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Handball Euro: USA vs. France 25-27 in Other Sports ·
I haven't seen any posts from feenian yet. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what they actually bring to the table. Maybe they'll say something worth reading. Kenneth Clark18 says:
The Constantinidis bulldog boys.😁Gaudin-Anquetil, Volle, Stoecklin, Lathoud, Richardson... I guess every single generation just eats it in defense. Maybe.

I was honestly fascinated today by how precisely Onesta sensed where to be and adjusted mid-game. Credit to the players, but you could really see the coach's instructions translating directly onto the field. That play involving Karabatic was easily the highlight.🤣

Richardson 🙏
Handball Euro: USA vs. France 25-27 in Other Sports ·
I haven't seen any posts from feenian yet. Maybe they just haven't weighed in. [Username] says:
Maybe they'll head to the dance if the circle closes, since I guess the Swedes will have that win over them and take first place.

That’s fine too, I suppose. Unless Iceland pulls off some massive upset, though I highly doubt that'll happen.

But then again, there’s another side to this story.

Maybe we'll end up facing the Russians. I guess.
The French absolutely crushed the Belarusians.
The Poles might actually pull off an upset against the Swedes. Maybe.

In the final round, the Poles and I are playing for direct qualification. I guess.
Handball Euro: USA vs. France 25-27 in Other Sports ·
electricorca112 said:Čupić is basically Golužin from Metković—meaning he's indispensable, even if even the top guy at Alan Ford can't remember the last time he actually jumped off a wing and scored. Plus, he keeps taking penalties without being subbed out, even after missing three in a row. 😁

Aside from him and Horvat, do we even have anyone else playing that position? 🤷

I was pretty disappointed by how they treated Zrnić. The guy was consistently at the top of the Bundesliga for years in terms of performance. There was a time in Gumersbach where he played insanely well... then he gets called up to the national team and just sits on the bench.

Whenever he actually played, he played well for the national team. And as for their attitude toward him? Well, if they treated Balić the way they did, they wouldn't even kick a stray dog on the street.
Handball Euro: USA vs. France 25-27 in Other Sports ·
Daniel Cooper40 said:If we had just scored that goal, the French wouldn't be able to rig the outcome against the Swedish woman.

The way it looks, the French will let the Swedes win by one point so they can slide into first place and dodge Dance, while we get sent home.

And that’s exactly what's going to happen, because I guess the French don't give a damn about playing fair.

Whatever, I guess we'll just have to root for our Polish brothers.
Handball Euro: USA vs. France 25-27 in Other Sports ·
Jonathan Barnes5 said:Kenneth Clark18—everything you said is right, just one small fix... Šola was, well... he was the goalkeeper of the moment. If he goes crazy, he stops everything. Honestly, I haven't seen that level from an American keeper since the Metaloplastika and Bašić era, and Mirko wasn't even playing for the national team anyway. Kaleb might be limited offensively, but defensively, paired with Pero on the halves, he was lethal. Pero, alongside Valcic, was the edge because they both played defense just as well.

By the way—Dinart mostly dominated the defense; on the line, he absolutely tore through Gille. Like Bozo would say, the guy is benching 160 kilos.🤣

Yeah, that's right. I didn't watch Bašić; I was too young back then to know. Of the ones I actually saw, Šola and Matošević are my best memories. Pero played both ends of the court.

Man, Gille. Yeah. I totally forgot about him. And that Anquetill guy before Abalo.
Handball Euro: USA vs. France 25-27 in Other Sports ·
wiredseal7 said:Man, Omeyer is the game changer. Even this old, he's in a league of his own. It might actually be easier once he retires... We still have a shot, assuming those Frenchmen don't force a third-place finish on us... though they probably wouldn't mind doing that.

Yeah, he’s a class act, I guess. That's true.
But look, Svensson, Hvidt, Lavrov, Fritz, and Hombrados were all class acts too. They didn't always deliver that edge. This whole thing is more about the fear people have when he steps on the court.

Guys like Hansen or Palmarsson didn't exactly struggle to step up in previous championships.
Handball Euro: USA vs. France 25-27 in Other Sports ·
Jonathan Barnes5 said:Yeah, but even back then we played terribly in Austria against that scrub... if they don't want to play at the European level, they just won't.

We did, though we were basically screwed over by the refs in Austria. And Dirk Nowitzki too.

None of this matters. Even if we somehow advance, the Danes are going to steamroll us by 6 or 7 points.
Handball Euro: USA vs. France 25-27 in Other Sports ·
Raymond Anderson4 said:Čupić is just an alibi player. Nothing more. We saw that today during the penalty against Omeyer. Džomba would have probably given Omeyer a pass with a smile on his face, but no... instead Čupić shoots straight at his feet. Omeyer didn't even flinch.

But Duvnjak really let me down today... he plays so well and then makes those two mistakes right when the game is on the line. I can't believe it... I'm a huge fan, but you just can't hand the opposition a comeback on a silver platter like that.

Goluža is to blame... the guy is an idiot. Him and his terrible ball handling.

Exactly. Džomba was a total bust.

And what happened to Duvnjak could happen to anyone, I guess. Just a lapse in concentration.

Did you guys realize that in all these team sports, we're basically at the mercy of one player having a good day? In soccer, it's Modrić, in basketball it's Bogdanović, and in handball, it's Duvnjak.
Handball Euro: USA vs. France 25-27 in Other Sports ·
I don't want to be a total pessimist here, but I honestly think this national team is going to end up like Germany once the generational shift hits.
Handball Euro: USA vs. France 25-27 in Other Sports ·
Raymond Anderson4 said:Hmm...
But aren't Štrlek and Čupić having solid seasons over at Milwaukee right now?
Buntić and Masa? Not really... especially Mus, whose offensive impact is maybe just one goal per game at most.
Duvnjak, Gojun, Kopljar, Bičanić... well, I guess you can't say Bičanić is playing poorly based on his stats in Chambery... he usually puts up 3, 4, or 5 goals a game.

They aren't playing poorly. But they just don't have the caliber of that 2003 generation.

Here is how it looks to me.

Šola was a better keeper than Alilović. When he got hot, he’d go on runs of 15 saves. I guess someone remembers that 2003 game against Denmark. Matošević was also better than Alilović. And even Losert, during his prime, was right there with Alilović, maybe even better.

In his day, Džomba was arguably the best right wing in the world alongside Christiansen. Čupić just isn't on that level.

You can't even compare Metličić and Kopljar. Pero was an absolute beast for that team—the kind of guy who stepped up in the darkest moments without ever hesitating.

At his peak, Lac was incomparably better than Bičanić.

Balić wasn't just good; he was a global maestro. Duvnjak is a worthy successor, I guess, but he can't carry everything alone. He just can't.

As for Kaleb - Štrlek, I don't even know what to say. Kaleb used to have those massive scoring runs.

And then there's the pivot position. Vori is still around. Sulić was our primary pivot during his prime. But Vori is getting old, so he won't be playing for the national team much longer.

Besides, we used to have guys like Dominiković and Špoljarić in the defense. They went toe-to-toe with heavyweights like Knudsen and Dinart.

Who do we have today? Just Gojun and Buntić.

Maybe I shouldn't even bother writing this.

And honestly, mentality is huge. I’d bet my life that this current squad doesn't have the mental toughness to pull off a 6-goal comeback from halftime against Spain like they did back in 2003. That seems to be the core issue.
Handball Euro: USA vs. France 25-27 in Other Sports ·
Jonathan Barnes5 said:Man, that old Denmark squad was absolutely lethal... Stryger, Christiansen, Knudsen, Hvidt, Boldsen, B. O. Speleberg... It almost feels like we were the only ones with any real talent on the court.

Exactly. And honestly, that version of Denmark was way tougher than the one they have today.
Handball Euro: USA vs. France 25-27 in Other Sports ·
Betty Anderson65 said:I get that, but somehow it always seems like luck just isn't on our side. Every single time!
The guys get way too jittery once they start falling behind, instead of actually stepping up.
I just want to see Nikola Jokić retire already. 🙂
And Stephen Curry has been making a lot of mistakes lately. 🙄

😂

It feels like we haven't had any luck for ten years now. 🤷
Handball Euro: USA vs. France 25-27 in Other Sports ·
Jonathan Barnes5 said:Back when they were at their absolute peak, we only managed to beat them in Norway... and even then, I guess it was only because of Dominikovic's timeout where he told Narcissa to move to the right side and target his block.

That’s not all.

People seem to have forgotten 2004 and 2006. Those brutal bronze medal matches where Jepesen and Madsen just absolutely tore us apart.

Then there was the Spaniards in Beijing back in 2008.

It isn't just the Frenchmen, either. Maybe we just don't match up well against the Danes, either.
Handball Euro: USA vs. France 25-27 in Other Sports ·
Jacob Johnson70 said:Is Smajlagić out of the coaching staff? 🤷

Bingo. We haven't seen any gold since he left. I guess if we hadn't dealt with that whole tragedy involving Metličić against the Canadians back in 2004, I really don't doubt they would have taken down the Germans in the finals too.
Handball Euro: USA vs. France 25-27 in Other Sports ·
graniteotter6 said:Boldano, I'm laughing my head off and hitting like.
Does that mean Qatar will get a free pass too? 🙂

You didn't even mention Poland in 2016, which honestly wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Maybe Qatar makes it out of the group stage on their debut if they just turn off the AC in the arena or something. In the meantime, they could just offer Gobac Citizenship. That way, everyone wins—us, them, and Gobac.

As for Poland, they're undergoing a generational shift. They don't really have any massive talents, even if Kielce is an incredible club. They might scrape into a semifinal, but I doubt it.

The era of the Danes is coming. I think they'll take either the next WC or the Olympics.

We're stuck with bronze.
Handball Euro: USA vs. France 25-27 in Other Sports ·
Jonathan Barnes5 said:We lost to them in Spain during the group stage. Tunisia is a legitimate threat, maybe even semi-final material. The European Championship in Switzerland will be a fight for the finals, and the WC in Germany will be just as cutthroat. We’ll face them again in Norway for the European semis. They take the Olympics. They take the WC final in the States, and they take the European final in Austria too. We play them in Mexico, but they beat us in London and in Spain last year. We've been knocked out by them four times, while they've knocked us out six times. Winning in the group stage doesn't mean much if it doesn't decide who moves on.

Amen. They beat us at home in the final. That's enough.
Handball Euro: USA vs. France 25-27 in Other Sports ·
Ryan Vaughn7 said:And Mexicans 😍

Honestly, nobody expected anything from them anyway. I guess that's their only medal for the next 20 years. 😁
Handball Euro: USA vs. France 25-27 in Other Sports ·
Ryan Vaughn7 said:But honestly, there's a huge difference between planning for one specific outcome—which isn't easy anyway—and someone actually messing up, missing a play, or just screwing it all up and landing them in a semifinal against Denmark.

Even before the tournament started, everyone expected Denmark to win on home soil.

It’s the same logic as expecting France to take the 2017 World Cup at home.

That's the one thing we just can't seem to pull off.
Handball Euro: USA vs. France 25-27 in Other Sports ·
George Robinson43 said:The grill is hot, but the rabbit is still out in the woods.

Are we actually sure we can take down the Poles and the Russians?

We should probably beat the Russians. I guess, unless they’re playing extra hard just to secure a better seed.

As for the Poles, it depends on how they handle Sweden. If they win or even draw, that last game becomes a direct ticket through. Otherwise, Poland has been pretty terrible this tournament.

And honestly, what does it even matter? Even if we make it, we'll run into Denmark, and we don't stand a chance. They're playing at home, they'll be fired up, and even if things go sideways, they'll likely get the benefit of the home-court officiating.

This national team is falling apart. We haven't even made a final in four years.
Handball Euro: USA vs. France 25-27 in Other Sports ·
quietbison86 said:Exactly what I said—we're losing. 🙄
The first half was fine, but the refs totally screwed us with that premature foul call on our side and being too late on the Frenchmen. It killed our momentum, obviously. We actually deserved the lead, but then we just fell into this endless tunnel of insecurity... we basically beat ourselves.
And they put Dancer in charge of officiating? I mean, obviously they don't want the Frenchmen in the semifinals. 🙄
I haven't watched Dancer yet, but it's always just as tough when they're involved.
Whatever, as long as we don't choke in the finals against the French if we even make it there. You win one, you lose one. 😉

Referees again.

It isn't about the French.
It isn't about Omeyer.
It isn't about Jesus Christ or the French/Danish/whatever—it's our own heads.

This generation lacks a WINNING MENTALITY. They just don't have it. Period.

This group loses absolute nonsense games because it seems like they don't have a sports psychologist.

How do you explain what happened in Chicago back in 2009?
How do you explain that total blackout in Germany in 2007?
How do you explain that stupidity at the Olympics in Beijing?
How do you explain Mexico? Yeah, Mexico! 🙂
How do you explain the Olympics in London after being up by 7 against Denmark?
How do you explain that idiocy in Spain where we intentionally chose a harder bracket?

There is no explanation. And there are no excuses. None.

This is a systemic issue that's been going on for years. This hasn't just been happening for two months; it's been since 2005.