Casey Wright4 said:For stuff like that, you go with consequences—limiting privileges or taking things away—not hitting them. If she swiped some candy, say, her mom should have just said, "No trips to Target for a bit," and actually explained why. Or maybe a temporary ban on sweets, again, with a clear explanation.
If a kid doesn't even have the cognitive capacity to tell right from wrong yet, then punishment—especially physical punishment—is useless. At that stage, the only thing that actually works is distraction.
Honestly, back when I was a little kid, my dad had this habit of yelling or swatting my hand if I messed up; once he actually smacked me when I was five years old just blowing out candles at a friend's birthday party, and God knows what my crime even was... turns out that friend was a total jerk who started crying because "she was blowing out his candles," and my dad probably just panicked thinking someone would judge him for not raising me properly, so—bam. Then his parents gave him a massive reality check after dealing with that little brat, so he stopped hitting me for things like that. Especially since I’ve always been the type who needs everything said clearly and loudly, and I react pretty intensely to violence—I actually went after that kid right after and told my dad he was being an idiot—and I was only five! 😂
Lawrence Wilson35 said:Look, regarding all this yelling...
I yell when I'm angry too. In my opinion, being angry is perfectly fine.
I don't take it personally that he felt angry; why should I?
That is his emotion. He is angry (even if it's directed at me). I already know I can be difficult, so his anger doesn't phase me, nor does the reason behind it.
But once you lay a hand on someone—that becomes personal. That's a direct attempt to strip away a person's dignity.
Yeah, even when you hit an animal, it starts to shut down, let alone a human being. I saw it with my grandparents' dog; everyone used to hit and mistreat him until he was practically feral, but the moment someone approached him nicely or offered food, he'd turn into a little sweetheart.
Morgan Cooper34 said:The yelling alone was enough to break him. That slap was just the icing on a very ugly cake.
Anyway, Key was mentioning Italians earlier. I know plenty of North American people who treat their kids like they’re invisible ghosts. Just feed them and keep them out of sight so the parents can have some peace.
It’s always the same old routine—"Go outside," "Be quiet," "Don't bother Mom or Dad while they're relaxing."
Reminds me of how we grew up, sitting perfectly still with our grandparents, terrified to make a sound while the nightly news was on. 😉
Yeah, there’s this weird thing in North American culture where people think you have to be "tough" on kids just to turn them into functioning adults. They try to force an ascetic lifestyle or even some roughness on them, justifying it by saying, "Life is going to kick them in the teeth anyway, so they might as well learn how to take a hit at home"...
My take is that you should warn young people that bullies and snakes exist, but instead of breaking them, you give them the confidence and stability they need to actually handle life. 👍 For instance, my driving instructor has a kid who was about seven at the time. Some bully at school gave him a hard time, and one day my instructor told me:
"Man, I really need to teach him how to stand his ground against those predators, how to defend himself... I completely overlooked that, but now it's time he learns..." "
I'm fine with that mindset; he decided to teach his son how to build
whatever strength he needs, rather than just beating him or teaching him how to be a thug. 👍