Posts by Charles Chase4

restlesssurfer97 said:Cut the whole "it's better this way than that" nonsense, just give us some actual, concrete details about what they've actually accomplished, anything at all, just share whatever hope you're holding onto with the rest of us.

Well, here this is what I’m hoping they leave behind after their four-year term. Look, Dobrovic and Orepic seem like decent enough people, but as someone pointed out above, is it really realistic to expect fifteen representatives to stage a full-blown revolution in a country filled with millions of little Bandics? Even if they play the opposition role against the Republican Party—which they are technically in power with—at least they've secured control over the police and the judiciary. That’s still a step up from letting the Republican Party have absolute, unchecked authority. As for that whole situation with Karamarko, it's one of those things that won't be recorded in our political history regardless of how anyone tries to spin or downplay it. The way the Republican Party was selected was a total disgrace, but then again, the Democratic Party under Zoki had an opportunity unlike any other to actually accomplish something significant, yet they blew it and squandered their power for what will likely be a very long time.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm no fanboy; I don't care for them one way or the other. But I am trying to frame my expectations within the realm of reality. Personally, I’d love to see them wielding more actual power—more legislative mandate in Parliament—because, quite frankly, you simply can't get anything substantial done without it.

restlesssurfer97 said:With all due respect, I honestly think most people just couldn't care less about the fans. And let's be real, especially with everyone on this Reddit thread, we all know the league mafia is just using hooligans as a convenient scapegoat to distract us from their own shady business, but the idea that I'm going to start rooting for some guys brawling on the highway because of that just doesn't cross my mind. I really don't get where you guys get the notion that those types of people are actually going to take down the soccer mafia. Honestly, the sheep are the ones falling for those Trumpian emergency government sessions focused on "hooliganism" (which reminds me of that ridiculous chicken 😂😂), but the sheep are also the people who think we’re going to be saved from the Jerry Jones type of corruption by a bunch of guys fighting on the interstate. Or in stadiums. Or wherever else they feel like picking a fight.

The point isn't that they'll take down the soccer mafia; the point is that they are the only ones in the entire social system actually raising their voices against organized crime and taking some kind of action, however misguided it may be. It’s truly pathetic, though it makes it quite easy to spot when the moral panic kicks in—you know, when three different news segments and an emergency session of the government are suddenly organized around a single flare in a stadium, and everyone starts looking down their noses at everyone else.

Noah Roberts46 said:Was he talking about general issues or specifically about the fans? Because if his whole point is just pointing fingers at other criminals, then yeah, fine.

Look, I’ve been right there in the stands. I know firsthand how much crap some people pull just because they love causing trouble, or because they have an inherent urge to steal and act like thugs. I’m not saying everyone is like that, but there are plenty of them. Is that "socially acceptable" behavior? Why aren't they being scrutinized just as heavily? It’s precisely because of these idiots that Mamić wins the battle. We all know who the bigger criminal is—we don't need to repeat it a hundred times—but the other side has the exact same flaws that should be ignored.

Without getting sidetracked by everything else, I just want to touch on this since you've already started pulling the thread.

The man manages several billion dollars over a fifteen-year span and hosts birthday parties for the highest officials in the country, yet somehow he's losing the PR war because certain fans decide to act out on a highway, much like they might anywhere else in the civilized world. 😁

We really need to stop kidding ourselves by pretending there are thousands, if not hundreds, of "true believers" out there. You could argue that if the national team had scheduled a match in Miami right after the St. Etienne game, you’d still see crowds fighting to wear a Modrić jersey. But let’s be honest—those kinds of sentiments don't travel much further than a niche forum or the specific groups directly profiting from this nonsense.

brisktrucker2 said:That’s true enough. But when you claim that being homogeneous is somehow an easy feat, you’re essentially brushing aside the sacrifices made by those who stood their ground against the old guard at Hajduk Split. They fought their own battles to secure a win back then, and let’s be honest—it wasn't nearly as effortless as some people here seem to suggest.

As far as everything else goes, I think we’re pretty much on the same page.

Look, I wasn't trying to diminish anyone's accomplishments. I’ve already given credit where credit is due regarding the massive strides made with Hajduk Split. But honestly, this is exactly the kind of pushback you get when people start playing the "who did more" game—a trend that seems to be spreading through this forum like wildfire lately. Personally, I find it both absurd and frankly a bit pathetic that everyone on both sides was seemingly itching for this kind of petty bickering to break out. Is this really how we want to spend our time?

brisktrucker2 said:It’s not like Mamic had total control from day one, and he certainly hasn't delivered much in the way of results. You guys had your own window of opportunity back when that "amateur league" was running, but you blew it then too...

You also had plenty of time to fix your club's internal structure before you suddenly needed to raise a hundred million dollars just to have a seat at the decision-making table. Some things simply need time to evolve and mature, I suppose.

Ryan Chavez3 said:No, she simply saw a crowd that was far too large to mess with or try to fight against.

But that is precisely what I was getting at.

Ryan Chavez3 said:It isn't just talk; he's actually terrified. We all remember how things went south after that massive turnout at the Hajduk-Inter Zaprešić game. Vidic saw the writing on the wall.

A bullet?

Dennis Davis97 said:Look, nobody is claiming the situations are identical, obviously... but this whole argument about how we supposedly have some "motherly" bond or whatever is just ridiculous. The reality is that we are more cohesive than you guys, and if things were handled differently here, the conversation would take a completely different turn. But that’s just the byproduct of your politics—limiting everything to a select few elites.

Of course they're ridiculous. It's just as absurd as any claim about some inherent, divine difference in mentality existing thousands of miles away from 249 miles.

It is remarkably easy to maintain homogeneity when your opponent isn't sitting on two billion dollars, wielding the police, the courts, the local government, a streak of twelve consecutive league titles, physical intimidation of rivals, and five Champions League trophies. Our Hajduk project was born specifically from a handshake between a few visionaries and Kerum, who essentially handed over the club because he thought it was going under and wanted to wash his hands of the responsibility. There isn't some legendary masterstroke you pulled off that wasn't also mirrored in Chicago, but the point I made above is the bottom line. I'm not saying that to be negative; I'm simply suggesting there's no sense in obsessing over these distinctions, regardless of which side you're on.

Dennis Davis97 said:It’s pretty obvious that things had to hit rock bottom before the majority finally opened their eyes. Honestly, there were always people standing against the coach from day one, regardless of how the scoreboard looked. I suspect that if given enough time, that minority would have eventually swayed the majority anyway.

Picture this: thirty thousand die-hard fans and enough gear to fill an arena, all packed into a stadium with fifty different flags waving during the opening match of the Champions League, shouting "until the last man stands."

Look, I’ll say it again: hats off to the massive achievements you've accomplished, truly. But let’s be realistic—the current circumstances and the sheer scale of the situation are simply incomparable to anything we've seen before.

Jacob Price23 said:Is this probably something Mirta Šurjak dug up?

And let’s be honest, she was likely on the news five years ago talking about the exact same nonsense that's finally resulting in indictments today—figures so massive they rival the foundational capital of some major sports franchise undergoing a complete overhaul. Honestly, what a joke.

Raymond Reed10 said:You hate the corrupt suits at the club who illegally seized everything, yet you fight for the club's soul just so they can have an honorable organization to run tomorrow.

Looking at what physically constitutes this club in its current state, the only thing left that isn't (justifiably) subject to pure vitriol is the crest and the name. Even those have been tarnished by recent events to such an extent among neutral observers that one wonders if they can ever truly be scrubbed clean.

The ideal and the actual idea are two different things now; they exist solely in the minds of the fans in Brooklyn and within the Los Angeles Galaxy, which, if you ask me, might be the finest thing the Bad Boys ever actually produced.

I’d just add that all of this would be much more meaningful if it were happening while you actually loathed that club—you know, the kind of place that should serve as a rallying point or a source of motivation for everyone, including yourself. But instead, they’re coming after you with a budget north of two billion dollars. It’s simply incomparable. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to diminish the massive strides made by the folks over at the LA Galaxy, but from start to finish, there is no comparison here.

It’s honestly a shame to see how long it took for people on both sides to finally start acting up like this, but frankly, I stopped letting it get to me a long time ago.

So, after yesterday’s discussion, I figured I’d toss in a few extra thoughts of my own. After all, this is what this forum is for, right?

To be perfectly honest, I don't think I'll ever be able to truly cheer for Dinamo again. But, if we actually want to have some kind of influence over where this club is headed in the coming years—if we want to fight for something meaningful for the next generation—this is really our only move. The alternative is just locking the door and walking away. People deserve at least a seat at the table to see which direction things are being steered. Because let's face it: the alternative is simply turning out the lights and giving up on Dinamo entirely.

On the other hand, looking at the futsal squad, those guys embody the spirit of Dinamo more than the main team has in as long as I can remember. Honestly, they deserve our support at every single match.

The sky is blue, and Washington, D.C. is looking pristine
Yankee Stadium is celebrating; we’re finally sitting at the top of the mountain

🙂🙂🙂

GET OUT ON YOUR BALCONIES AND CHEER FOR THE CHAMPIONS

wiredrider9 said:Stiv just can't maintain that level of defensive intensity two games in a row...

Is there any actual truth to the rumor that this is why Babić decided to face the Spanish team without even having a goalie in the net? 🙏

Christian Miller48 said:Seriously, he's basically out in the wild. If he changes his pants, he’ll probably find another 7 million lying on the floor. He likely has another 8 million tucked under his pillow somewhere.

Well, of course he's out. Aside from the obvious question of how reasonable it is to let someone accused of stealing $200,000$0.00 defend themselves from freedom with a bail set at barely 10% of the total—without any restrictive measures, an indictment, a trial, or a verdict—it's all still just part of the unfolding legal process. I don't see why everyone is hyperventilating. Someone mentioned, "we know how the case ended this summer," but that isn't true; it hasn't even concluded. It's as if they think his sentencing is being decided tomorrow morning.

We live in the real world, where these things take their own time. Given the nature of the charges against him, it's ultimately certain that he will be held accountable for what he did. That said, this is just one small fraction of the whole story; the odometer is already hitting 200 miles. If investigators actually do their jobs with any degree of seriousness, we could be looking at figures many times higher than this.

Then there's the bigger issue: what happens to the club? What are the actual odds that this nest of corruption can ever become my club again—the Dinamo we dream about and believe in?

Those people who, even after everything, still look at this club controlled by Mamić's influence and claim they want to support Real Madrid from the stands—as well as those who feel we were somehow "robbed" of the Champions League or an Arsenal matchup—seem to have missed the mark entirely. It’s almost as if the only thing missing was a trip to the Champions League or a game against Arsenal, or perhaps they only boycotted because someone told them to. Honestly, they’ve wasted the last five years of their lives on these boycotts and struggles when they should have just kept showing up to the matches instead of spending their time protesting, camping out, or playing futsal. They clearly haven't grasped the point of any of this.

If this is truly your Real Madrid, then you should be at the stadium, cheering for every goal. But if you view Mamić's mess as a grotesque insult built upon the ruins of what the club used to be, those goals will only sting. You'll find yourself wishing for the worst and heading off to play futsal or somewhere else just to preserve your idea of Real Madrid, while participating in whatever protests you think might actually win the club back.

None of this has anything to do with the Bad Boys, nor does it involve me, since I'm just an outsider offering an opinion on a forum that isn't even dedicated to the Bad Boys. This is strictly about Real Madrid. Best regards.

steelseal10 said:What was with that crowd of people causing chaos in the North stands yesterday? And honestly, I’m convinced at least ten percent of them will still be showing up to games right alongside them. Look, I really couldn't care less how many mercenaries they hire. It’s just bad for their soul
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They’ll have another chance to act out this coming weekend against Indianapolis.