My mom is having a bit of a headache because Medicare & Medicaid Services won't accept her printed documents... Apparently, they're insisting on seeing the official deregistration for both her peace of mind and her personal records.
You really should, and honestly, you ought to give them a heads-up ahead of time 😉 Ideally, any kind of change should be reported to the Social Security Administration at least 24 hours in advance. Even though they’re usually pretty flexible with how you handle enrollments or cancellations, I've always found it's better to stay on top of it just to be safe...
mistybear6, you should probably just pick up a physical printout from a local newsstand or a pharmacy near my doctor's office... my Medicare provider won't accept anything you just print out at home. If you have your deregistration paperwork on hand, bring it along just in case, though it might not be strictly necessary since they'll see your status in the system and just list you as unemployed...
Arthur Thomas5 said:I am still digging around, trying to find where this is actually documented—in which specific law or federal regulation. From what I can gather, it isn't written down ANYWHERE; it seems to be nothing more than some vague, non-binding internal agreement between agencies. In the actual laws and regulations governing mandatory insurance, there isn't a single word about this "automation"—instead, the law explicitly states that one must submit an application for health coverage. So, when someone gets hit with a fine because they didn't file a report with Medicare, what are they supposed to cite? There is no law, no regulation... what is left to point to besides some random headline in a tabloid? 🤦
I honestly haven't a clue, but I dealt with this myself last summer when two different small businesses couldn't get Medicare & Medicaid Services to pull the data from NOAA. I have no idea what determines how those systems talk to each other...
We actually ran into a bit of a situation where we had a seasonal worker who was supposed to be covered under extended peace-of-mind insurance. It wasn't until right at the end of that period that we realized he didn't actually have health coverage, because we were supposed to register him as unemployed through Medicare. It happened just during that window when they stopped sending out those confirmation emails for the processed paperwork, so it somehow just slipped through the cracks...
I’m honestly not quite sure what advice I could give you, since my local Medicare office told me they won't accept digital updates and insisted we have to bring all the paperwork down to them in person, so it might be best if you just reach out to 🤷 ...
So, basically, any paperwork I hand-deliver to Medicare, I just do the exact same thing for the IRS... since they're both located in the same building for me, it really isn't much of an issue 🤷
If you're dealing with a change that happened mid-coverage period—meaning you've already submitted an M3P or M13P form, depending on whether we're talking about an employee or a small business owner—you actually have to take those papers down to Medicare in person. Their system just isn't set up to process those specific types of updates automatically, or at least that's what 🤷 told me... As for registering or de-registering someone, I'd suggest waiting a few days to see if it clears on its own. If there's still no movement after that, then it's probably time to head over to the Medicare office with your paperwork in hand.
Someone at the Medicare & Medicaid Services office mentioned to me recently that they require us to hand-deliver every single update in person. Apparently, even when you just need to correct some basic information, you still have to file that T1 form manually...
From what I understand, you don't actually need to make any changes regarding your health insurance coverage, since they don't even require a copy of your employment contract; as far as they're concerned, it makes no difference whether you're on a temporary contract or a permanent one...
I honestly can't wrap my head around how they could even attempt to register an employee who was already on the books. That part is entirely on them, and frankly, their system shouldn't have allowed it to happen in the first place; I just don't understand the oversight... As for why you weren't able to serve the termination notice, there seems to be so much ambiguity surrounding the whole situation...
That little troublemaker, yeah, she's definitely a regular 🙂 whenever there's an upgrade to a nice savings account, a 401(k), or just about anything else 🙂 they really do get under my skin...
Nicole Lee6 said:Does the online retirement portal actually process applications on Saturdays?
I wonder what you think... you can certainly submit an application on a Saturday, though the paperwork won't actually be processed until Monday morning 😉
gentlepuma02, were you wondering about which benefits come with being a full-time seasonal worker, or are you looking to register someone for a specific short-term seasonal role? If you're looking into the requirements for permanent seasonal status, you should check the Medicare website to see exactly what they require and who qualifies for those positions...
gentlepuma02, I can tell you for certain that they don't fall under the permanent seasonal category, though as for the other part, I'm really not too sure... I just make sure to report them all as full-time employees on a fixed-term basis 🤷
slatkasol, I honestly can't wrap my head around how that all went down for you 🤷 your best bet is probably just giving NOAA a call and seeing if they can get everything updated on their end