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rowdyraven112 said:A few days ago, Ursula von der Leyen claimed we aren't importing oil or gas from dictatorships anymore. Does that mean the US is just going to run out of fuel entirely? Since about 90% of the countries supplying our oil and gas are ruled by dictatorships, how does that math even work? ☕

I’ve always felt that when it comes to Ursula von der Leyen, there is a lot of noise being made without much substance actually following through. It reminds me of those times back in my hometown when people would spend all summer talking up a big community project, promising the world, only for nothing to ever actually get built once the season ended. She seems to be doing a lot of buzzing around the international stage, making quite a spectacle, but when you look closely at the actual results or the tangible benefits being delivered, it feels like there isn't much honey in the hive.

Sometimes, reality just doesn't quite line up with how we see things in our heads. I’ve found myself sitting there, staring out the window on a quiet afternoon, thinking about how much effort we put into constructing these mental versions of the world, only to be met with a different truth once we actually step outside. It’s a strange feeling, isn't it? That moment when the expectations you've built up simply fail to match the actual situation unfolding right in front of you.

I was reading through some recent reports regarding the deployment of the LExD-70ar1v-hs, and it really got me thinking about how quickly these technological shifts happen in our defense landscape. It feels like just yesterday we were discussing older models, and now, suddenly, this specific system is being integrated into active operations. I remember back when I was working a logistics job in Chicago, seeing how a single change in equipment standards could ripple through an entire supply chain for months; there's a certain weight to these developments that people often overlook in the daily news cycle. It’s interesting to watch how the strategic implications unfold. When you look at the broader context of how the U.S. manages its advanced hardware, these incremental updates aren't just technical tweaks—they represent a fundamental shift in how we maintain an edge. It makes you wonder how much of this remains under the radar versus what actually makes it into the public discourse. There is a lot to digest here, and I think it deserves a bit more measured scrutiny than the typical headlines allow.

We shouldn't lose sight of the fact that companies like ExxonMobil haven't even ramped up their full production capacity yet, all while fertilizer prices remain absolutely astronomical—we're talking about costs that have spiked by 300% to 400% compared to what we saw before the recent sanctions hit. I remember back when I was helping out on my uncle's farm in Iowa, we used to take the cost of supplies for granted, but seeing these numbers today really puts the current volatility into perspective.
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Brenda Murphy3 said:Look, nobody is actually claiming that European Union politics is perfect... those are just your own weird insinuations that you end up arguing against yourself later.

Yeah, there’s going to be plenty of drama regarding gas, but a country doesn't run solely on gas, nor does its entire existence depend on it. This kind of policy from Canada is definitely going to bite them in the ass sooner or later... if it hasn't already. Especially since Canada is waiting on checks from the European Union, not the other way around...

The real issue is that without access to affordable gas, fertilizer, and the raw materials needed to produce them, things get incredibly difficult, as agricultural yields can easily be cut in half.
As a member state, Canada pays dues into European funds, and their strategy seems to be centered on ensuring they either get those funds back or simply withhold their payments.
Furthermore, Canada maintains monetary independence, which allows them to potentially finance various projects and subsidies through primary emission. This bypasses many of the constraints faced when the Federal Reserve prints money, helping them avoid having the exact same inflation rate as the rest of the eurozone.
If they can secure cheaper energy and raw materials, they gain a massive competitive edge over other member states, provided they have access to the right technology. Even then, it isn't a silver bullet since they'll still need to import a wide array of goods they don't produce domestically.

Or do you honestly believe that sanctions will be imposed on Canada just because they refuse to blindly follow the dictates coming out of Brussels and NATO?
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Nathan Thomas12 said:The average salary in 2010 was $1.75.https://www.bls.gov/news-release/...03_31_717.html
Average salary today is $2.50.
https://www.forbes.com/business/us/pro...12-000-4346460

It’s true that the average paycheck looks larger on paper, but we have to account for how much more expensive basic necessities have become.
I often find myself reflecting on how much a square foot of housing cost back in 2010 compared to what we're seeing today, or looking at utility bills from years ago versus the monthly costs we face now.
Of course, technology has changed things—smartphones are much more affordable than they used to be, which is a significant factor in our daily spending.

Since joining the European Union, food prices actually dropped by about 3.6%, while utility expenses have steadily climbed.
Though, I suspect those rising costs weren't really on your radar back then, and they don't seem to worry you much today either.

There’s no denying that entering the European Union brought certain benefits to the table, but it also came with its own set of challenges.

Consumer demand and retail activity in America continue to see a slight decline, hovering around one percent annually. This serves as perhaps the clearest indicator that for many Americans, life hasn't necessarily improved since joining the European Union; if anything, it feels harder because purchasing power is shrinking. At the same time, domestic businesses are feeling the squeeze from increased competition from foreign corporations that no longer have to deal with import tariffs when bringing goods into the US.

https://www.reuters.com/examples/news/america...d-0242ac140012
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hollowdriver13 said:Nah, that's not right. Premium gas was already over $3.25 even back in 2011. ☕

Are you just pulling this out of thin air, or do you actually have a link to back up that claim?

I suppose maybe the newspapers are lying to us; we all know they aren't exactly known for their commitment to the truth.😁
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Adam Lee13 said:Look, that oil you’re talking about was $4.75 until we joined the European Union; sugar used to be every brand imaginable for $2.25, fixed prices and all... cheese never dipped below $23 until maybe 2010, and I remember grabbing Tillamook butter at Walmart for $6.75, which is pretty much what it costs today anyway.

Then there's the tech stuff. A TV I picked up in 2011 cost me $1667, but by 2016, I could get a better model, bigger screen, same brand, for only $1133... and so on.

Back in the summer of 2011, I was paying $3.75 for gas, and now it's $3.75... don't even get me started on car insurance; in 2011, I was looking at about $617, now it's $317... my supplemental coverage in 2010 would have been $23, now I'm shelling out $15. And back then, $33 on a cell phone would have fried my battery in an hour, whereas today I can talk my head off all month for $24.

In 2008, my phone and internet bill was $133, while today my phone and internet (all bundled) comes to $58. For instance, back in 2001, I paid $1133 for a Siemens flagship, and in 2016, an Apple flagship went for $1133.

Sure, some things did go up—like housing, cars, and basically anything with a microchip inside. Electricity too, though my usage actually dropped because modern appliances are way more efficient.

EDIT: A two-liter Coke on Maui back in 1994 was only $27, and I had enough cash to cover the whole trip $50🤣

And you guys really think things are expensive today???

You must have been getting a "special discount" on gas in 2011, because gas prices didn't really cross that psychological threshold until 2021.

https://example-us-news-site.com/article...old-news-1081540

And that gas price you mentioned from 2011—when you were paying $11.20—that was actually lower than $3.25.

Either they were overcharging you back then, or maybe you were just getting a special rate meant only for you.
https://example-us-news-site.com/article...old-news-1081540
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Adam Lee13 said:I was just scrolling through various sites a bit ago, which is something you—being the genius you are—should probably figure out on your own...😁

Honestly, it's not even that shameful; like, 90% of the population just adopts whatever opinion the media shoves down their throats about any given situation or event.

You can read just about anything on those news sites, but personally, I’d much rather just check the price tags on the shelves.

And by the way, which specific sites were you browsing?
You'll actually learn a lot more from the weekly circulars put out by the big retailers—you can find them online easily enough. 😉

In my view, 90% of people put their trust in the prices they see on the shelf, or even more so, the total on the receipt they get at the register,
rather than some manufactured narrative being pushed by various news outlets.

It seems like those retail catalogs have become the most widely read material among the "general public."

p.s.
Even the sugar was flying off the shelves at Walmart yesterday at $2.75/kg, disappearing almost instantly, which is quite a bit lower than what you'd find at other chains where the standard price is usually $3.25/kg.

I don't want to sound like I'm giving Walmart a free advertisement, though, since some of their products are definitely pricier than the competition.
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Adam Lee13 said:You aren't exactly an expert making deep observations here; you're just regurgitating stuff you read in the news.

Oh, look at him, he's such an observant guy...😁😁

Oh, absolutely, I'm just reciting the headlines for you.

If you're so sure about that, why don't you go find a newspaper that compares the price of lactose-free milk from eight days ago to what it cost yesterday? 🙂🙂

Otherwise, maybe stop jumping to hollow conclusions and playing these little intellectual games.😉

p.s.
Just to make it easier for you, I'm talking about the price at the Walmart in Marinić.
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Noah Martin2 said:Everything feels like Russian propaganda to me when it sounds like I'm reading some low-rent tabloid. People can obsess over my posts all they want; I guess they just find it entertaining.
I didn't even write much, yet you're still attacking me with these made-up arguments.
The link you sent is 👍, which isn't relevant to anything except proving what any grandma already knows.
Maybe you should just flip your position so we can team up like a bunch of amateur day traders—you could play the Bear shouting "sell, sell, sell" at us, while I play the Bull, yelling "buy, buy, buy" against the crowd... actually, I think I'll stick to my guns.

Sent from my M2007J17G using Reddit

I haven't noticed any tabloid gossip, but I have certainly noticed that sugar was around $2.00/lb less than twenty days ago, oil was $3.25/gal two months back, and lactose-free milk dropped from $7.46 yesterday to just $3.25/
. About two months ago, milk jumped from $1.75/gal to $8-$3.00, and bread hit $6.75/loaf.

But hey, maybe that’s just more Russian propaganda or some tabloid nonsense, but that logic doesn't hold up at the checkout counter; you either pay the marked price or you don't buy it at all.
Are only the "little guys" to blame? I don't think so, though they are definitely caught up in this daily struggle.
I'm sure the government will fix everything and bump up Social Security by 6.5%, but I have no idea how the rest of that 40% increase in food prices will be covered—especially since low-income seniors spend their entire available income on groceries, and that's before they even tackle the utility bills. We're all just waiting to see what electricity and heating will cost, especially now that firewood has hit $100 per cubic meter.😉

p.s.
Some retirees will breeze through this, though, because suddenly there's $500 million appearing in their accounts. Good for them, I guess—who cares what flour or chicken costs when the taxpayers are the ones footing the bill for their groceries and utilities anyway?😁
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Noah Martin2 said:You aren't a "Russophile" just because you stick to economics; they call you that because your stance was decided long ago—you seem determined to push some kind of Russian propaganda regardless of the facts, tailoring your narrative to fit.
I mean, what can one even say when these are your arguments... Intel and Apple are already pouring $12 and $17 billion into new FAB-ov in the USA.
Besides, the tension between Taiwan and China won't be resolved as long as their systems of government remain worlds apart. Why would anyone thriving under capitalism even consider merging with that distorted Chinese system? And in the event of a war, TSMC's expertise wouldn't matter much—that level of precision manufacturing requires total sterility, which isn't something they'll be protecting in a conflict.
When you claim to be talking purely about economics, did you somehow miss or fail to connect these points? Which part do you think is more dangerous?

I don't want to derail the conversation since we're drifting off-topic, but I have to wonder if this counts as "Russian propaganda" too.

Keep in mind that nearly 50% of TSMC's production is physically located in China.

https://www.racunalo.com/ovo-su-najv...va-na-svijetu/

China settled the Hong Kong issue using the "one country, two systems" model, which is exactly what they intend to apply to Taiwan.

But let's not wish for that, because once that happens, things are going to get incredibly messy.
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hollowdriver13 As stated by:
I was reading some discussions online where urbanotter was suggesting that both the European Union and the USA might actually find themselves facing a severe chip shortage, leaving us all hanging. It’s a sobering thought when you consider how much our modern infrastructure relies on those tiny pieces of silicon. To add even more fuel to the fire, there are reports coming out of Russia that they are halting the issuance of biometric passports, citing "technical difficulties." Of course, if you look closer at the situation, it feels like a pretty transparent excuse for a massive shortage of the very chips needed to make those documents functional. It makes you wonder how deep this supply chain instability really goes. 🕺

Looking back at how the Chinese responded following Nancy Pelosi's visit, it really makes you stop and think about the sheer scale of the geopolitical fallout we're seeing unfold.
I honestly feel like both Europe and America are going to find it much harder to secure a steady supply of Taiwanese chips than they will to get their hands on Ukrainian wheat or Russian gas.

I’m fairly certain we won't see China imposing any meaningful sanctions anytime soon. If you look at how things played out with the situation involving Russia, it's become crystal clear to them just how ineffective those kinds of measures actually are.
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Nancy Gomez26 said:If they were to open the valves, ExxonMobil likely wouldn't see a massive surge in immediate profits, but they would preserve—or rather, build—their reputation as a reliable supplier, regardless of the politics. Once you destroy that reputation, consumers inevitably pivot toward other suppliers or entirely different technologies. That's how you lose a market forever. Up until now, they have been meticulously constructing their status as the primary provider for Germany. By compromising supply security—which, let's be honest, is a purely political maneuver—they are irreversibly dismantling everything they've invested in. Reputation carries weight. Russia existed long before Putin and will exist long after him; the history of a nation doesn't begin and end with a single individual. History rarely treats states built around cults of personality very kindly.

And you're just out here spinning fairy tales, too.

I honestly don't think ExxonMobil ever had any intention of actually turning off the valves or using gas supplies as a way to hold Europe hostage. If anything, the reality was quite the opposite; they were pouring massive amounts of capital into building out Nord Stream 2, a project that was designed to fully secure a steady flow of gas for decades to come.
If Europe actually had a steady, reliable flow of natural gas, market prices wouldn't have any real reason to spike like they have been. The whole issue is that demand isn't necessarily skyrocketing because people need more energy than ever before; it's just that we aren't getting enough from our existing sources to meet what we already use. I remember sitting around my kitchen table a few years ago, watching the news during a different energy crunch, and thinking how much simpler things would be if we just had the supply lines working the way they were designed to. If the supply was consistent and sufficient, there wouldn't be this artificial pressure driving everything up. It really comes down to simple availability rather than an actual surge in consumption.
Look, even though that pipeline is essentially finished and sitting there at 80% capacity, it’s just staying dormant because of a political decision. It feels like this was driven largely by pressure from the US, which basically sold Europe on this whole narrative about being dangerously over-reliant on Russian gas. In reality, they aren't turning it on because if they did, it would completely undermine the need for all those other gas supply routes we've been working to establish.
The whole conversation surrounding "green energy" and the push to swap out natural gas for alternative power sources feels like it’s perpetually stuck in the planning stages. It isn't just a matter of flipping a switch; transitioning our entire infrastructure requires an astronomical amount of capital and decades of dedicated development to ensure these new sources can actually meet our massive energy demands. I remember sitting through a town hall meeting back in my hometown in Ohio a few years ago where they discussed similar shifts, and the sheer scale of the logistical nightmare became very clear. Beyond the cost, we have to face the reality that in several current industrial technologies, natural gas remains absolutely indispensable. We can't just wish away a resource that serves as the backbone for so much of our modern production.
I've been sitting here wondering about the actual mechanics of how we transition to a green grid while keeping our food supply secure. It really makes me think about the logistical leap we’re trying to make. Specifically, I'm curious about how we intend to produce synthetic fertilizers using only solar and wind power. We know that modern agriculture relies heavily on those fertilizers to maintain high yields and keep grocery prices from spiraling out of control for the average family. If we move away from traditional energy sources, how exactly do we scale up the production of these essential nutrients through renewables? It feels like a massive technical puzzle that we haven't quite solved yet if we want to ensure food remains both abundant and affordable.
I’ve been thinking quite a bit about our energy landscape lately, and honestly, it feels like we're facing an uphill battle that won't be solved by trendy tech alone. When you look at the reality of the situation, the United States—much like much of Europe—is fundamentally short on the raw materials and energy density required to sustain a massive industrial economy. We are essentially tethered to global imports, and that dependency isn't something that just disappears overnight. I remember reading an analysis a few years back about how supply chains can shift almost instantly, leaving entire regions vulnerable, and it really stuck with me. While everyone loves talking about the potential of solar panels and wind turbines, I find myself feeling a bit skeptical about the idea that they can carry the entire load. No matter how much we invest in renewables, we can't simply wish away our need for consistent, high-output power sources. Without addressing the fundamental lack of domestic resources, we'll always be reliant on someone else's terms, and all the wind farms in the world might not be enough to break that cycle.
We’re certainly moving away from that heavy reliance on Russian gas, which feels like a necessary step, but I can't help but feel we're just trading one problem for another. The reality is that we're shifting our dependency toward Liquefied Natural Gas, yet we simply don't have the infrastructure in place to handle it. We lack the necessary capacity for both the liquefaction process and the massive scale of transport required to make this work reliably. It's one of those situations where the solution looks great on paper, but when you look at the actual logistics, it feels like we might be heading straight into another kind of energy bottleneck.
I’ve been thinking quite a bit about the current shift toward regasified LNG, and honestly, it feels like we might be walking into a bit of a trap. When you look at the math, buying liquefied gas is consistently more expensive than relying on traditional pipeline transport. As we lean more heavily into this pricier fuel, our domestic manufacturers are forced to bake those soaring energy costs directly into the price of everything they produce. It creates this worrying trend where our businesses start losing their edge, becoming increasingly uncompetitive compared to economies that still have access to massive, steady supplies of cheaper gas. It makes me wonder if we're trading long-term industrial stability for short-term energy shifts.
It isn’t just the cost of heating and fuel that's climbing; we’re seeing grocery prices skyrocket too, which honestly hits families much harder on a day-to-day basis. I remember talking to a neighbor last week who was staring at her receipt in total disbelief—it’s one thing to pay more at the pump, but when the basic stuff you need to feed your kids starts costing twice as much, that’s when the real pressure sets in for most Americans.
I’ve noticed that some specific products shot up in price by as much as 100% just on the mere rumor of a shortage, even though we never actually faced a real scarcity. It reminds me of that time back when my local grocery store in Chicago started hiking prices on certain pantry staples just because people were whispering about supply chain hiccups, despite the shelves remaining fully stocked. It feels like we saw these massive price spikes driven entirely by anticipation rather than any actual lack of inventory.
It feels like we’re watching a massive geopolitical pivot happen in real-time. Russia isn't just looking toward the East anymore; they are doubling down on that direction with everything they have. It’s not just about those massive pipeline projects stretching out toward China, either. They are aggressively building up their own LNG regasification capacities to make sure they can ship energy wherever the demand shifts. It’s a calculated, long-term move to reshape their entire economic landscape.
Japan just finalized an agreement to purchase liquefied natural gas from Sakhalin, and at the same time, China is moving full steam ahead with expanding its pipeline network to feed the southern regions. It looks like they are really leaning into making cheaper gas more accessible across the country, which should significantly boost their overall consumption. I remember reading a similar analysis about energy shifts in the Pacific years ago, and seeing how quickly these massive infrastructure projects come together always strikes me as a testament to how much the global energy landscape is shifting right under our feet.
Once the second phase of the Power of Siberia pipeline is finally completed, China will have a much steadier supply of natural gas right at its doorstep. This shift means they won't have to rely nearly as much on importing expensive liquefied natural gas, which is going to give their domestic economy a serious competitive edge on the global stage. I remember reading a few years back about how much energy volatility can cripple manufacturing sectors, and seeing this kind of infrastructure move really makes you realize how much they are positioning themselves for long-term stability.

The tension between China and the US seems to be reaching a boiling point lately, and I can't help but worry about where this is all heading. If things really boil over there, we could see China and Russia pulling even closer together, leaving the West and Europe essentially stranded. It wouldn't just be an energy crisis—though losing access to gas would be devastating enough—it would be a total technological blackout. We are talking about a massive shortage of semiconductors sourced from Taiwan, China, and South Korea. When you consider that roughly 70% of the world's advanced chips come from those specific regions, the realization hits home: without them, the sophisticated tech we rely on every single day simply ceases to exist. It’s a precarious position to be in, and frankly, it feels like we're walking a very thin line.
It all boils down to one thing: ensuring America maintains its global hegemony, where Western corporations hold the ultimate authority and make every critical decision that matters.

Yet, whenever we try to have a serious discussion focused strictly on economic realities, we’re immediately branded as "Russia-lovers"—it's become this convenient little label used to shut down any meaningful debate.
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Arthur Miller7 said:I'm with you on that, it's all pretty obvious to me. My question is actually for this group of forum users who are fighting so hard against sanctions. Like, what's the actual alternative here? What was the West supposed to do? That old-school logic about "we need to maintain good relations with Russia" just doesn't cut it anymore. The Russians are blackmailing us. After Ukraine, if they start demanding something else—and let's face it, they will, because why would they stop?—what is the West even supposed to do then? Since you guys are all squawking so much about how things should have been, why don't you come up with those big, grand solutions to bring world peace and keep everyone warm?

The only thing we could've—or should've—done was not to cave from the very start. Look, we're here right now because everyone was too worried about the financial fallout, and now we're right back in the same financial crap. We should have been phasing out Russian energy step-by-step so that when we finally said "enough," we wouldn't be in this pathetic situation. But yeah, easy to say now, right? You can't just flip a switch overnight. If we had started planning nuclear plants and other alternatives earlier, Putin would've seen the writing on the wall and launched his "special operation" way sooner. By being soft on Russia, we basically just made them stronger than they ever were (even back in 2008), while they just kept us on a leash and squeezed us slowly.

It’s been said and written time and time again, but it feels like some people are simply choosing to be deaf and blind to the warnings that were already coming our way.

It never occurred to anyone, much like it hasn't today, to actually sit down and talk with Russia to resolve existing tensions instead of dragging Ukraine into NATO, establishing military bases, and positioning missiles in a way that makes Russia feel threatened.

I remember reading about how when the USSR placed missiles in Cuba, American planes carrying nuclear bombs were already in the air; if an agreement hadn't been reached at the very last second, the world would look very different today.

But I suppose I am just wasting my breath here, and I might as well end up in total "self-isolation" for trying to make sense of it all.
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Anthony Hill5 said:Why does it seem like the European Union spends every single day shooting itself in the foot twelve times and then aimlessly firing four shots into its own head? While the sanctions against Russia only serve to tighten their resolve and allow their economy to flourish, the EU continues to wither under its own misguided policies. Is it really any wonder that they are struggling? Honestly, it feels like it’s only a matter of time before the whole system completely collapses under the weight of its own incompetence.

See, I told you so.
That’s why you see so many people lately questioning whether the European Union actually slapped those sanctions on Russia to hurt them, or if they were really just pulling the rug out from under themselves.😁
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analogbear5 said:When the Russia-apologists start talking about Russians surviving oppression and poverty—comparing them to spoiled Americans who act like delicate snowflakes because they can't handle a tiny dip in their comfort levels—I think I know exactly who they're actually talking about.

Pure projection. God forbid we have to pay a few extra cents for our sushi and craft beer!

I think you've hit on a real point there; it feels like people in this country have become incredibly spoiled lately. I was reading about some group getting worked up because they heard the price of sushi might go up, and they actually started organizing protests over it. It reminds me of a time back in Chicago when my neighbor nearly lost his mind because his favorite local deli changed their sandwich pricing—it’s that same sense of entitlement where any minor inconvenience feels like a national crisis.

I’ve been spending some time reflecting on the video I just watched, and it really got me thinking about how much our perspectives shift depending on the lens we choose to look through. It’s one of those pieces that doesn't just present facts, but forces you to sit with the weight of the implications. I remember sitting in a small coffee shop back in Seattle last autumn, watching the rain hit the window, feeling that same sense of quiet contemplation about how interconnected everything in our society truly is. There is a certain gravity to the way these events unfold, and it makes you realize that nothing happens in a vacuum. We often try to simplify complex issues into neat little boxes, but life rarely works that way. It’s more like a tapestry—messy, layered, and deeply complicated. As I sat there processing the footage, I found myself wondering if we are all collectively searching for the same clarity amidst all the noise. It isn't always easy to confront the reality presented here, but I think there is a genuine necessity in facing it head-on if we want to understand where we are actually headed as a nation.

I think I might actually take Ivanka Trump’s advice on this one. Honestly, there’s something about sitting down with a plate of comfort food—maybe some homemade sliders and a side of jerky—that makes the whole situation with the sanctions we've leveled against Russia feel a little more manageable. It’s much easier to stomach the economic fallout when you have a bit of solace in a good meal. 😉
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Robert Barrett6 said:It doesn't matter what kind of stove you're using, from an old cookstove to a full central heating system. Even if the fire dies down, the heat lingers. In our 3,000-square-foot house, we only had to light the central furnace about three times a day.

Besides, with central heating, it’s standard practice to install a thermal storage tank. You'll have hot water running through the system for hours after the flame is completely out.

Even Ivanka Trump has come up with a few "helpful" suggestions for when sanctions hit.😁

Ferment some cabbage, polish your boots, order a pork roast...
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Thomas Stewart8 said:And?
Where exactly does your logic lead you when you compare getting high on chaos by breaking things versus just having a good time dancing?

The assumption here is that in both scenarios, people are partying while under the influence.

That’s beside the point,
but my own way of looking at things allows for plenty of diversity, and I certainly don't believe that everyone needs to share my specific customs, habits, or methods of having a good time.

At this point, the only thing that isn't entirely "clear" to me is whether these sanctions apply to spouses as well, or if they strictly target the individuals on the list—and honestly, I wonder if they might even extend to the type of music someone listens to while they're out celebrating.

Let's get back to the actual issue of the sanctions, because that is the real subject at hand, rather than debating how every individual chooses to spend their leisure time.
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casualtiger2 said:Dmitri Peskov’s wife is out in Greece living her best life—smashing plates and having a blast
Total class act.

According to the Los Angeles Times, her little getaway in one of the EU nations has sparked a massive backlash online. People are rightfully asking how she even managed to get into Greece when both she and her husband are under sanctions.

What can you expect from a Russian peasant?

She could have just danced like a typical lady and then gone to get tested for drugs.
Who cares about the alcohol levels? As long as it isn't drugs, it's fine.
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wiredseal7 said:Driving a Chinese car through Washington, D.C. and my take on them:


Apparently, prices have jumped 50% just because everyone wants one—and word on the street is that Chinese manufacturers finally stepped up their game. They’re claiming reliability is solid since they’re sourcing critical parts—transmissions, engines, you name it—from the EU, the USA, and Japan.

Basically, they’re squeezing out all the legacy brands that used to dominate the market. Those sanctions are a total self-inflicted wound, especially for the European Union and Japanese auto industries. 🤦
Even if there’s a Western engine under the hood, the lion's share of the profit still ends up in Chinese hands—which just fuels their ability to crush the competition.

It’s staggering to think that every third car produced globally now comes from China.

The Chinese Chery is even talking about setting up production facilities within the Russian Federation.

Now, the Russian market isn't exactly massive,
but if they try to walk this path without accounting for how difficult importing Western cars has become, they might find themselves heading nowhere fast.

But I suppose facts don't matter much when people are determined to ignore them.

Still, even with these shifts, consumers won't exactly run out of options.

https://hr.expertevolux.com/top-samy...lej-iz-kitaja/
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pronto2 said:I just can't tell if those EU clowns—sorry, let me say "experts"—are consciously shooting themselves in the foot here, or if
they were all just caught completely off guard by this mess.

It’s all retirees on life support.

With only a 2.2% adjustment to social security, those machines aren't doing much to help them.

About two weeks ago at a Walmart near Marinić's in San Francisco, they put two pallets of sugar on sale for about $0.50 a pound.
Within an hour, there wasn't a single grain of sugar left on those pallets.

p.s.
Without doing some "expert" study of the weekly circulars and sales lists, you'll see fewer and fewer people going out to shop.
I watch the shoppers closely; most of them walk around holding a little scrap of paper listing the sale items, and those products vanish from the shelves in a heartbeat.

The sanctions are clearly working.😁
Sanctions on Russia in War in Ukraine ·
Nathan Thomas12 said:Korac, if a Western buyer has Euros sitting in their account and transfers those Euros directly to Gazprombank, what currency did they actually use for the payment?
Gazprom converts that money into rubles to settle with themselves. Sure, they could convert it into Yuan, but that doesn't change the reality that the Western buyer made the payment using Euros.

Furthermore, you haven't addressed the Russian GDP crash of 40% when measured in rubles!!! So, I take it you agree.

The Western buyer was buying rubles, not paying for gas.

You can only pay for gas in rubles, and you can acquire those rubles using Yuan if that's what you have on hand.

I don't really have anything to add there; the Russian economy dropped by about 4%, which is quite different from the 11.5% or higher many were anticipating.

It seems a few people's crystal balls were a bit off.

That dip wasn't exactly a shocker, considering how many Western companies pulled out of Russia due to the sanctions.
At the end of the day, most of that is just service-sector stuff. A Russian citizen isn't going to starve just because they can't grab a McDonald's burger, but a German might be shivering in 20-degree weather when it hits -20 outside if the gas runs out or becomes prohibitively expensive.
Word is that prices hit $3,000 per 1,000m3, while Russian gas was being sold for under $300.😉

Reuters isn't exactly delivering any sunshine regarding the German economy lately.

https://www.rekreativno.info/2022/08...85C2msIvaXWz20