Michael Davis9 said:Exactly!
There is no such thing as "have to."
When it comes to Russia using limited nuclear weapons, NATO and the West essentially have three paths to choose from:
1) A direct strike on Russia -> a clash between nuclear superpowers -> total nuclear holocaust.
2) Total economic and diplomatic isolation of Russia. We’re talking about a scenario where anyone buying a single grain of wheat or a molecule of gas from them is treated with the same level of isolation as Russia itself. It's possible that China and India might agree to stay on the Western side of that divide, though it's unlikely they'd go much further than that. Either way, the world would definitely enter a new era of intense bloc-based division, likely without any non-aligned nations left in the middle.
3) Doing absolutely nothing.
To me, Option 2 seems like the most probable and logical route. Option 1 carries a terrible risk-to-reward ratio for the West, and Option 3 is just too weak to be viable.
That logic only holds water IF the territory being targeted isn't covered by a nuclear umbrella—whether that's their own or through a military alliance.
Plus, I highly doubt Putin is quite deranged enough to start dropping nukes on major capitals across Asia...
I mean, I feel like you're missing a ton of options here. Like, two isn't exactly a massive number when we're talking about WMDs, and honestly, that whole scenario seems pretty much impossible anyway, I guess.
Michael Davis9 said:Exactly!
There is no such thing as "have to."
When it comes to Russia using limited nuclear weapons, NATO and the West essentially have three paths to choose from:
1) A direct strike on Russia -> a clash between nuclear superpowers -> total nuclear holocaust.
2) Total economic and diplomatic isolation of Russia. We’re talking about a scenario where anyone buying a single grain of wheat or a molecule of gas from them is treated with the same level of isolation as Russia itself. It's possible that China and India might agree to stay on the Western side of that divide, though it's unlikely they'd go much further than that. Either way, the world would definitely enter a new era of intense bloc-based division, likely without any non-aligned nations left in the middle.
3) Doing absolutely nothing.
To me, Option 2 seems like the most probable and logical route. Option 1 carries a terrible risk-to-reward ratio for the West, and Option 3 is just too weak to be viable.
That logic only holds water IF the territory being targeted isn't covered by a nuclear umbrella—whether that's their own or through a military alliance.
Plus, I highly doubt Putin is quite deranged enough to start dropping nukes on major capitals across Asia...
I mean, what is all of Europe actually doing besides the UK and France? Honestly, if you don't count them, it feels like nothing is happening unless you consider NATO falling apart. At that point, Russia basically owns all of Eurasia.
Andrew Booth29 said:If that were to happen, Russia would find itself staring down the barrel of total isolation—it's a terrifying prospect. They really need to wrap their heads around that reality, because trust me, it is far from a cheap or easy way out.
I mean, honestly, the answer to WMDs just has to be military. I guess you can't really reason with someone like Putin—it’s not like he respects anything other than raw, physical force. There's just no other way. We probably need to show him a demonstration of power that's totally clear and absolute. Maybe that's the only language that actually works.