Posts by Lawrence Reed3

crimsonranger3 said:I know they listed me because they asked for my Social Security number. But nobody has reached out.
It's been seven days now; is there any way to check if I've actually been added to the contact list?

driftingranger2 said:Just call your doctor; they can check if there's a red flag on your file.
Or hit up the pharmacy where you pick up your meds.
Check your insurance statement—if you're under quarantine, it'll show up right there.

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But what if someone doesn't get an official notice? Like, if they don't go to the doctor or the pharmacy regularly, they might have no way of knowing! Then they could end up getting fined just because they didn't realize they were supposed to be isolating. There's definitely enough ground for a legal complaint there, I think.

crimsonranger3 said:I assume that call from them actually means something.

Anyway, beers tomorrow? 🤣

Honestly, if you haven't received an official notice from the health department, there's really nothing to worry about—maybe your friend just forgot to mention it. I actually had an acquaintance who tested positive once; we were definitely in contact, but he didn't officially list me as a close contact, he just sent me a private DM. And that was it! I thanked him for letting me know (which felt totally unnecessary, I guess) and then just went about my life like usual.

wanderingbadger77 said:You're acting all rebellious, "oh this, oh that"... yet you still put on the mask at work. I bet if they ordered you into self-isolation, you'd follow suit too, or maybe you'll just happily pay $8,000, $16,000... keep the list going.
You're acting like a total kid... basically Charlie Brown.

I stay active too—swimming, cycling—but when life hands you something you have to deal with, you deal with it. I don't play hero for nothing when I know I can't walk away with a win.
Besides, you can always work out at home.

Actually, I don't really wear a mask at work anymore, or even when I'm at the grocery store... and honestly, nobody says anything to me. So, yeah... I think people have just loosened up a bit because of that. And from what I hear, there are all sorts of ways people avoid staying isolated... it's not like they're monitoring everyone 24/7, so people always find a way to get out. I mean, jeez, we aren't criminals—we shouldn't be treated like that.

Brandon Torres3 said:Personally, I wasn't too worried about it because I have a stationary bike at home. I actually spent about two months stuck inside back during that lockdown in March and April, and I made sure to hop on that bike and work out for at least an hour every single day. Since I usually hit up a local Gold's Gym, working out from home kept me from feeling too sidelined. I even ended up losing some weight! When you really want to, you can always make it work. There are tons of exercises you can do right in your living room to keep yourself from falling into bad shape. Plus, it's huge for your mental health. I did manage to sneak outside a bit during that time too—just a quick walk or a trip to the grocery store—but things were definitely different back then.

It's great if someone can afford to have all that equipment at home... personally, I much prefer getting some fresh air outside. During that whole quarantine thing, I was out and about normally—I didn't follow the restrictions to a T, I hung out with friends and everything. It felt to me like things in New York City or other big hubs were way stricter than in smaller towns like San Francisco and the surrounding areas, where things are definitely more chill...

Self-isolation is actually pretty bad for your health—at least, that's what this kinesiology professor is saying! I mean, it just makes sense, right? Being stuck inside for 14 days straight without any way to get out can't possibly be good for you...

"During isolation periods, people tend to move much less while eating significantly more calories," the professor points out. "Did you know that in just 14 days, your oxygen levels can drop by seven percent? Your strength and muscle mass could dip by five to ten percent. That’s only in two weeks! Plus, the fat buildup around your organs is going to spike quite a bit. People aren't being properly warned about this before they go into isolation, so there will definitely be health consequences"—though he adds that we won't really know the full extent until later.

Personally, I'm one of those people who works out pretty regularly—I usually go for a run about 6 or 7 days a week 6.2 miles—so there is absolutely no way I'm staying cooped up at home for 14 days without being able to at least get a workout in... so, I don't think I'll be agreeing to any kind of isolation or anything like that... for some very obvious, common-sense reasons.

Paul Wilson72 said:They really need to file a class-action lawsuit on behalf of everyone who was forced into unnecessary quarantine for two main reasons:
- loss of income,
- compensation for unlawful deprivation of liberty.

Matthew Jackson2 said:If the government were actually forced to foot the full bill for everyone stuck at home—you know, those folks who haven't tested positive but are still legally barred from working because of these ridiculous self-isolation mandates—I guarantee you we’d see the rules changing overnight...

That’s exactly what they should have been changing—that specific payout rule! It feels like they’re more than happy to rewrite laws just to justify the emergency task force, or even to punish folks for not wearing silly masks or following certain mandates, but suddenly they aren't willing to add a clause that ensures people in isolation get their full pay protected. It's frustrating, I guess. And man, imagine what happens once they start unfreezing bank accounts and garnishments again—what if someone already facing a levy ends up stuck in quarantine? That's going to be a mess...

Kimberly Lopez65 said:But look, if you're stuck in isolation and your job allows it, why wouldn't you just work from home? Why bother with sick leave if you can work remotely—which plenty of us still do—especially if you aren't feeling symptomatic and are perfectly capable of getting things done?
I make significantly more than $2000, and losing that much money based on what Medicare would cover would be a massive hit to my monthly budget. And yeah, I work from home every other week, plus I can usually request to stay remote even during my office weeks.

Not everyone has a job that allows them to work from home, you know? I really think the rules should have been handled differently—maybe in coordination with employers—so the boss could cover the difference up to a full salary... Plus, there's the whole issue with this quarantine thing where you're basically stuck inside your house for 15 days straight.
There is absolutely no way I could handle being cooped up inside for 15 days while feeling perfectly healthy. I'd probably lose my mind and end up getting sick just from the stress! I honestly feel like they should respect people's needs, especially if they live somewhere outside the city where they can at least get out into nature. I exercise regularly and go for runs—staying active is a big part of my life—and I don't think anyone should have the right to take that away from me.
As long as things stay like this—between the financial strain and feeling like you're being treated like a criminal under house arrest—I'm planning to do whatever I can to avoid reporting any potential exposure to anyone, which means avoiding those mandatory quarantine orders altogether.

casualorca5 said:From what I gather from others:
starting on day one, you file with Medicare, and they pay the employee directly.
based on your six-month average, you get 100% of the base rate, though there is a monthly cap.$1419/month.
Healthcare workers are a different case entirely.......👍

So, someone pulling in a decent net salary $2000—say if they have to go into quarantine—ends up losing money for that month $667. Honestly, it’s probably no wonder people are saying folks are avoiding reporting cases or even faking contacts just to dodge it. I guess it’s just easier to stay quiet and move on.

Frank Martin2 said:So, Lutore Lex—given that I know from your previous posts on this forum that you don't suffer from dysgraphia or any similar condition, the way you wrote your last post suggests one of three things:

a) You’re drunk and/or high.
b) You're sick (maybe a fever so high you've lost touch with reality).
c) You're just a provocateur looking for a reaction.

If it's "b," let us know somehow so we can call an ambulance to your door.

None of the above! I was just typing super fast, and my keyboard is honestly kind of garbage.

mellownomad7 said:Everyone’s terrified of being stuck in quarantine, not actually getting sick. 🕺

Brođanin is sitting in isolation totally blindsided by how his friends are acting: "They barely even call to check in... They're actually begging me not to list them as contacts!"

My friends and I actually have this sort of unwritten agreement—if any one of us happens to test positive, we aren't going to point fingers or list everyone else as a contact, since we haven't really hung out in a while anyway. I really do feel like people are just more worried about the isolation aspect than the virus itself. I mean, if you catch it, you catch it—you're going to get better whether you're at home or out and about, especially if the symptoms stay pretty mild. It’s summer, too! Who actually wants to be stuck inside for 15 days when it's 90 degrees out instead of being at the beach?

Bryan Taylor6 said:When everything starts moving this fast and so spontaneously... 😁

I honestly think that cell phone tracking law is probably going to fizzle out too:
Are they giving up on tracking citizens through their mobile phones?

The amendments to the law that would have allowed the government to track people via their smartphones have been sent to the U.S. Congress for a second reading. Does this mean the administration has basically thrown in the towel?

- The whole point of that law was to catch folks who were mass-returning from ski resorts in places like Italy or Austria when the outbreak first kicked off. But since that incubation period has passed, we're seeing how the CDC and other federal agencies are looking at ways to use modern tech to better spot infected people—or those who aren't following isolation rules.

I guess they’ll be brainstorming along those lines now, though I'm not really sure what will actually come out of those talks right now, said the official.

If it's heading to a second reading, maybe we can assume the crisis is calming down? If so, does this law even make sense anymore?

- Well, obviously, if the crisis settles down, then it doesn't make sense. That's why we need to do everything possible to get things back to normal ASAP. We just have to stick to the guidelines.

If there are people testing positive who still want to travel—even if they're supposed to be isolating—we definitely have to keep an eye on them. It's about appealing to their conscience, sure, but also having the police and federal inspectors step in where needed, the official added.

http://www.nytimes.com/news/US_updates_refresh=true

Bryan Taylor6 said:Today the papers are all over this, claiming everything is basically unconstitutional. Apparently, the state legislature needs to vote on it, but they finally realized—after twenty-some days—that we might actually want to follow the law since it’s already on the books... 🙂 They say it'll move forward through some emergency procedure, though I have no clue when. We've got Easter coming up, then Memorial Day... we'll probably see something by June 🙂

By the time they actually pass the law, those measures will probably be canceled anyway.

Joshua Gray75 said:I am still somewhat in the dark regarding the specific metrics used to determine which municipalities are deemed "eligible for consolidation" (as we see happening in parts of California, for instance)...
Aside from those official criteria—it really just comes down to whoever happens to be holding the reins of power at the time. ☕

I think I mentioned somewhere above:
He pointed out how the local county administration basically "utilized" Section 18 of the Homeland Security Act—which, if I recall correctly, allows multiple jurisdictions to coordinate their efforts together.

He also highlighted that the decision regarding free movement was actually made possible by activating those mutual aid agreements for coordinating Civil Defense activities—agreements that were signed by the mayors and local officials in those former municipal areas, and then given the green light by the National Emergency Management Agency.

I mean, looking at this—it seems like there might be some sort of secret deal happening over in the Midwest region—to just monitor the main entry point into the state, since controlling everything else wouldn't really make any sense, I guess.

Tyler Thompson51 said:Local "emergency task forces"—aka reliable gossip sources—who have definitely felt the sting firsthand.

Around here, in the "developed" Pacific Northwest, it’s basically just public lynch mobs and medieval witch hunts.

I used to talk trash about my American friends, but now? I'm arming up—and I don't trust the government as far as I can throw them anymore.

Which part of the North Sea are you talking about? Don't tell me it's California!

George Murphy12 said:A woman showing up at the USPS with COVID, doing her business, and then posting online: "I have coronavirus, disinfect this branch." Response from USPS: They shut the whole office down

Probably true. Still think people like that should be stuck in quarantine instead of wandering around while everyone else gets grounded by the county...

Honestly, that woman was either totally losing it or just incredibly dim-witted.
I mean, seriously, if you already know you're sick and you still decide to go out and wander around, there's really nothing left to say. It just makes zero sense.

Joshua Gray75 said:And what about the rest of America... does that just not matter? 🙄

It seems quite clear that this whole business of "grouping municipalities" into these exclusive zones isn't happening anywhere else in the States... perhaps? 🤔

Are the citizens in the other regions simply second-class residents now? Are we not all meant to be equal under the Constitution?

Is there a legal expert out there who can make sense of this logic—or does everything truly just depend on the whims of local power brokers...?? 🤔

So, the idea is that you can lift such a restriction—entirely—but only for a select few...? 🤔

I actually stumbled upon this in an article
"Dino Kozlevac, head of the regional Emergency Management headquarters, confirmed in [City Name] on Tuesday that the National Emergency Command approved their request. This includes requests from the county, several cities, and municipalities to allow residents to move freely within the areas of former municipalities without needing passes.

The decision covers the areas of the former municipalities of [City A], [City B], [City C], [City D], [City E], and [City F] along with their neighboring towns. For the cities of [City G], [City H], and [City I], as well as the towns of [Town A], [Town B], and [Town C], the changes will kick in after Easter since that area was hit hardest by the infection, Kozlevac noted during an emergency press conference this afternoon.

He added that the county basically 'utilized' Section 18 of the Emergency Management Act, which lets multiple units coordinate their operations together.

He highlighted that the freedom of movement was made possible by activating mutual coordination agreements signed by local mayors and officials in those former municipal areas, which the National Emergency Command then gave the green light.

"I'm glad the National Command listened and approved our request; it’s going to make life so much easier for people here. So many residents here rely on the neighboring town or city for their livelihood, and given the headaches with the central e-pass system, the Command's decision is definitely the right call," Kozlevac said, thanking the National Command members for their understanding.

He also mentioned that "only through mutual coordination, listening to folks on the ground, and respecting local info can we successfully wrap this whole situation up." He also announced that markets in [City Name] would reopen Wednesday, though he warned they'd be shut down immediately if they don't follow the rules.

I think they were looking into something similar for [City J], too.
Looking back at the previous posts, it seems like this stuff is starting to apply to the rest of the US as well. Whatever.

Joshua Gray75 said:But what does this actually look like in practice—and more importantly, who does it affect? I mean, which specific townships or municipalities are we talking about merging here? Is it based on total land area, population density, or perhaps even infection rates from recent health crises? Is this just some preliminary announcement to stir the pot... or has something definitive already been drafted somewhere in the bureaucracy?

It’s officially in effect starting today! Basically, they’ve split up the region into seven different zones—which sort of overlap with the old county lines. You can move around freely within your own zone, though. So, for instance, since I'm in a place like San Diego, I could probably head over to somewhere like Fresno or even San Bernardino without a hitch, but I wouldn't be able to make it to Los Angeles or San Francisco right now.

granitecyclist said:I was thinking that we should perhaps start gradually introducing "virus-free zones." For instance, if a place like Savannah, Des Moines, or maybe even a smaller town like Napa hasn't seen any active cases for more than two or three weeks, then I guess we could slowly start normalizing life there. Of course, my thought is that people from neighboring areas should still be restricted from entering those specific spots until those nearby locations have also cleared a reasonable quarantine period. That way, we might be able to steadily expand these healthy zones.☕

I was just reading somewhere that they might be loosening up some of the restrictions in places like California soon—it sounds like things are finally starting to open up! Honestly, where we are right now, it feels like we're almost completely corona-free already.
Guess what? The farmers' market is opening up again—and honestly, it looks like they've finally loosened up those traffic restrictions around the area! It’s about time, right? I guess it'll be much easier to get in and out now—fingers crossed!
It looks like things are mostly fine around our area—I mean, most of the impact seems concentrated right near things like Napa, though even then, it’s really not a huge number of people. Plus, since everyone is staying home and keeping to themselves, and we all pretty much know who's who here, it's easier to track. The rest of the region seems totally clear! So, I guess the idea that things might actually start getting back to normal by May 1st—at least for us—isn't as crazy as it sounds. Maybe we'll actually see some progress!

Finally, something that actually makes sense!
https://www.nytimes.com/article/life-and-style-news-updates-daily

Joseph Taylor11 said:Hmm... maybe in big cities... but out here, one police station covers several different counties. In other words, the precinct that issued my ID isn't even in my actual town—mostly because my town doesn't even exist on its own.

🤷

None of the small towns actually have them—they're all located in the bigger cities.
The link above is for the San Francisco area, and that's basically how our local officials suggested splitting up the county when they were talking about movement restrictions.