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Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
hollowmoose21 said:Look, man, don't get worked up. You gotta stay cool. I'm just trying to warn you: don't get too cozy thinking this investment is bulletproof. Keep your eyes peeled—I literally just bought a new pair of glasses for this reason. 😁). And my gut tells me things are gonna get messy here too. When governments get backed into a corner, they act like cornered rats. They start making desperate, insane moves. Honestly, they're already doing it 😬
I'm not even gonna touch the whole paper money vs precious metals debate; you already know where I stand.
But the fate of precious metals in America, the European Union, the USA, AU, or Singapore? Now *that* is worth a real conversation. 😍


I get it, everything is fine—I just wanted to suggest that you might all be worrying a bit too much😉........especially regarding the whole cartridges vs. metallurgy topic........what matters more will be the application of a triple S strategy....😍
imho
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
I’ve bought silver and I’m holding it off the books... so what exactly is Linić going to do about it, if you can even call it that?😂.........he’ll never lay eyes on that silver.🤣.....and when—or if—I decide to sell, it’ll go to someone who actually understands the difference between Linić's bonds and physical silver......
😍
besides, in this part of the world, we've seen six different countries and twenty different currencies cycle through in the last 90 years......yet gold and silver still hold value for some kid down the street.....unlike those mighty banknotes that were once considered "precious," but now nobody even remembers their names...😉
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
hollowmoose21 said:Jesus, talk about a total nightmare. Even I couldn't dream up a doom scenario this dark. 🤣
Jokes aside, what really keeps me up at night is the fact that there's nowhere to run. Because like Armstrong said:
Government is closing EVERY escape route for capital. It will confiscate everything possible.

My friend, I think we’ve officially reached the fourth domino...😍😍

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qoq9...layer_embedded
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Melissa Sanchez17 said:I had a nagging feeling you'd pop up and say something like this. Just last Friday, everyone was screaming short USD
long Euro 😍

not Friday... we'll see when Monday rolls around.😍
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Melissa Sanchez17 said:http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...for-funds.html

especially when you're messing around with the Euro.

That’s certainly true when you consider the Euro...😍
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Given that silver supply can't keep up with demand, I fully expect it to do more than just hold its value—it’s going to skyrocket. By then, everyone will be working for Mirando Mrsić and pulling in about $220 a month...😍

It’s simple logic—those of you who think there’s enough silver out there actually have too much, while the rest of us know there’s far too little........😂😂😂
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
neondriver5 said:I’m not sure if we just rattled the cage of the gold bugs, but I can’t remember the last time gold jumped 3.5 percent in a single day.😍
Man, if I had a position right now... I'd be shorting this move in a heartbeat.

One more time: does anyone know of any reliable US brokers that offer trading on gold ETFs? Maybe even some options.
This is like taking candy from a baby.

To all you skeptics out there: keep coming back—and preferably in larger numbers next time.😂😂😂

As for those "safe" bonds you want to snatch out of your kids' mouths... here is your opening. Just be brave.😍NYSE; Goldman Sachs, 4.83 USD (-7.47%)—go all in.
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
They’re playing games when I tell you... they knew exactly what that Democratic Party report looked like before they ever released it to the public...............

Take a look at this manipulation:

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Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Patrick Moore3 said:Are we back to talking about cartels again?
...or is demand just spiking so hard that the market finally outpaced them? 😁


So you're telling me—quite nicely, I might add—that the cartel is driving gold prices up while pushing the dollar down...😂😂😂

Which part of that didn't click?
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Melissa Sanchez17 said:honestly, I'm just messing with you. It's all just numbers on a screen anyway, so...

It's all fine... a little humor doesn't hurt.😍

But have you seen how the cartel is manipulating gold against the Fed?😂
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
By the way, gold is trading above $1,600—silver is at $28.41. 😍

Gold
1599.40
+45.29 +2.91%

US Dollar
83.061
-0.045 -0.06%
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
I don't share the view that there's a cartel targeting gold or silver exclusively—but I also can't agree with my colleague that there isn't downward manipulation happening... I am convinced that Americans and their largest investment banks manipulate everything (both up and down) 🙂... from gold and silver to commodities, oil, currencies, stock markets, interest rates, and even statistical reports... everything...

As for gold, I see it climbing right after bad economic data rolled in from all over the world... moving from $1,548 to $1,585 USD 😉

And for crimsonranger38, I have a little something special:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/big-re...sentation-ever
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
crimsonranger38 said:I didn't, really. I just gave him a fair shot to prove he wasn't some troll—someone who isn't worth the energy in the first place. The response was exactly what you'd expect given the quality of his original post. 😍

I’ll go ahead and agree with what was written. Honestly, it’s a relief to finally see an end to all that fanaticism. 😍

If you look back at the last decade, gold has been one of the absolute heavy hitters in terms of performance. On average, it’s been pulling in about a 20% return every single year. Honestly, hats off to anyone smart enough to load up on it back then. You can only imagine how much a grandparent is smiling today if they were buying gold for their grandkids when it was sitting at $1,900 an ounce. Now, will gold keep delivering those 20% annual returns for the next ten years? Maybe. But personally, I think the odds of that happening are slim to none. We’ve just witnessed a set of market conditions we haven't seen in the last decade. We're approaching a point where gold prices might just sit flat for a while. I was checking the Asian markets this morning—they're in the red. Crude oil and gold are down too, though Treasury yields are climbing. You have to adapt to these shifts and accept them for what they are. You can't just ignore reality and pretend we're living in some... alternate universe.

Quote : The Dollar posted its biggest monthly gain since 2011 in May. It actually managed to outpace bonds, stocks, and commodities for the first time this year. Think of it like a sturdy old pickup truck pulling ahead of a fleet of sports cars during a massive storm. As the sovereign debt situation across the United States spiraled, everyone started looking for a safe harbor, and they all ended up running straight toward the greenback.

Respect to anyone who got into gold back in 2008...
Treasury bonds are arguably the largest bubble of them all—they might hold up for a few more years, sure—but by 2015? Things are going to look quite different...
A price correction for gold after jumping from $1,450 to $1,923 is perfectly normal...
Inflation can happen even without wage growth—something we are already witnessing...
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
crimsonranger38 said:Inflation is doing its thing, as per usual. But don't go holding your breath waiting for double-digit numbers. It’s just not going to happen. If the winds shift and things actually start looking different, I'll be the first one to give you a heads-up. 😍

Warren Buffett

The miners? They’re just sitting there, coiled like a spring, waiting for the signal to strike. Right now, China is the undisputed heavyweight champion of the commodities markets. When you bundle them together with all those other fast-growing economies, you get this massive pressure cooker effect: prices skyrocket whenever we see even a hint of growth, only to face these tiny, pathetic corrections the moment anyone gets nervous. But here’s the real kicker in this whole saga: with the Eurozone sliding into its current deep crisis, Chinese exports are starting to stall out. To compensate for that export slump, the Communist Party is already signaling a massive new investment cycle to jumpstart things. In plain English? We’re looking at even more capital misallocation.

The policy of malinvestment only works for so long. Eventually, debt hits a critical mass—a point of no return where you simply can't borrow any more—and that's when all those bad investments start collapsing like a house of cards. When that happens, expect a total meltdown in the commodities markets. The current model they're running in China isn't sustainable even in the medium term. They’re just using massive income redistribution to kick the can down the road and delay necessary economic restructuring. It's a losing game. Just like in the Eurozone, the cost of maintaining this charade rises with every single passing day.

Warren Buffett

Maybe, but all this quasi-money they’re printing doesn't actually trickle down into people's wallets. Because of that, we aren't going to see today's moderate core inflation turn into some kind of runaway gallop. What we're really seeing is just a series of inflationary and deflationary swings across the commodities markets. If you look at the total money supply in the economy from the start of the Great Depression up until now, the growth rate hasn't changed much compared to the decade and a half before the crash hit. It's the same old story. This is what I keep coming back to: the inflation the United States and Europe dealt with back in the '70s isn't comparable to what we face today. We simply don't have an inflationary income policy, and without that, you can't trigger a true inflationary spiral.

How can fiat currency be in a bubble? I’m a little confused there. In my view, that's impossible because its real value is being eroded by inflation every single day. Then there's the issue of people treating gold as something it isn't; they're basically predicting future inflationary moves based on quasi-money. What else do you call people who can't wrap their heads around what's happened over the last three and a half years—events that have already proven most economic theories and schools of thought to be completely hollow? Even today, American universities are teaching kids about a monetary system that effectively ceased to exist nearly two decades ago.

Since gold and silver have essentially become paper instruments, it seems a bit silly to cry manipulation when prices drop, yet claim everything is legitimate when they rise. Both could just as easily be results of the same tinkering. And what actually *is* gold? One thing is certain: it's an unproductive asset, and its role as an inflation hedge hasn't held up for a long time, given how far the price has decoupled from actual inflation.

On what fundamentals is gold worth $8,000 or $16,000? If you're willing to share, how exactly are you measuring its "real" value? From where I'm sitting, I see production stagnation dating back to the end of the last century, which is a massive factor for gold prices, much like it is for crude oil. It's funny, though: when the price drops, everyone screams manipulation, but when it climbs, suddenly it's just the "untainted market" doing its job. Then, when I call out the cult-like behavior, people get offended. 😍

Warren Buffett

They say hope is the last thing to die. Or so the old folks claim. Some are saying... well, you know how people talk. 😍

Warren Buffett
Mary Asks:
If you look at the history books, silver is criminally undervalued. It’s an afterthought, really—lagging behind gold in almost every metric, and even more so when you compare it to everything else out there. Just take a look back at the era of Ancient Rome...
So, if I’ve actually grasped this correctly—the market hasn't been able to pin down a realistic price for silver and gold since the days of the Roman Empire. 😍

Well, there you have it. It’ll take another five to ten years before we actually see the verdict. 😍

Taking the total money supply—I’m not even sure where you’re pulling those numbers from, frankly—and trying to convert it into some supposed "real" gold price just proves you haven't got a clue what you're talking about. It's a fundamental misunderstanding of the math. Suddenly, nobody cares about hedging against inflation anymore; instead, you're all busy comparing the price of a completely non-productive commodity to the cost of the actual goods and services that make modern life possible. Since when did an increase in the money supply stop being a direct hit to the purchasing power of the dollar?

An investor recently offered my grandmother $100,000 for her house. To her, that was an absolute insult. She reckons that place is worth millions because she’s spent thirty years living inside those walls—every bittersweet memory and dusty corner included. Of course, her valuation has zero basis in market reality; it’s pure, unadulterated emotion. It’s fascinating, really. Some people have reached a point where they practically tuck their gold bars into bed at night. They spend their days performing this daily ritual of self-delusion, trying to convince themselves that their stash will eventually be worth ten times its current value just because they believe the world is going to pivot back to the gold standard. 😍

How can you even have a serious debate with someone who retreats all the way back to the Roman Empire just to argue that the gold they’re hiding under their mattress isn't actually worth $10,000—or maybe $100,000—when, in reality, those USD bills don't mean a thing to them anyway? And then, the second I use the word "sect," people take offense. Please. It is nothing else but a sect. If you're going to cling to this theory that gold is the ultimate hedge against inflation, do yourself a favor: pick 1800 as your starting point, adjust for today, and then look at the math. You'll see pretty quickly that gold is massively overpriced at current levels. Comparing it to stock market indices is just intellectually lazy; a hunk of metal simply hasn't performed anywhere near what the components of the Dow Jones Industrial Average have achieved. I’ve probably bruised some egos here. I know there are plenty of people holding onto their gold, dreaming of a world that reverted to how things were a century ago. Well, newsflash. 😍

Well, if you say so. 🙂

🙂

I assume you meant "can't," but let's be real: they can, and they do. It happens all the time. But markets aren't built on delusions forever; eventually, gravity kicks in and forces a correction. Everything gets overvalued sometimes—gold and silver included. We've seen it before, where the market had to snap back by 20% or 25% just to find its footing again.

That’s the truth. I also suspect they'll try to navigate this using the strategy Ray Dalio outlines—but then again, you know what Bill Gross used to say... there are really only three ways out of this: growth, inflation, or simply wiping out the creditors. Given how slim the chances for actual growth look right now, we're essentially left with those other two options. 😍
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Gold allows you to acquire silver at an incredibly favorable ratio—and once you have that silver, the possibilities are endless.😂😂😂
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
brightviper48 said:Does that imply physical real estate can't be part of a bubble either... or perhaps even physical Lukovica tulip bulbs?

A quality Lukovica could never be part of a bubble...🤣
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
Well, now...
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
hollowmoose21 said:So you think everyone's gonna lose their minds and start panicking, huh? Is that your big plan? 😁

Between that and an extended bank holiday...😉
Anything could happen at this point.
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
hollowmoose21 said:Alright, fine...
Instead of just playing mathematician with all those zeros, it’d be way more useful to look at ratios. For example, how many kilos of gold does it take to buy wheat, oil, gas, real estate, or the Dow? Look at how those ratios have shifted over the years and stack them up against where we are today.

He’s probably better off not watching... especially over the next couple of years...🤣

But did anyone else catch that semi-truck full of cartridges arriving under heavy escort at the Federal Reserve?
Gold: Past, Present, and Future in Other Investment Types ·
I can't say for certain if I've misread the signals here—but the gold-to-silver ratio seems to be pointing toward an early bull run for silver... though there is a very real chance I am completely off base.
It wouldn't be the first time, nor will it be the last—but I'm sticking to my guns on this one and we'll just have to see how it plays out... unless, of course, things take a different turn.😂