Posts by Thomas Stewart97

sad but true said:Religious doctrine is one thing—actual practice is quite another. As if burning women alongside their husbands in India is some kind of grand achievement for civilization? 🤮

That’s exactly why I rely on logic—rather than religion or fairy tales.
Karma eventually catches up with everyone.🙂

wearygardener13 said:That isn't an option. You have exactly one choice—save just one of them and be done with it. There—you've effectively proven that human life is more valuable than animal life. 👋

That doesn't prove anything—reactions in those kinds of split-second scenarios are purely instinctive.
If we were talking about someone else's child or an adult, plenty of people would still instinctively jump to save their pet first. So, your theory completely falls apart.

Every life has equal value.🙂

wearygardener13 said:But hold on—my religion clearly states that killing animals for food is perfectly fine. To me, that's much more logical than being forced to survive on nothing but vegetables. Just because it doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean it applies to everyone. Logic is a tricky thing.

Your religion, among other things, has historically advocated for crusades and witch trials.
It stands to reason that a person should live their life without having to take the life of another creature.

wearygardener13 said:I am not talking about split-second impulses—you have plenty of time to reflect and make a conscious choice about what matters most. So, I am not referring to immediate, knee-jerk reactions.

Look, if it came down to it, I would choose a human being over my pet every single time—regardless of how much I love my animal. A human life carries more weight, significantly more 🙂 🙂

I would save the child first—and then I would go back for my pet, no matter what it took.
Every single life holds equal value—to suggest otherwise is just arrogant and distorted.

wearygardener13 said:Yeah—karma isn't tied to any specific religion, after all.🙄 😛

It’s connected to Hinduism, sure—but there are millions of people who follow Hindu traditions without actually believing in karma or reincarnation, simply because common sense tells them otherwise.
I don't think there's any chance that animals are being slaughtered just because of you without any consequences. Maybe it doesn't seem apparent in this lifetime, but there's plenty of time for things to balance out eventually.

wearygardener13 said:Yeah, human life is more valuable than animal life.

I asked Rachel Martinez11 about this, and they wouldn't give me an answer—so I'll ask you instead. Imagine you're faced with a choice where both your child and your pet are in danger, and you can only save one. Who are you choosing?

Most people would react purely on instinct—it all comes down to how attached you are to the individual. Honestly, anyone would likely grab their child first; it's just biological programming.
The real dilemma arises if you're choosing between a complete stranger and a pet. Believe it or not, plenty of people would actually prioritize their pet over someone they don't even know.

Personally, I don't believe human life holds more value. Every living being carries the same weight.

wearygardener13 said:Look, that might be how it works in your belief system—but it isn't mine. In my faith, eating animals is perfectly fine. Are you honestly suggesting your views hold more weight or truth than mine?

That isn't even about religion—it’s just a fundamental law of creation.
Everything comes full circle; everything has a price.
What goes around, comes around. Or, to put it simply... what you do eventually finds its way back to you.🙂

wearygardener13 said:There’s a slight flaw in that analogy—I’m not looking for some deep emotional bond with a pig; I just want to eat it and move on with my life.😕

Well, that sounds like a great way to build up some karma.🙂
Karma always collects its debts eventually.🙂

wearygardener13 said:that's just the job at hand 😕
—you know, some people don't have the luxury of choice. It’s easy to sit behind a keyboard and judge, but not everyone is that lucky. Honestly—if you have to choose between working in a slaughterhouse and watching your kids go hungry, most people will take the meatpacking job without a second thought. At the end of the day, human life holds more value than animal life. 🙂

I disagree🙂

outoftheblue said:I know a few men.😍 Most vegetarians are emotionally stunted—well, except for one group. Roughly 25% of them actually seem to have their emotions fully intact.
Is there any connection there?

I know certain people who post such absolute nonsense—it’s enough to make you think they’re genuinely lacking in the mental department.🙂

P. S. Quote

Decide on your path—decide on life. Pick a career, settle into a profession, build a family, embrace the mundane comforts of washing machines and CDs—it’s all part of the deal. It's all just... well, it's a performance. Choose your future. Choose life.

The correct spelling is career. Career paths are rarely linear—they're more like winding mountain roads. You start with a clear map, only to find a detour or a dead end right when you think you've arrived. It’s frustrating, sure—but those detours often lead to much better views. Don't get too hung up on the "standard" trajectory; sometimes the most rewarding moves happen when you least expect them.

briskgull27 said:I know a few vegetarians who are incredibly sharp—brilliant, really—but they seem emotionally stunted. Then there's one guy who is just exceptionally kind and warm. All of them are men.
Could that emotional dullness actually be linked to diet?

You're spot on... it definitely has to do with nutrition.
That emotional numbness is tied to the preference for eating slaughtered animals—because people who are emotionally dull simply don't care that they're consuming an animal that died in agony. They lack empathy—it’s as simple as that.

Keith Lee2 said:The issue with vegetarianism—if you ask me—is that people take that childhood affection
for stuffed animals (mostly critters) and project it onto actual living creatures
now that they’re adults.
Some folks do the exact same thing with their vintage cars.
As for me—despite being fully "grown up"—I still hold onto my love for plushies.

🙂

Disperadun said:The connections you're making just don't hold water—they aren't related at all. To paraphrase: just because someone loves dogs and cats doesn't mean they have to love cows...

OT: Why don't you go preach to the lions? Why don't they eat cabbage instead of gazelles?

It's absolutely related—someone who slaughters an animal clearly doesn't truly love it.
As far as I'm concerned, what you choose to eat is your business.

Disperadun said:Fair enough—I was actually thinking about what you mentioned regarding eating meat without the guilt. Why should I feel guilty if it's just part of being human... especially since some people absolutely need it to function?

Look, if your logic holds up, then it applies to me too—regardless of my personal views.

If you aren't feeling any guilt, then you don't have a problem—at least on the surface—but remember, karma keeps a very detailed ledger.🙂

Thomas Stewart97 said:It isn't about animal love—it’s that you're disconnected from reality. You aren't looking closely enough, or perhaps your own indoctrination is clouding your vision. I suggest revisiting that old thread regarding the psychological makeup of slaughterhouse workers; it might provide some much-needed clarity.

A butcher or anyone working in meat processing can value livestock just as much as you value your pet—or at least similarly (minus the emotional attachment, which, let's be honest, isn't actually "love"), yet they still process them for food.

If there is an emotional bond, sure, it becomes harder—but they still care, and that is simply the reality of it.

Most people making arguments like yours act as if they just landed on Mars—that is always how it looks when someone is deeply indoctrinated; it resembles pure fantasy when what they say is so clearly detached from the world we live in.

There is no hypocrisy here—just a healthy understanding that, at our current stage of development, animals serve as food for humanity, and that's it. It's that simple. We aren't talking about cruelty or anything of the sort. No one supports animal abuse—though, frankly, many people claim to care while being just as indifferent to human suffering as long as they are comfortable. To those who are truly indifferent, it's all the same.

If we weren't concerned, none of this would exist.

But the path you are choosing—by attacking everyone who eats meat—is clearly the wrong way to go for any serious thinker or person who hasn't been brainwashed.

Are you being serious?😕
A butcher loves animals?????????????🤣

Those who consume meat are responsible for the brutal slaughter of animals and unspeakable suffering.
If you equate the slaughter, the blood, the cries, the agony, the fear, and the sense of betrayal with love, then you are either acting out of pure spite or you have no idea what you are talking about—because your argument lacks any semblance of common sense.

Keith Lee2 said:So, what you're actually saying is—I won't die from natural causes unless I somehow contribute to someone else's death first.

Wait, what?
😕

Disperadun said:
The repetitive claims and—frankly—non-arguments from Thomas Stewart97 throughout this entire thread:

"you all take pleasure in the slaughtering and suffering of animals"
"sadists, general criminals—they simply can't be intelligent"

"I can't say I wouldn't take medication; regardless, I’d look for an alternative. I don't think someone taking a tested antibiotic with a gelatin capsule—even if they aren't eating meat—is being a hypocrite. We have options today, and choosing one that prevents animal suffering isn't futile, even if you're taking antibiotics. Still, antibiotics are used occasionally, whereas avoiding meat saves them daily."

"Intelligent people don't feed on carcasses"

"Eating carrion is pure fanaticism—human appetite and selfishness truly know no bounds"

"People who eat meat are missing something—either empathy or intelligence"

Man, are you aware of how superficial you're being? You're just spouting nonsense that has zero connection to reality. Please—just give me one actual, solid argument!

I didn't say you enjoy the slaughter and the pain, rather that you contribute to it.

For someone like you, who doesn't believe animals have souls, a real argument simply doesn't exist.

Keith Lee2 said:Plants didn't deserve to be eaten—after all, they haven't exactly been out there hunting anyone.
Animals deserve to be eaten—it’s only fair that they get a taste of their own medicine.
He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword..

Got it—I’ll make sure to keep that in mind.
What goes around, comes around—karma always settles the score.
If you honestly believe there won't be consequences for profiting from the suffering of defenseless creatures—if you think you can just feast on misery without paying the price—then you are dead wrong. Everything eventually comes full circle.

Cosmo Shiva said:Maybe try learning what carcass actually means first.
It’s pretty obvious you were raised on nothing but carrion if you find meat so repulsive.
Your logic is pure fanaticism—you’re just looking at this through one narrow lens.
You don't care about anyone else's perspective; you just circle back to that same opening sentence, which, frankly, isn't much of an argument at all.

Calling my reasoning fanaticism is a stretch—it's actually quite logical.

There’s simply no reason to slaughter animals and subject them to such misery when we have plant-based alternatives readily available.

Real fanaticism is the obsession with eating carrion—human greed knows no bounds, and people are fanatically gorging themselves on the remains of animals that died in absolute agony.👎

Cosmo Shiva said:But why bother? At the end of the day, it all boils down to being happy or satisfied.
Aren't you just constructing a miserable little world for yourself—one where you can't actually enjoy anything?
Something isn't adding up there.

I don't believe the point of living is mere indulgence—to me, finding pleasure while others suffer is nothing more than selfishness. I simply cannot draw happiness or satisfaction from the misery and pain of others.
My life is wonderful, and I truly believe that's the result of karma. I focus on building a happy world—specifically, a world free from slaughter and suffering.🙂

The issue isn't me; it's the greed and selfishness inherent in people who prioritize their own appetites above all else. Because of that unchecked hunger, innocent animals are being brutally slaughtered today—suffering terribly just to satisfy human cravings that don't even need to exist.👎