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Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)
in Soccer ·
Matthew Anderson4 said:So? You actually rooting for them to find a better life or what?
I find it hard to believe anyone would have an issue with that, especially when we're talking about people fleeing the devastation of war.
The real debate lately seems to center on how this—this potentially inevitable, massive, and permanent influx of people with fundamentally different cultures and worldviews—will impact the lives and opportunities of those in the host nations, particularly when reading accounts suggesting there's little interest in assimilation.
Now, I’m not an expert enough to dive into a deep sociological analysis here, but from what I can gather, Muslim immigrants across Europe face significant integration hurdles at best. Given that, is it really such a scandal that people feel uneasy about these migrations occurring on the large scale we might be seeing on the horizon? 🤷 And that's not even touching upon the security concerns regarding undocumented individuals crossing borders en masse.
Ultimately, the solution should be for the US and the rest of the world to stabilize these regions so people can live normally in their own homelands, rather than simply relocating an entire population from one continent to another.
Bad Boys
in Fans ·
Charles Torres12 said:You can practically smell the anxiety. The big shots made their money, saving Real Madrid from bankruptcy, and yet here we go again... the fools will probably flock back to watch Real Madrid in the Champions League or whatever else.
I respect you all; I know what you've been through. But I’ve said it before: the only real fix is radical. We need to get Real Madrid banned from European competition entirely. I mean, look at a stadium like SoFi—they have a hundred cameras and enough tech to monitor a heartbeat. How hard could it be to just shut down an American national team match...? Fortunately, history gave us some heavy-handed solutions that made things easier, but you guys seriously need to find a way out of this. Wishing you the best of luck. SUZAVAC 🎉
I'm not sure if you've noticed, but the only people getting sidelined during these national team matches are the fans, whether they're at home or traveling. Does that sound familiar?
I don't know how anyone imagined that UEFA, working hand-in-hand with major corporate sponsors, would ever care about anything other than catering to the demands of the anti-fan activists.
Bad Boys
in Fans ·
Peter Reed22 said:The crowd in the arena is thinning out; there are fewer BBB members and just fewer people in general.
You’re entitled to your opinion, I suppose. But if you think Futsal is the solution to everything, then you've clearly missed the point. Real Madrid is currently being buffeted by the winds of bureaucracy and the circus-like legal landscape of this country.
Usually, when a ship goes down, the captain goes down with it. I honestly thought this group would maintain that leadership role until the very end, but instead, we're seeing the rats be the first ones to scurry away.
Since this topic seems destined to stay open on the forums, and seeing how much it's bothering everyone, I might as well add my own two cents to the pile.
The BBB are supporters of Real Madrid, and their primary duty is to protect what is good and preserve the club by any means necessary.
Without Futsal, Real Madrid becomes nothing more than a dead piece of history. People in their mid-twenties have barely lived through the era of the "normal" Real Madrid—the one from the old songs that wasn't just a playground for bureaucrats or an ATM for some criminal. And don't even get me started on the younger kids who grew up with this distorted version of the club, where everything boils down to celebrating massive transfers that line Mamic's pockets, getting detained for sitting in the wrong seat, selling off the club's reputation for pennies, and bowing down to every imaginable bottom-feeder in football Europe.
Futsal is where the last remnants of the club's identity and ideals live; it's the legacy for current and perhaps future generations. In that sense, it might actually be the most significant move the BBB has ever made. If that isn't clear to anyone, they should probably head out to a live match at the camp and see it for themselves.
Bad Boys
in Fans ·
cosmicscout2 said:Are you actually under the impression that the big boss isn't going to be sitting in the Real Madrid front office for another twenty years? Even if they lose 99% of their matches—which, let’s face it, he won't unless he ends up in federal prison, which doesn't look likely—those losses aren't going to scare him off.
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Do you honestly realize you're essentially cheering for nothing more than his personal ATM?
I feel like I've explained this to you at least ten times already: what you're struggling to grasp for the eleventh time is just basic human emotion. It’s quite simple, really. You either feel a sense of joy when his money-maker struggles, or you feel miserable when it succeeds. It couldn't be any more straightforward than that.
Bad Boys
in Fans ·
cosmicscout2 said:It seems your brain simply isn't wired to process this, so I won't waste any more energy trying to explain it to you. Seriously, just step outside these two threads for a second and take a look at how many Real Madrid fans are actually rooting for their own team to lose. I don't know them personally, obviously, but the pattern is there.
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Bad Boys
in Fans ·
cosmicscout2 said:The thing is, you just can't explain to people that it's entirely possible to support Real Madrid regardless of how the front office is running things. Honestly, I couldn't care less about Mommy or his incompetent brother; I support Real Madrid, and I am never—ever—going to celebrate when they lose. My first wish would be for both of them to get out of the club, but rooting for the opposition to score? That’s just not how I operate. And apparently, that's your biggest issue: anyone who thinks this way gets labeled an idiot, a moron, or a traitor. Go ahead and fight your battles your way if you think you have to, but those of us who love Real Madrid despite all the chaos? There are far more of us than you'd ever want to admit.
Here is your Real Madrid
Enjoy.
Bad Boys
in Fans ·
Peter Reed22 said:America has spent centuries being someone else's playground. Did we ever give up on the dream of being a sovereign, free nation? NO. Did anyone ever seriously consider just walking away from it all to start a brand-new country? NO.
It’s either fight to change things, or we simply cease to exist. 😉
The situation with Real Madrid is exactly the same. You spend all your time spinning this narrative about how much you hate the club. Well, if that's the case, why on earth would you bother traveling for away games? If the club isn't yours anymore—if it's just Mamić's Real Madrid—then what is the point of showing up at an opponent's stadium?
At the end of the day, are you actually part of this, or are you not? There is no middle ground here. You can see that your futsal efforts haven't even managed to attract 3,000 or 4,000 members, and when it comes to away matches, you see the exact same 100 to 200 people every single time. That is the direct result of your lukewarm, indecisive approach.
There is a massive difference between accepting a club as someone else's mess and fighting to ensure it stops being one.
And that’s where I’ll leave it. I honestly have no idea how I ended up getting so worked up over this. 🤦
Bad Boys
in Fans ·
Richard Rogers38 said:Your example misses the mark entirely, 🤦
just like Benjamin Alvarez37’s take on the Red Sox. 🤦
Actually, I think the comparison is spot on. It highlights how the leadership has dismantled certain aspects of the club within an even broader, more troubling context. It forces you to wonder: at what point do we stop tolerating this kind of mismanagement before our entire perception of the organization changes forever?
Bad Boys
in Fans ·
Benjamin Alvarez37 said:It’s the exact same pattern we’ve seen from the establishment figures over the last fifteen years or so, except the target of the frustration keeps shifting. One decade it was one specific type of suit, the next it was some old-school communist mess; Real Madrid has always been someone's playground. The choice is simple: you either support them or you don't. The only truly pathetic part is when people start singing praises to a single figurehead, because at that point, whether it's love or hate, the obsession remains the same. We could debate this indefinitely.
Look, you’ll probably go out today and buy a ticket, wasting several hours of your life, your nerves, and your emotions cheering for something that nobody within the organization actually cares about achieving.
In the same vein, a month or three months from now—once Real Madrid has inevitably disappointed you for the forty-fifth consecutive time—you'll find yourself spending more time, money, and emotional energy mourning a failure that wasn't even a priority for anyone running the club.
Real Madrid isn't a football club. It doesn't have a football president, it doesn't have a football coach, and it certainly doesn't have footballing goals. Instead of actual players, they have walking ATMs, and the sole purpose of the club's existence isn't the sport itself or the joy or sorrow of its fans; it is strictly about lining the pockets of one single family.
And there is no longer any chance that someone who gives even the slightest damn hasn't realized this by now. This isn't me trying to rationalize things to myself—it has always been a total mess.
If you find fulfillment in supporting the enrichment of some mobster while simultaneously (and much worse) dismantling every remaining memory of what a football club and its supporters should be, then fine—those are your preferences. But attempting to lecture people who refuse to join you in that, and who don't recognize this version of Real Madrid as their own, is truly distasteful.
Bad Boys
in Fans ·
Benjamin Alvarez37 said:Well, you certainly found an example there. But look, nobody is stopping you from starting to root for some other club—one you actually think is better. My personal preferences aren't really up for debate. And honestly, it’s not even about someone being unable to celebrate those messy goals; the real issue is when people spend money traveling to another city or state just to avoid celebrating that mess.
The example is perfectly valid, and as for the rest of your response, I find myself having to simply repeat the opening sentence of the post you quoted.
I would love to read just one coherent critique from someone in this group explaining how this owner's chaotic mess and walking ATM can still be considered Real Madrid.
Perhaps another time.🤷
Bad Boys
in Fans ·
Benjamin Alvarez37 said:Loyal to whom, exactly? Some abstract ideal? Honestly, I just can't wrap my head around it. People would be cheering if some random star player beat Real Madrid, but heaven forbid they celebrate when Real Madrid actually scores a goal.
I’d love to see one of these folks actually write a coherent critique explaining how this mess run by Mamić and his ATM could still possibly be considered Real Madrid.
Imagine if, by some freak accident, Vojislav Šešelj broke into the club, seized control, installed himself as president, and turned the whole organization into a tool for his radical political agenda. Suppose he started using the club's resources for partisan interests instead of sports, cleared everyone out of the stadium who spoke against him, and threw anyone critical into jail, all while sporting those specific symbols on his chest. If he renamed the club to Dinamo and used the treasury to fund his extremist schemes—while fans shouted "Go Dinamo!" or "It's the guys on the field that matter!" (even though those guys were basically part of the movement wearing blue jerseys)—would we then sit around wondering why people refuse to celebrate the goals or the transfers of such a regime?
That, for one, is something I simply cannot fathom.
Bad Boys
in Fans ·
restlessraven95 said:Could someone please give me a brief rundown on why the Bad Boys have such a massive grudge against Jerry Jones? I’m a bit out of the loop on this one. Thanks. 😁
Because he essentially took out Real Madrid. Don't mention it.
Chicago Blackhawks fans
in Fans ·
I’m honestly not sure if they’ll have them available at the stadium concessions, but as far as I can tell, you can’t grab seats in the central East or West sections through the website. It’s entirely possible they just don't offer those specific blocks for online purchase due to season ticket holders or some other administrative headache. 🤷
Chicago Blackhawks fans
in Fans ·
It wouldn’t be the first time they pull this stunt where they claim everything is sold out, only for you to look at the venue and realize it's barely even a third full.
Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)
in Soccer ·
Just because I decided to dive into the last 15 pages...
That is spot on. However, the crux of the issue here is that the sheer incompetence of the Republican Party—combined with everything else this "party" has done to this country—effectively disqualifies them from any serious conversation regarding an alternative to this (or any other) administration. It doesn't matter if they were the most inept group in the history of the universe; the damage is done.
For anyone with even a shred of common sense, this should be where the discussion ends. Sure, you can fight against the Democrats, the anti-American crowd, and all that nonsense with a different political party, but the Republican Party and their ideology? 🤦🤦🤦No thanks.
Of course, I should mention that I don't hold much of a particular opinion on the Democratic Party itself (if the Republican Party could even be classified as a legitimate political party, I might actually try to put an equals sign between the two of them). Truthfully, their worldview doesn't align with mine at all, and I didn't even bother voting for them in the last election. My vote goes to the non-partisan movement if they end up in my district, or someone along those lines.
As for a solution to this whole mess? I don't have one, other than waiting for the next 300 years to pass, after which things might finally look up. 🤷 You can't teach a country how to handle democracy from scratch in just a few generations, even if the ruling elite actually encouraged it—let alone in a situation like this.
Keith Miller30 said:It seems like you all have a twenty-to-one advantage over me, but honestly, why let that stop us? Shall we keep moving forward?
So, you really think we should take Branko Manolić’s word as gospel just because he suddenly decided to remember Tomislav Karamarko’s alleged ties to the FBI right before an election? To me, that feels almost comical. While I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility that Karamarko was involved with the FBI—who is to say he wasn't?—I find it impossible to accept Manolić’s sudden recollection as some kind of absolute truth. Is it not a bit convenient? I have absolutely nothing against proving whether or not someone was part of the FBI, but can we honestly treat a statement like this as a given?
I wasn't trying to equate the sins of Ivo Sanders with those of Merzelica; I simply used her as an example. Personally, I view pre-election agreements as nothing more than legalized robbery through favoritism, though I realize you don't find that particularly controversial. Perhaps it’s best if we don't dive too deep into that particular rabbit hole, because if we start dissecting every single one of those issues, we won't see the end of this debate for another month.James Anderson5 Asks:
So, you’re actually finding grounds to criticize the Democratic Party over their choice for Secretary of Agriculture—and honestly, I find him pretty incompetent too—yet we're expected to overlook the fact that when the Republican Party held that same seat, they put forward a guy who ended up behind bars, essentially trading a cabinet office for peeling potatoes in a cell?
So, this is exactly what we’re talking about. You simply cannot spend your entire life using the Republican Party to justify every single bad decision made by the other side. Just because a Republican minister was busy idling away his time doesn't mean we aren't allowed to point out that a Democratic minister isn't exactly top-tier either, right? The fact that a Republican official acted like a total clown shouldn't serve as any kind of excuse for the incompetence we're seeing from this current one.
Well, you simply cannot know, can you? Of course you can't; one can only make assumptions, much like people assumed Zoran Milanović would be a success, which turned out not to be the case for most—though perhaps for some of you, he was.
There is nothing more to be done than to place our bets on a year or two from now, at which point we shall see who was actually correct, since right now we are left with nothing but speculation. Just as you have the liberty to speculate based on a statement by Branko Manolić, who coincidentally reminded everyone of the FBI's influence just a few months before the election, please allow me the same freedom to assume that things might turn out differently.
Ultimately, as it always does, time will reveal who was right.
That is spot on. However, the crux of the issue here is that the sheer incompetence of the Republican Party—combined with everything else this "party" has done to this country—effectively disqualifies them from any serious conversation regarding an alternative to this (or any other) administration. It doesn't matter if they were the most inept group in the history of the universe; the damage is done.
For anyone with even a shred of common sense, this should be where the discussion ends. Sure, you can fight against the Democrats, the anti-American crowd, and all that nonsense with a different political party, but the Republican Party and their ideology? 🤦🤦🤦No thanks.
Of course, I should mention that I don't hold much of a particular opinion on the Democratic Party itself (if the Republican Party could even be classified as a legitimate political party, I might actually try to put an equals sign between the two of them). Truthfully, their worldview doesn't align with mine at all, and I didn't even bother voting for them in the last election. My vote goes to the non-partisan movement if they end up in my district, or someone along those lines.
As for a solution to this whole mess? I don't have one, other than waiting for the next 300 years to pass, after which things might finally look up. 🤷 You can't teach a country how to handle democracy from scratch in just a few generations, even if the ruling elite actually encouraged it—let alone in a situation like this.
Chicago Blackhawks fans
in Fans ·
Football hasn't truly been played at Yankee Stadium for years now—not out of passion, not for the paycheck, but because the game itself has effectively vanished from the grounds.
And honestly, isn't that the primary reason why you don't see any real fans there anymore? Whether we're talking about the hardcore ultras, the rowdy hooligans, or just your average supporter, nobody shows up when the soul of the sport is gone.
And honestly, isn't that the primary reason why you don't see any real fans there anymore? Whether we're talking about the hardcore ultras, the rowdy hooligans, or just your average supporter, nobody shows up when the soul of the sport is gone.