Sanctions on Russia
in War in Ukraine ·
They rerouted all that Gas destined for the European Union—straight into the trash.
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Chris Williams said:Yeah... "debunked on the forum"... listen to you... such a hotbed of information...
Ukraine will never be the same again; that part is settled.
No matter how you look at it, they've lost both the war and the territory. It’s nothing historically unusual. Just watch how Europe pulses, breathes, and metabolizes, and observe how borders are constantly shifting. Time lapse.
The few decades we spend on this planet simply aren't enough to truly grasp how fluid borders are and how nothing is ever truly a permanent status quo.
And I suppose you're underestimating Russia.
Mind you, don't go thinking I'm rooting for them; I'm not, nor am I rooting for a West led by the Satans of the deep state.
I find myself rooting for the little guy, everywhere—those who suffer when, as Balasevic might say, the kings play at war.
But then again, humans have always fought wars because we are an inherently aggressive, predatory species. I think these phenomena need to be viewed through a much broader lens, casualtiger2. Not just from a high altitude, but looking deep into our past.
From that perspective, every empire eventually collapsed in some horrific war; none of them survived indefinitely.
And no shift in the global order has ever occurred without the destruction of cities, the killing of people, and the redrawing of maps.
If there are no negotiations and no lifting of sanctions, we are going to witness a massive crisis in Western nations. Someone who is well-funded will likely navigate it with a moderate amount of stress, but for the poor and middle class, it will be devastating.
We'll see who was right in a year's time.... or perhaps even by January 2023.
Ryan Morales4 said:The European Union is rolling out its fifth round of sanctions against Russia.
Fine.
I agree.
How many rounds of sanctions are there supposed to be in total?
Roger Fowler said:I mean, if those "American partners" include places like Puerto Rico, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Honduras, Haiti, Colombia, and Panama, I wouldn't even consider moving there unless someone was paying me a fortune to deal with it all.
brightheron64 said:Well, if we're looking at a depth of about 330 feet, the water pressure is roughly 145 psi (since every 33 feet of depth adds about 15 psi). How on earth are you supposed to push gas through a line spanning 746 miles when you're dealing with only about 145 psi of pressure?
According to the specs for NS2, the inlet pressure can reach up to nearly 4,000 psi, with an outlet minimum of around 1,450 psi. It might not be much of an issue if the hole is just the size of a button, but if it's actually larger—like that massive geyser effect we witnessed—how could the system possibly function at all?...🤔
Melissa Rivera5 said:Man, the Norwegians were basically pushing those pipelines just so they’d have someone to sell electricity to.
brightheron64 said:But how on earth can the pressure be considered stable if there's a massive hole in the line?...🤔
Melissa Rivera5 said:I guess it's just basically everyone selling gas, anywhere. Period. No two ways about it.
Jamie Watson4 said:It’s pretty clear that the pipelines sitting idle have been sabotaged, whereas the operational ones—like the TurkStream line—remain untouched.
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Jason Roberts2 said:I’d still argue the point though, because technology has come such a long way lately that you can pinpoint exactly who was there and who carried out this "sabotage"—every single submarine is tracked constantly, so we know where they are and which direction they're heading.
Another thing is that, say, the Russians have the footage or some kind of proof, but Brussels has basically banned the EU from releasing it, so we're left in the dark; if it really was the Russians, they would have flashed that evidence in our faces by now.
Melissa Rivera5 said:Sorry, but what do you mean "swallowing crap" regarding NS1/2? The West probably detonated it themselves, honestly. It feels like a move to send a message to Russia that they're dead serious about ending all future trade. It's a clean break from Russia, not some half-hearted attempt. Plus, it serves as a perfect excuse to ramp up security for similar infrastructure. 🙂
Gerald Torres84 said:In my view, they do have that right. Why shouldn't they? The Israelis are trying to block it, though I am not entirely certain of their reasoning. Regardless, we are drifting away from the main subject here.
Chloe Jackson15 said:More like Bolshevik oligarchs! At the end of the day, their entire political philosophy boils down to one simple rule: "Give everyone else just enough to shut them up, while we keep everything else for ourselves."
Grace Jones86 said:Are you really trying to force me to say that one is just getting splashed with lukewarm water (and seeing a slight dip in already massive GDPs), while the other is watching Western civilization be destroyed? ☕
Is this how we’re going to discuss things? By stripping everything out of context?
I stated clearly that the West certainly wouldn't sacrifice itself for some Ukraine, regardless of whatever symbolic value this conflict supposedly holds for the West itself.
That is an... axiom. I don't see what there is to debate here. 🤦
edit: if we're using the COVID comparison... that's like saying the mandates were excessive.
When you wrote that back in the spring of 2020, you were risking having the mob show up at your door via your IP address. That was a proven fact then, and it remains true today.
Just like today, there is clearly panic and madness surrounding free thought regarding Ukraine.
But hysteria is one thing, and rational thought is another. Hysteria ruins everything.
wearyheron5 said:Just when you think you've heard every possible nonsense under the sun, here comes someone spinning a psychotic web involving war, hygiene, Satanism, and gender reassignment surgery.
That's a diagnosis right there. Harsh.
gentlemoose57 said:Fantastic—now, instead of the Ukrainians just halting right at the border with Russia once they liberate territory, I really think they should push even further.
George Robinson43 said:If anyone had any lingering doubts about whether The Kremlin has simply polished up those old-school USSR communists in a total Brezhnev style...
Robert Cooper9 said:I honestly think they’re terrified of even attempting a launch—it’s not like an S-300 where one stray missile causes minor damage. They’ll likely feel forced to launch from Baikonur just to ensure that if things go sideways, they don't end up causing too much collateral damage on their own "friendly" side.😉)
gentlerider7 said:Russia wants the whole LPR and DPR territory
"The regions making up the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics are going to be folded right into the Russian Federation, using those 2014 borders where they originally recognized their independence, according to the Associated Press citing Karine Jean-Pierre from the White House.
“The Russian Federation recognizes the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics within their 2014 borders,” the presidential press secretary put it.
And get this—when asked what the plan is for the parts of the DPR where the Russian Federation hasn't actually managed to grab control yet, Karine Jean-Pierre just brushed it off, saying they'll "have to be liberated."..
https://www-gazeta-ru.translate.goog..._x_tr_pto=wapp
silentsurfer3 said:Look, I've been saying this since day one, and people just laughed at me—like, how can a country with only 40k soldiers even dream of starting a war with Ukraine? Meanwhile, those Iskanders are staring right at Poland.
Honestly, Lukashenko is toast the second his little buddy falls.