Eric Wells3 said:I've always found it pretty strange... how can two separate consciousnesses actually exist at the exact same time?
I am the subject, and to my Self, you are the object. But it works both ways. To your own Self, you are the subject, and I’m just the object...
So, who actually comes out on top between us two...🤔
And in the end, doesn't that just prove how limited the concept of "I" actually is... especially when we're both claiming the exact same "I"?
Self becoming an object of awareness... that's self-awareness.
That’s why every single person carries their own Self and self-awareness...
The naturalist’s circular reasoning stems from a fundamental failure to interpret reality correctly. They don't actually perceive anything through the Self; instead, they just conflate consciousness and self-awareness with the objects they perceive. Since they claim both the mind and the external world are just "nature," this circularity becomes an inevitable—yet completely broken—logical loop. On top of that, the naturalist ignores the law of non-contradiction. You can't say A is the same as non-A. But by merging the identity of the Self with the identity of nature into one single entity, they create nothing but a total aporia...
The core issue is that we’re stuck in a loop... these two concepts just end up defining themselves through each other. It's circular logic at its worst...
Look at neurophysiology research. Since explaining brain activity is just an expression of thought—which is inherently part of the Self—these scientists are basically trying to explain consciousness using consciousness. And because these brain processes are just natural phenomena, they’re trapped in circular reasoning... they're trying to explain nature through nature. Both issues are fundamentally unexplainable. At least for now...
S.