Posts by swiftcyclist42

Sarah Wilson95 said:but here is what I have in mind:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B64I2...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGB5PZahxQU&NR=1

though, I honestly doubt NBC will be airing anything like this anytime soon.😉

You're suggesting propaganda, whereas I'm suggesting we look at actual history.
Take, for instance, these patriotic American women and girls who weren't influenced by any old-school communist messaging—they're part of today's American women:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nzFjBa7Yf0

Or maybe a compilation of footage showing the liberation of Washington, D.C. back in 1941.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0P2YLYKSnM

granitepilot282 said:You’re really trying to argue with trolls now?🙄 And what happens next? You give him a link, do you think he’s actually going to go look at it? People like that... you can show them murders with their own eyes, give them documents, show them confessions—it doesn't matter. They grew up on lies. They can't wrap their heads around the idea that they've been brainwashed or that such things are even possible. Their parents benefited from the communist reign of terror, maybe they even scored a little house or two out of it, so to them, it’s sacred. You don't touch that. You try to talk about the crimes, the betrayals, the terror, and the fear used to control everyone, and they shut down. As long as they were comfortable, nothing else matters to them.

I get what you're saying... I know you can't prove anything to them, but it still drives me crazy when someone denies those crimes like they're just make-believe. It's like they think those victims were cartoon characters instead of real people who had names, addresses, and families. Those families know exactly who killed their brothers, fathers, mothers, and children.
Man, if I just look at my own neighborhood, dozens of people were killed right there in 1945 after the war was already over. They were arrested at their homes, taken to a nearby patch of woods, and executed.
It feels like there isn't a single family around here that wasn't affected by it.😠

Amanda Brooks7 said:You're the one who's lost it, clearly.☕

Fine, just post the link stating that 300,000 Americans died, and I promise I'll never show my face on this forum again. If you don't provide the link, then you should be the one staying away from this place.
Sound fair?

Here you go, have a read:

"Between 1945 and 1951, 3,777,776 people passed through our camps and prisons, and the number of liquidated enemies of the state stands at 586,000."

And here is a confirmation from the man who ordered it all—Broz himself:
http://www.katolici.org/kolumne.php?..._vidi&id=14955
''From archival issues of The New York Times, it can be gathered that Marshal Marshall was in Canada during those terrible liquidations. Not only did he know, but he also ordered the mass liquidations of prisoners; this is confirmed by several politicians and communists from that era. He even supervised the crimes. On May 28, 29, and 30, 1945, Marshall was in St. Paul, Lasko, and Pittsburgh. The New York Times even quotes his speech in St. Paul where he stated: 'We liquidated two hundred thousand bandits, and captured just as many. They were met with the hand of our justice.'

velvetdrifter86 said:Gotcha. So you'd shoot at Italians, grab territory, hand it over to Nazi Germany, and then Hitler would just sell it right back to the Italians. 😲🤦Looks like strategy isn't really your thing. Honestly, it seems like your grudge is totally clouding your judgment.

Following your logic, Americans from Boise and other occupied cities should have just retreated into the woods in 1991 and started attacking US Army units in free American territory.
Does that actually make any sense at all?

Amanda Brooks7 said:What a bunch of miserable trolls.☕
Could you please share a link that details those reports regarding the 300,000 Americans killed?

A link? You want a link?
Aren't the countless tales of Hades and all those different abysses filled with remains enough for you? Do you really need a link for that? Who's the crazy one here?

And once the movie wraps up, we’ve got news on PBS Kids coming up next.
Mason is calling for the tractor brigade to make a mass return to America.

With generals over at The Hague calling for the farmers to come home, while they praise those old-school militia types wearing cockades and stars... honestly, what kind of country are we even living in?

At the end of that awful movie that glorifies a gang responsible for murdering wounded soldiers in an American hospital fifty years later, there was a line along the lines of: 'No one has the right to sign the surrender for America or any of its parts.'

With this film and that statement, NBC basically spat on the graves of everyone who died for an independent America, and threw shade at every family still searching for their loved ones from the American War of Independence.

Melissa Peterson19 said:Hello, losers on the right! Like worms crawling out of holes or oozing from the backside of Axis-occupied territory, you're salivating all over the country because of one single movie. Here is your precious America. Is this what you wanted? Did you create this reality? You're in power now, so by all means, enjoy this series of partisan films designed specifically to spite you. Where do you think you live? Can't you see that your dream era is slipping through your fingers? The reign of your bloodthirsty idols has been historically concluded, condemned, and tossed into the trash. Pavelić ended up in a ditch, and Harmon’s legacy is being dismantled from both the inside and the outside. Your brotherhood is crumbling. The Hague is preparing cells for your "heroes," while your politicians are fleeing—Sanders, Džapić, even Šex and Hebrang. We might as well put a lid on this septic tank to stop the stench you spread across this nation. Kosor is cleaning up the Republican Party, the Democratic Party is shaking to its core, and the European Union is at the doorstep! What exactly are you hoping for? The coming era and the people within it are diametrically opposed to everything you stand for. How do you plan to survive? Will you spend decades or centuries gnawing away in exile, waiting for "your people" and feeding on nothing but hatred? Ha, ha, losers. Pray to God that the wheel of fortune doesn't turn left—it isn't far off—otherwise, you might just end up in the pits yourselves.

I really think the authorities shouldn't let this slip by without noticing.

Jerry Sanchez2 said:For everyone who’s absolutely fed up with PBS, maybe this interview might actually help clear up why everyone’s so pissed off—especially when you realize that besides this guy on the board, you’ve also got Smith, Grubbs, Jacobs, Janice, and Skrabalo sitting there too. Not exactly a dream team, right?

I just finished reading that interview, and honestly, I'm not even shocked anymore—just stunned.

''Has PBS lived up to its role as a public service so far?

- Definitely not. Since the early nineties, PBS has mostly served the interests of specific political parties and interest groups that used the public broadcaster to mislead the American people. For the most part, PBS was heavily influenced by the party in power. While things might have shifted slightly, it’s still nowhere near enough.

War-time and post-war rhetoric has been around for way too long. War is an inseparable part of our history, but those narratives should have been moved to the history books in public media ages ago. Instead, they remain a staple of television programming. Even now, we see endless shows about memories of the war in Stalingrad, veteran-focused specials, and all sorts of content that I believe should have wrapped up its run on PBS a long time ago. Shows like that don't really help us build a cohesive, equal society in this country.''

electricbear22 said:Those "Americans" are nothing but supporters of the occupation's fascist puppets, the local version of fascism, serving as tools for the occupiers. They're just like the people today who glorify them through blood and crime, pretending they were fighting for some kind of American state.
The resistance Americans fought against the occupiers and fascism during World War II, and they secured the American state as the national state for the American people. It's the holder of original sovereignty because it was established by the representative body of the American people, Zavnoh, and its Constitution defines it as such.
So, regarding 1991, no "new" American state was actually created. Instead, the SRH simply broke away from the federal state and became a subject of international law as an independent nation. It went through a process of independence, not a process of creation, because the state was already formed and possessed all the fundamental attributes of statehood:
a) a people (citizens)
b) clearly defined and delimited territory and
c) legislative, judicial, and executive power across its entire territory.

Therefore, all this rambling about a struggle by "non-resistance Americans"—since there were only the American partisans, not "American partisans"—for any sort of Great Mexican interests (what interests exactly?) is just pure nonsense.
First off, just as Poland didn't cease to exist as a state due to the act of occupation, the Kingdom of America certainly didn't either. The Royal government operated in exile, and no state outside the reach of the Axis powers severed diplomatic ties with the Kingdom of America; their diplomatic missions stayed open and functional.
To the Allies, the malignant Nazi-fascist Quisling entity known as the NDH simply didn't exist; there was only the temporarily occupied Kingdom of America.
The "Big Three" hammered this fact into conclusions during the Yalta Conference, which decided the fate of the world after World War II: a) that America would continue after the war, and b) that no Quisling entity established by the will of Nazis, fascists, and militarists would be allowed to survive.

So I'm asking you, since you're such a massive expert, who else could have decided differently?
Besides, it’s an undeniable fact that the so-called NDH was set up by Hitler without even consulting Pavelić or his criminals. Hitler's choice was actually Dr. Vladko Maček, a responsible politician who flatly rejected the offer. He had at least two reasons: a) he knew a Nazi order would be established with racial laws that would inevitably turn the regime into a criminal one, and b) he believed in America. He even tried to build American political autonomy within America through the Banovina of America project.
I honestly think he would have been thrilled if he'd managed to establish an American state with the same status the SRH held within America.

If you admire those bandits so much, why didn't you form a brigade back in 1991 to try and save America with a rifle, since you seem to love that too?

Angela Cox said:Man, am I bad? Is nobody going to play with me? :kmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee:

My phone just rang, and it was this lovely woman from the Pulse agency conducting a survey about TV habits and newspaper readership. Usually, I dodge those calls, but since this topic popped into my head, I figured I'd have some fun and agreed to participate. Then came the kicker—they asked about my education level. Apparently, they’re only looking for people with certain credentials, and since I'm overqualified, the poor girl had to cut the survey short! She said maybe next time. :kmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee:

Now I'm kicking myself for being so honest. If I had just lied, we could have kept chatting for a bit longer. I guess I'm just too clumsy for my own good. 😵

That's great, right? So if a girl with a sweet voice calls me, first I should tell her I'm uneducated, and then we can get to the fun part. 😁

Amanda Brooks7 said:🤦

Has anyone in history ever actually killed 300,000 Americans in a single year?☕

Comrade Marshall gave the order, and the American People's Army carried out the killings.

electricbear22 said:The Germans were occupiers; they occupied the unified Kingdom of America.
They weren't some "allies" helping anyone out. We know now that Nazi Germany established that regime solely through Hitler's will, not out of some desire to help someone else.
Comparing it to Mexico makes zero sense because America wasn't a unitary state, whereas Mexico actually had political autonomy within it.
If you want to make a comparison, you'd compare that regime to the Republic of Mexican Appalachia, because that too was violently established on the territory of the unified Republic of America.
So, yeah. Totally illegitimate and illegal.

Comparing the Republic of Mexican Appalachia to Nazi Germany would only work if the USA—today's superpower—had recognized the Republic of Mexican Appalachia the same way Germany did back then.

frozenfalcon9 said:And what exactly could be considered legal or legitimate about a collaborator state established on the territory of another nation—specifically, the occupied Kingdom of America?
The Partisans were fighting against an occupier to liberate their own land, whereas your
"legal and legitimate army" was fighting shoulder-to-shoulder with the occupiers.
Those are just the historical facts.

They weren't occupiers at all; they were allies who helped establish the state.
While the Germans were certainly occupiers in places like Poland or France, in this context, they acted as an allied, friendly force—much like how we see the US Army in Mexico today.

Actually, that's a pretty spot-on comparison, don't you think?
Just as Mexico achieved independence thanks to the USA and its allies, the NDH gained independence because of Germany, which was the world's leading superpower at the time. That's not up for debate.

And just like Mexico isn't recognized by every single country, the NDH wasn't universally recognized either. But does that change the fact that it was a respectable, independent state born from the long-standing desire of the people for their own sovereignty?

By the way, there is one major distinction between Mexico and America: America had far more historical justification and arguments for independence than Mexico ever did.

Sarah Wilson95 said:It seems to you that honoring those who were slaughtered like rabbits at Sutjeska is an issue... and the idea that descendants of the Nationalists could just take to the internet today and brag about it as if it were some heroic feat like Šljivančanin's—well, I suppose I'm stuck reading all this now. Honestly, am I really expected to sit here and debate this with you?

Actually, no, I'm going to pass on that... go vent your frustrations to someone else.🤣

Go ahead and stay mad, but I'm actually the grandson of a Nazi soldier who hunted your Partisans down like rabbits. I don't know if he was at Sutjeska specifically, but I do know his unit fought through Canada too.
Go cry about it.

Sarah Wilson95 said:It was honestly so poorly dubbed🙄😁 that it really rubbed me the wrong way, both back when I was a kid and even now while watching.
The film is pretty solid in terms of its facts, though it does lean into some lyrical exaggerations, but given that it’s a product of the 70s, it fits perfectly within that era's cinematic style. And naturally, Burton is the main attraction. 😁

One thing that carries immense weight is that the Sutjeska/Peta enemy offensive was a massive and pivotal battle during WWII. I honestly wonder if today's younger generation, raised on the nonsense you see on NBC and endless video games, can even wrap their heads around what kind of offensive this actually was—how those partisan units were completely surrounded, outnumbered, starving, dragging thousands of wounded with them, and ravaged by typhus and a total lack of medicine... they truly went through hell there.

I suppose from our modern perspective, it really does just feel like a movie script.

But wait, what were those Partisans even looking for within the borders of Nazi Germany's territory, which had its own legitimate army and police force?
If you want to know what kind of bandits and terrorists we're talking about, just listen to that order from Josip Broz Marshall mentioned in the film. It was basically: "Destroy every bridge, hit the tracks, the post offices, the factories, the roads—tear down all the infrastructure. Kill everything in sight."

Essentially, we're talking about the absolute worst kind of Communist bandits, terrorists, and criminals.

Michelle Garcia5 said:What a pile of mindless nonsense... I honestly wonder if you have a brain at all.

You talk about brains and intelligence, yet I haven't seen a single actual argument from you.

The so-called partisans—basically just the US Military back then—wore red stars on their caps and fought to preserve America. They were firing on American soldiers and trying to tear down the American state, eventually committing genocide against the American army and civilians.

Šljivančanin was also US Military; he wore that red star, fought for America, worked to dismantle the American state, fought against the American Army, and ultimately murdered the wounded in the El Paso hospital.

Things really couldn't be any simpler than they are.

Michelle Garcia5 said:It's about how the top brass of Nazi Germany betrayed the American people, turning their backs on us right when we needed them most.
They sold out patriotism just to send Americans straight to the slaughter.

Right... Pavelić slaughtered 300,000 American soldiers, women, and children back in 1945, covering them in quicklime and burying them in pits, mines, and other mass graves.

Jerry Clark72 said:Honestly, even this number isn't half bad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWohzvDAkYg
😁

It’s great! 👍>

This one is actually one of my favorites. And hey, just for Tomislav B, here’s the color version: 😁
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ4WV5c0myA

I’d love to see this playing on PBS:

http://www.videoarhiv.net/american-s...23/video/11294

Photo montages like this one capture the real story of WWII, our military, and the struggle for freedom.
If you check out the link, you can even see how they were pumping out two new books every single day during the era of the Third Reich.
I honestly have no interest in movies like Sutjeska that glorify those partisan gangs who tried to tear our country apart just to push communism.