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Seriously, northernstag7, are you actually being that naive? River grabs coffee with Aynur practically every single day—he knows everything about her. 😁

Just because Michael Ramos4 wasn't trolling once doesn't change the fact that she is trolling hard this time around. And thank God I have more screenshots from you guys.

For those of you with the memory of a goldfish, let me refresh your minds.😁

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goldenfalcon7;47097052 said:Look, don't twist the "situation" (not the "facts")

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Well, Emir finally said it... Feriha isn't twisting the situation... clearly, he knows her best. But from the start, Feriha twists every possible situation and fact... and back when Emir wasn't even aware, she was lying through her teeth.

I just hope Emir won't fall for Feriha's little manipulations anymore, even though he's becoming aware of them. It would be pointless now—since Emir can see and know that Fer is twisting things—to claim otherwise.

Seriously... I'm really not making this up.

What does that sentence have to do with what I actually said... about how Feriha twists situations and facts from the get-go? What are you trying to prove? The word "facts" isn't even the point of contention here, and I didn't present them as Emir's specific words... I stated them myself. Like how, right at the beginning, she twisted the fact that she was a working-class girl into the false fact that she was a hotelier's daughter, and everyone accepted it as truth.

She also twisted the fact that she couldn't afford expensive shoes into the fact that she could, by using the building's reserve fund to buy those shoes... and buying them for someone else.

She turned every single fact related to herself into a lie that others believed was reality. Is that clear enough for you now?

Dana Booth26... as always, your posts say so much. I agree with everything you said... including how Feriha conveniently forgets everything good Emir did for her, while simultaneously forgetting all the terrible things she did to him—things she won't even look at him for, because that slap ruined everything for her. I wonder if everything Emir did was worth his suffering, his sadness, and his regret.
Regarding everything that's happened so far... Feriha feels zero responsibility for anything... because there's no room for regret, forgiveness, or making things right.

Roman... Hadassah always tells the truth. She says it like it's none of her business, but she hits the nail on the head. And we see that Feriha never stood up to or protested against those lies and evasions—she probably agrees with her aunt. The only thing she might do is roll her eyes... or maybe she just isn't totally sold on her aunt's words. But hey, rolling your eyes when someone holds your feet to the fire is a classic move, hihihi.
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Now, let's look at what's actually happening in the show.

Regret #1: Toward the main character and taking responsibility.

http://postimg.org/gallery/6vx8u21g/e25e2ecd/

Regret #2.

http://postimg.org/gallery/5m12ycpg/4eb88146/

Regret toward her mother, or Regret #3.

http://postimg.org/gallery/7jfzzqvo/badfec38/

Regret toward everyone, aka Regret and Taking Responsibility #4.

http://postimg.org/gallery/22tnudas/430f523f/

Shame before her father, or Regret #5.

http://postimg.org/gallery/a9r62fo4/9e322910/

No, Michael Ramos4 isn't trolling. It's just that we're all watching a different show, and she's the only one watching the actual series.

Raymond Gray2 said:@Dana Nelson thanks for standing up for Feriha's honor! It might sound silly since she's just a fictional character, but while we're watching this show, she feels real to us! And that whole thing you wrote is a massive LIE, a total FABRICATION that you went out of your way to enlarge, bold, and back up with clips! Nice work!
Now you're coming off a bit contradictory, because while I agree we can handle different opinions, we shouldn't tolerate someone making stuff up just to drag someone else through the mud (even if it is a character from a series)

If anyone wants to write a brand new script for the show, they should probably just reach out to MedYapim and ask for a job as a screenwriter.

I’m actually volunteering to buy a one-way ticket to New York City for the people involved here.

That seems to be the obvious solution to this whole mess—we'll stick to the actual script and the real plot points, and then we can all discuss the show's developments in peace. 😁

Just my little way of poking fun at all this nonsense. 🙂

So, while we’re all sitting here having this deep discussion about whether someone is trolling—only to reach the grand conclusion that Michael Ramos4 definitely isn't—the exact same user decides to start trolling again within the same 24-hour window. Honestly, give me a break.

I honestly don't have the mental energy to dig through the entire history of this trolling—or the moderators' complete failure to step in and stop it. It only took one day for me to realize that was enough..

Since we’re all out here throwing GIFs around and nitpicking every little sentence—fine, let me justify today’s trolling session with a series of visual aids, just because... Just a mountain of evidence here that they're clearly just trolling.

Take a look at the post below. The user is claiming that Feriha shows absolutely no remorse and isn't taking any responsibility for her actions up to this point.

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goldenfalcon7;47097052 said:Look, don't try to spin the "situation"—because you aren't exactly spinning "facts."]

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Well, Emir finally spoke up... "Feriha, stop twisting things." Honestly, he knows her better than anyone—it's pretty obvious at this point. Since the very beginning, Feriha has been spinning every possible scenario and distorting the facts. It’s wild how she managed to keep him completely in the dark while she was busy lying through her teeth.

I just really hope Emir stops falling for Feriha’s little lies—especially since he clearly sees right through them. It would be totally pointless to argue otherwise now that Emir can see exactly what she's doing... he knows her games all too well.

Look, seriously... I’m not making this up.

What does that sentence have to do with what I actually said? From the very beginning, Feriha has been twisting situations and distorting facts. What exactly are you trying to prove here? The facts aren't up for debate—and I didn't claim they were Emir's words. That was my own observation. It’s just how it happened. Right at the start, she flipped the fact that she was a simple girl from a modest home into this fake reality where she was the daughter of a hotel mogul—and everyone just swallowed it as gospel.

She basically twisted the fact that she couldn't afford those designer shoes into a justification for using the building's reserve fund to buy them—all while acting like she was doing it for everyone else's sake. Real classy move.

She basically took every single solid fact and twisted them into complete lies—lies that everyone else actually swallowed as the truth. Is it crystal clear now?

Dana Booth26... as usual, your posts say so much between the lines. I actually agree with everything you said—especially regarding how Feriha seems to have completely wiped the slate clean. She’s conveniently forgotten every single good thing Emir did for her, and more importantly, she's acting like she hasn't done plenty of damage to him in return. She can't even look him in the eye anymore—apparently, that one slap just shattered everything for her. It makes me wonder, though: was everything Emir sacrificed actually worth it? Is all his suffering, the heartbreak, and the constant regret really worth the price he's paying?
After everything that’s gone down up to this point... Feriha doesn't seem to feel any sense of responsibility for anything—and honestly, if there isn't room for regret, forgiveness, and actually trying to do better, then what's the point?

As for Roman... Hadassah always tells it like it is. She acts like she’s staying out of it—just minding her own business while delivering the killing blow—but let's be real: we all saw how she didn't lift a finger to protest those little white lies from Feriha. Honestly, she probably agrees with her aunt behind closed doors. Maybe she rolled her eyes once or twice—or maybe she just wasn't buying what the aunt was selling—but let's face it, that eye roll was pure gold when someone started lecturing her. Hehe.
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Alright, let's actually get into what's happening in this show.

Regret 1 regarding the main character—and taking some responsibility here.

http://postimg.org/gallery/6vx8u21g/e25e2ecd/

regret 2

http://postimg.org/gallery/5m12ycpg/4eb88146/

Regret 1 toward mother, or maybe just regret 3.

http://postimg.org/gallery/7jfzzqvo/badfec38/

Regret to all of you—or rather, my formal apology and assumption of responsibility, part 4.

http://postimg.org/gallery/22tnudas/430f523f/

Regret and Shame Before God—or rather, Regret 5

http://postimg.org/gallery/a9r62fo4/9e322910/

Look, Michael Ramos4 isn't trolling—it just feels like we’re all watching a completely different show while he’s the only one tuned into the actual series. 😁

I personally have zero beef with Michael Ramos4; let him troll all he wants.

But honestly? If this thread were being moderated properly, neither he nor anyone else would feel the need to troll in the first place.

This isn't some witch hunt against Michael Ramos4 and his two friends—it’s just a standard request for decent moderation around here.

For the same reason, I’m not going to bother replying to those previous posts where I was mentioned unfairly—I really have nothing to say regarding a single moderator's private vendetta alongside two buddies.

rustydrifter10, please, give us an answer! Thanks. 🙂

Dana Booth26 said:I hear people are calling me out, so I figure I’ll just jump in and give you my two cents directly.
This has been hands down the toughest subject I’ve ever tackled on here. It’s honestly overwhelming. From day one, I was stunned by how aggressive everyone’s stance was on this, and then I even got confirmation of that hostility in an off-topic thread... at first, I thought they were joking, but it turns out they weren't.

And since when does anyone get to decide we all have to agree? Who else besides me gets to provide authentic interpretations of my own posts and my own perspective? The issue isn't the opinion itself; it's how it's being delivered. It's being handled with such intolerance and personal attacks that there have been countless times where I felt like just walking away from writing altogether. It’s exhausting—being a lone voice against a massive majority.

But look, I can't stop being myself. I’m going to write about what I see, what I feel, what I experience, and how I live my life... even if that means looking at things through a different lens. I tend to focus on characters who made mistakes and try to find the human side of them, because let's face it, everyone needs a little grace. Nobody is perfect... not on this forum, not the people behind the screen names, and not even the mods. But trying to find flaws in everyone else instead of looking in the mirror? That’s just awful, and frankly, pretty sad.

Every single time I post about Levi—who is my main inspiration for writing about this—people mock him. Fine, he’s just a character, but their mockery says way more about the people writing those posts than it does about the show. I feel like I’m standing in a windstorm of a loud majority that keeps shouting, but they won't silence me. My stance is mine alone, and I stand behind every word I write with my character, my education, and my years of life experience.

I’m not here to win a popularity contest or to have people insist that my posts are the only "truth." My truth is mine. There are plenty of perfectly lovely people in the other section of the forum whom I get along with beautifully—conversations that actually suit our age and maturity levels.

I totally get that people don't agree with me. Whether it's my style (apparently my use of punctuation bothers some people!) or my actual views, that's fine. But coming into this thread just to preach your own version of reality, quoting U.S. laws while the story is set somewhere else entirely... that’s just too much. Accusing others of being biased without actually reading what they wrote, or constantly seeing the speck in someone else's eye while ignoring the log in your own... it's exhausting.

I try my best to follow all the characters objectively, but yes, Levi’s character annoys me. I haven't seen so much whining and weakness in a long time, and apparently, that’s why I’m constantly being reported for my posts. Well, if that’s how you want to play it, go ahead.

What’s happening here is pure intolerance toward certain people—specifically toward me, because I’m not exactly a huge fan of Feriha. But I don't hate her; I don't hate anyone in this world. It’s heartbreaking that I’m being judged for that.

Is it really possible that writing, which should be a fun way to express ourselves, has turned into a situation where people are insulted just for having different views, and where you aren't even allowed to criticize a fictional character?

So many people have left this thread because they didn't write like the majority, and now people want to claim it’s because of me. If that’s how you feel, I can easily walk away. You won't have me hovering over your shoulders, watching your every move, or breathing down your necks. Once I'm gone, the thread will remain, with everyone bowing down to those who think exactly alike. And there you have it—the perfect echo chamber.

But I won't be gone without my quiet, small presence, because no one can take who I am away from me.

Anyway, kudos to the mods for wading through all our nonsense. After dealing with this, I don't think anyone's ever going to be the same again.

I want to address this specific part.

We weren't calling you out—it was actually the exact opposite.

The rest of us on the forum actually pointed you out as a perfect example of someone we disagree with, yet still value because you actually contribute to the discussion and are always welcome here.

If you actually take a second to read our posts properly, you'll see we're mentioning you in a positive light.

Don't let certain people talk you into believing we have anything against you.

Look, I'm right there with you regarding Levent Vegetić—I love him, others don't, and yeah, I get heat for it, but it's all within the bounds of a normal conversation. 😂

Just don't go comparing yourself to people who aren't even in the same league as you.

Sending you big hugs, dear. 🙂

Let’s not pretend this is just about people being unable to handle different opinions.

Both Jerry Campbell7 and Dana Booth26 are in the minority here on the forum—I don't see anyone complaining about them, even if hardly anyone actually agrees with what they say.

River can share whatever opinion she wants, but the moderators need to let others respond to her, rather than just nuking posts simply because River doesn't like them.

Now, Adam M. just went off claiming my bio was reported, but nobody else could have possibly flagged it—it had to be River acting on her own personal vendetta, especially since there were at least seven posts supporting mine.

And you actually deleted that exact post—the one that another moderator had already publicly cleared.

Bottom line? You aren't moderating this thread objectively.

Raymond Gray2 said:I don't want to get dragged into this debate (though I totally get why people are complaining)
It's just a fact that everyone's being kicked off the thread. Normally, we'd have pages and pages of posts after a single episode, but yesterday? Total ghost town. Nobody’s posting anything—or if they do, it just gets deleted
so much

To avoid getting bogged down in individual cases or twisting facts and sentences into knots, the gist of the whole issue is exactly what Raymond Gray2 pointed out—so thanks to him for that.

Originally, the whole point of this thread was to talk about the show's plot and maybe swoon over the hot lead actor among us ladies—and frankly, having three guys join in was a nice bonus. 😂 It was supposed to be a fun little chat to have over coffee or during a quick break.

Now, the thread has mutated into some sort of moralistic sermon about a terrible woman—Cruella de Vil—who apparently only provides entertainment for one specific person and one moderator.

I thought the whole goal of online communication was to draw people in and encourage interaction, not to drive them away by aggressively moderating the pages.

Or am I fundamentally misunderstanding why we're all here? 🤷

We already know how things usually end up with Michael Ramos, but please—can we just get some relief from the moderator who, without any explanation whatsoever, devoured at least five pages of posts yesterday that were perfectly within the forum rules?

Larry Lee97 says:
Please, just start by reading the forum rules here and the guidelines for the soap operas. I’ve gone ahead and deleted a few of your posts because they went against the rules. There is plenty of room for decent communicationwithout getting into fights</>>with people who have different opinions. On every single thread, regardless of the subject, there are going to be people who disagree—you should just put them on ignore and avoid the drama . The same goes for those "low effort" posts like "exactly" plus an emoji, or "I agree"+emoji.

So, thanks again for quoting yourself this time, because it really highlights how you’re reprimanding me for the exact same post, claiming I'm clashing with someone, while at the same time, most of the time, you're lecturing me because I actually AGREE with someone.

In my line of work, we call that a *contradictio in adiecto*—basically, a self-contradiction.

After that, I just gave up on commenting on that topic altogether.

Honestly, when moderation gets this confusing, the best thing to do is just let it drive everyone away from the thread, leaving a handful of users and certain moderators to just sit there and talk to themselves.

Look, regarding my previous rule-breaking—specifically the spoilers—I’ve been penalized, and I’m not even going to deny that I spoiled anything. I was new to the forum and didn't really grasp the rules yet.

This is the second time you've wiped out my on-topic posts, and honestly, your moderation style is the only thing I've actually complained about here—and that's saying something, since I've been in touch with other moderators like Jay and Bea, whose handling of things I have zero issues with.

So, on this thread, I only quoted your own message, which clearly shows you're just making up excuses for why you deleted my posts. You claimed I was arguing with people on the forum, then turned around and gave me a warning saying I wasn't allowed to disagree with people on the forum.

Actually, I'm kind of glad you quoted one of the posts you deleted tonight—you know, the second one you quoted.

It's because you've basically shown that as a moderator, you're completely contradicting yourself.

Let's take a look at that second post of mine that you quoted.

Is it on-topic? Yes.

Is the post related to the show's plot? Yes.

Does the post discuss specific scenes and events from the series? Yes.

Is the post about the specific behavior of the characters? Yes.

Is it rude, like those posts your friend makes? No.

Also, I'd love for you to quote my last post from the thread you deleted—the one where I comment on the characters' reactions to tonight's episode—so we can see exactly what else you've scrubbed and how much your moderation of this thread has absolutely nothing to do with the actual forum rules.

My first post, the one you quoted, was written because nobody could stand the mockery of physical violence against a woman on that thread started by Riva anymore. After I posted, there was just a wave of positive reactions from other members, which is living proof that people in that thread don't approve of your moderation and that you, as a moderator, are allowing the level of communication to drop below rock bottom.

Furthermore, now you're bringing up some supposed "subsequent agreements" with other moderators regarding the deletion of that first post you quoted, but that very post was publicly approved by one of the moderators on the thread.

Also, I'm just thrilled that as a moderator, you'd bring up my late grandmother in such a sarcastic and rude way—even if you think it's hilarious 😁—because doing that completely strips you of any valid argument and any right to accuse someone of flame war tactics.

Hey, thanks for getting back to me first of all.

I think the objection is fair—this user writes posts based on the logic of "I UNDERSTAND AND JUSTIFY," but just to be safe so a moderator doesn't call me out for saying "I DON'T JUSTIFY," let's be clear: this woman thinks she deserves a slap because she's essentially looking for trouble and found it. That's her take.

It’s similar to how Warren Buffett claimed he has plenty of Mexican friends, yet there's a specific minister who is a Mexican he can't stand—now he's retreating through the courts, claiming the court doesn't see his comments as hate speech, but rather as cleverly disguised hate speech.

This isn't an isolated incident; the trolling here is constant. I can't single out every single one because there are just too many—the whole thread is flooded with these types of posts filled with insults, swearing, arguing with other users, and making up fake interactions between characters that never actually happened.

I actually sent in a report for trolling, but nobody seems to be responding to it.

On top of that, perfectly normal posts from women talking about the show, the characters, or specific episodes just vanish overnight. I personally had three posts disappear out of nowhere—posts that followed every single rule—and I haven't received a single notification in my inbox explaining which ones they were or why they were deleted.

Could you please take a look at this thread and my last post regarding the trolling warning?

Also, if you check the related threads for this series, you'll see we don't have these issues elsewhere; the girls are just hanging out and having fun, but for some reason, the problem is localized right here.

It shouldn't be okay to let someone who ignores the rules harass everyone else who just wants to have a normal conversation and joke around like human beings.

I'm asking once more for you to check our threads—I'm not just complaining for the sake of it.

Thanks a million!

Dear rustydrifter10,

We have a massive problem on the girl named Feriha thread.

Moderator Adam is out here deleting perfectly normal discussions about the show and its plot—while simultaneously letting Michael Ramos4 run wild on the forum, trolling everyone and making up her own fan fiction scenarios for the series.

I’ve already reported her for trolling—honestly, I couldn't help myself—and now I'm hearing from other women on the forum that, even though I'm still pretty new here, she's been flagged by plenty of others too.

There are several AFK threads floating around here—one of which features a pretty controversial female user who seems to turn that specific thread into an endless battlefield. She’s even dropping profanity in her posts. And honestly? Aside from Jay, the moderators are just letting it slide.

We don't run into these issues on the other AFK threads where that one controversial female user stays away. Honestly, you could have 100 women all holding completely different opinions—it wouldn't matter—because the vibe is just pure banter and total harmony.

Plus, this forum user is openly supporting violence against women.

I just reported her post where she says all that—but honestly, since moderator Adam is letting it slide, I’m not buying her plea for sympathy for a second.

Please read my application to the moderators.

I'm reporting this post for hate speech.

This forum user is openly advocating for physical violence against women. That’s a straight-up criminal offense under Article 325, Paragraph 1 of the Penal Code—inciting public violence and hatred.

I don't need to remind anyone that Warren Buffett ended up behind bars and is currently facing trial because of this mess. Honestly, if someone like him can be taken down, I feel like I should actually put in some effort to figure out who Riva really is.

Please, stop allowing this—just ban her from participating in any discussions regarding women or any other female-centric topics where she clearly has nothing of value to contribute.

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If you ask me, that slap was exactly what Emir was going to do—just a predictable reaction to Roman’s provocation, which, as Roman already pointed out, was totally over the line and completely out of pocket. Honestly, now is really not the time for that kind of pushing and playing games. It’s just interrogating something that makes absolutely zero sense at that moment—honestly, what's the point?
Look, just to be crystal clear—I’m not trying to justify a slap in the face here, so let’s not get ahead of ourselves. But honestly? You reap what you sow. If you go looking for the devil, don't act surprised when he actually shows up. In this specific case, that slap is the devil coming to collect.
Shoving things in someone's face without thinking—and testing Emir's patience like that—is just plain rude and arrogant. Emir tries to shut it down, telling her, "Let's not go there, Feriha; we’re going to end up regretting this." He’s angry, understandably so, given everything he's dealing with—Riva, his father, the Yilmaz family, having his funding pulled—it’s a mess. It’s not like he has all the answers figured out yet, but instead of helping, Feriha keeps pushing Levent on him. I mean, if she had mentioned some random guy, fine, but it's *Levent*. Doesn't Feriha realize how much just the mention of Levent sets Emir off? Has she learned nothing from their history? It's like she doesn't know him at all. She promised she'd stand by him through everything, then went back on her word. She isn't offering any actual help or support during this shared crisis; honestly, she's just draining the life out of him, which is pretty much her specialty. To me, that isn't love. Feriha isn't showing any real affection here—when she needs to be his rock, she fails the test time and time again.

Aysun gave her a serious lecture—I'm honestly not even sure if Fer caught the drift of it. For the most part, she just kept staring at the floor or looking off to the side. And honestly, what I found most irritating was how Aysun tried to throw her off balance; it was such a cheap shot, totally in Fer's own style. Aysun actually handed her a perfect opening to prove her wrong, but Fer just doesn't know how to read between the lines. She can't prove anything because, well, the slap was followed immediately by her running away—who knows how many times now? You can't just run away from everything. You can't run away from a marriage or the hard stuff. You have to carry that weight and stand by the person you love.
@Akif, I’m with you on this one—your post hits the nail on the head. A marriage built on zero foundation, made without any real thought and for all the wrong reasons, is exactly why we’re seeing this mess unfold. Honestly, it’ll probably stay this way too, as long as Feriha refuses to trust Emir. She spends all her time running away from everything, and frankly, her behavior toward people—especially how she treats Emir—means she isn't going to achieve a single thing. The way she communicates is just... grating. It’s irrational, totally lacks tact, and shows zero consideration for anyone else. She’s so hyper-focused on her own interests and avoiding any kind of hardship that it always ends up blowing up right in her face. And let's talk about Emir—he definitely can't carry the weight of the world alone. In my opinion, he’s basically fighting these life battles and marriage struggles entirely by himself. He's lonely in that relationship. As for Feriha, it’s like she never developed a moral compass to begin with. She just wanders aimlessly through life, refusing to learn from her mistakes, somehow convinced that everything will just magically work itself out. She’s constantly at odds with everyone she meets. Where is she supposed to go? She feels suffocated by those massive buildings, cramped in her apartment—everywhere feels too small for her. But if you ask me, she’s most uncomfortable in her own skin, trapped by that cluttered, chaotic mess inside her own head.
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