents.

6. Neither is subject to any actual verification of truth or objective interpretation of the world.

7. Both crave power and are terrified of having to share it.

8. Both are passionately intolerant, even while claiming they are saving the world in their own special way.

9. Both love converts because once someone flips, the propaganda machine can exploit them to the core for its goals.

10. Both maintain a strict hierarchy, which leads back to an elite top tier holding absolute power.

11. Everyone is supposedly brothers or comrades.

12. The proletariat plays a redemptive role, much like a cult of personality.

13. Both despise their own heretics, apostates, and internal factions.

14. Both demand an oath—either to the heavens or to the Revolution.

15. Both are incredibly, almost fanatically, devoted to their cause.

!6. Outside of the church or the Party, there is no salvation.

Or, as Pascal Bruckner puts it: "Communism was the truth of a certain kind of Christianity pushed to its extreme."

All of this—and so much more—suggests we are looking at two monolithic ideas that are self-sufficient by nature, both creating totalitarian societies in their own unique ways.
However, there is still a distinction to be made: religions focus on the afterlife, whereas communism focuses on the earthly realm (though, let's be honest, religions aren't exactly detached from this either).

Religions don't just pop up overnight. Building a system of dogmas that actually holds weight requires immense work and wisdom. Communism was short-lived and never truly became a religion because it lacked what religions have in abundance: the fear of death and life itself,
sin and personal guilt,
absolution from sin,
the cross as a reminder and a symbol of what awaits you,
and the hope that life doesn't end at death, but continues into eternal life.

So, while communism mimics religious categories as an ideology, it isn't a RELIGION in scope. It doesn't just touch physical society; it invades the human psyche, poisoning it with guilt and offering salvation through a cult and a rigid structure. It has its own headquarters with a Pope-like leader ruling via the Holy Spirit, a massive army of professionals whose sole job is maintaining the system, and it lacks longevity—communism lasted maybe 70 years, while religions have endured for millennia.

In the end, these two totalitarian systems overlap in how they execute their dictatorships, but their ultimate goals differ: one looks toward the sky, the other toward the earth. It’s hardly surprising; all repressive ideologies are woven on the same loom, even if the patterns vary.
The salon plumber in Close to Politics ·
Elizabeth Allen92 said:Actually, it’s more of an ideological cult.

and Marshall was basically Pope Pius I

Marshall would've probably been a Protestant or an Anglican instead.
☕

and Dolanc was likely the Archbishop of Ljubljana.

Yeah.

I mean, being Russian or Ukrainian basically meant you were Orthodox.
The salon plumber in Close to Politics ·
Amanda Howard said:Joining the Cub Scouts was basically their version of First Communion, and moving up to the youth leagues? That was their Confirmation.

But getting inducted into the Party? That’s a full-on ordination...☕
The salon plumber in Close to Politics ·
Let’s be smart about this and not beat a dead horse, because we all know where this is going.

If we’re going to compare communism to any other ideology, then this whole phenomenon of communism and monotheistic religions actually overlap quite a bit;

1. both emerge from a cult of personality

2. both stay alive through rituals and ceremonies, and both have their own heroes, saints, and folk legends from times of war or labor

3. both weaponize paranoia by inventing enemies out of thin air or even out of their own shadows

4. both claim a monopoly on truth and provide an alibi for their own behavior

5. both believe they are being deeply humane, whether they are killing people or trying to "cure" their opponents

6. both refuse to be subjected to any actual verification of truth or interpretation of the world and its phenomena

7. both crave power and have zero interest in sharing it

8. both are passionately intolerant, even though they each claim to be saving the world in their own way

9. both love converts because the propaganda machine can exploit them to the core for its own goals

10. both maintain a strict hierarchy, which naturally places absolute power at the very top

11. everyone is considered brothers or comrades

12. just as there is a cult of personality, the proletariat class takes on a redemptive role

13. both despise their own heretics, apostates, and factions

14. both demand you swear an oath, whether to the Royal sky or to the Revolution

15. both are more than dedicated to what they do

16. outside of the church or the party, there is no salvation

Or, as Pascal Bruckner puts it: "Communism was the truth of a certain type of Christianity pushed to the extreme."

All of this—and much more—suggests we are looking at two monolithic ideas that are self-sufficient by nature, with both creating totalitarian societies in their own unique ways.
Now, one could argue there is still a distinction, since religions are focused on the afterlife while communism is focused on the earth (though let's be honest, religions aren't exactly immune to earthly matters, either😍).

Religions don't just pop up overnight; building a system of dogmas that actually holds water requires immense work and wisdom. Communism had a short run and never truly became a religion because it didn't have access to what religions have in abundance: the FEAR of death and life,
sin and personal guilt,
the absolution of sin,
the cross of life as a warning and a reminder of what awaits you,
and the promise that life doesn't end with death, but continues into eternal life.

So, communism mimics religion as an ideology within certain categories, but it is definitely NOT a RELIGION in terms of scale. It doesn't just touch physical existence and society; it invades the human PSYCHE, poisoning it with guilt and offering salvation through a cult and a specific structure. It has its own headquarters with a Pope who rules via the holy spirit, a massive corps of professional workers whose sole purpose is maintaining the system, and its longevity—communism lasted maybe 70 years, whereas religions have endured for thousands.

In the end, these are two totalitarian systems that overlap in how they execute their dictatorships, even if their ultimate goals differ; for some, it's in the sky, and for others, it's on the earth. It’s hardly a surprise, really, since all repressive ideologies are woven using the same patterns, even if they use different looms...😲
The salon plumber in Close to Politics ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Communism

Honestly, communism as a religion is such a perfect way to put it! It’s like Marshall was basically the Pope Pius I 🤦 and Dolanc was probably some high-ranking archbishop from somewhere like Chicago or something. 👏
The salon plumber in Close to Politics ·
silentfalcon3 said:Supposedly a satanist...

I mean, he’s probably a lizard person, a Mason, a closeted homo, and part of the Illuminati too!
The salon plumber in Close to Politics ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Karl Marx had a rough go of it, honestly. I can't help but see him as the bad guy because his whole ideology caused so much damn damage—way more evil than people want to admit. Plus, he had this blatant grudge against Americans and several other groups too. But at the end of the day, the man wasn't some rich elite, nor was he some perfect saint.

Wait, which religion?