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rustydrifter10I just noticed the warning about stopping posts here, but the moderator asked me for a link, so I’m just replying to her. 🙂

Larry Lee97 said:Please send me a link to what you're claiming 🙂

darktinker12 said:I was wondering... 🤔 do regular forum members not see deleted posts?

Yeah, I’m not really following this either. I don't have the links to the deleted posts, but I already mentioned some of them at the very beginning of this thread.Lenka's I still feel some regret, though honestly, I can't quite wrap my head around why. If it were just about the deletion itself, I could live with it. But then I see what else was left standing on this thread, and I just don't get it. It makes zero sense to me how those posts—which look like straight-up trolling to me—are considered less harmful to the discussion than the ones that got wiped. If you were actually asking me for links to prove what I mean by those kinds of posts, well, here they are. I think there have been plenty of good examples shared on this forum already, but here’s one from my side.

Michael Ramos4 said:Seher loves money... and she’ll sell out information just to get it.She didn't make anything up, and she certainly didn't lie. She wasn't planting seeds or setting anyone up. She’s just spreading the truth. ...some people have a price for their soul... but then again, those are the ones who actually pay their bills on time. coffee:
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Even a girl like Feriha would have jumped right in her face.Whenever Seher starts lying or making things up....
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It’s not exactly beautiful... how things lead to love like that. But hey, it’s not the worst thing ever. I've seen much worse out there. Still... He doesn't steal. He doesn't cheat. He doesn't lie. He just tells the truth....and the truth is, we see it hurts, and it's expensive too.

People are talking about Seher. In this show, she’s portrayed as this cunning, pretty morally flexible type who cares about nothing but money. She’ll use any scheme or lie necessary to get what she wants or just to wiggle out of a tight spot. Honestly, Seher starts lying the second she opens her mouth—she only tells the truth when it actually suits her. Regarding that whole "I don't steal" thing, I can't help but think about that time with Feriha's ring, where she tried to sell the real one on the black market and ended up getting stuck with a fake returned to her instead.

Michael Ramos4 said:Yeah... she was lying. I can see that too. And I know that... but who exactly did she hurt with all those lies? Who was actually damaged by her actions? Two lies.😁...maybe an uncle. 🤣
But what if she lied about not knowing where Handi got that information?
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What kind of headaches could there be working with Cansa? Isn't Feriha the one who just absolutely wrecked that poor, mentally unstable Cansa... when she practically... She took over her identity.She just completely took over her parents and their entire life... and on top of that... Oh, wow. She sounded so arrogant and sneaky when she said that... But honestly, I was never really on Cansa's side. To me, Feriha was always the better, more deserving person. She deserved everything Cansa had, too.It’s just plain dishonest and malicious on Feriha's part. At the end of the day, she’s only paying the price because of her own lies. Nobody forced her hand; the truth is out there, and now she has to live with the consequences.
Why is everyone suddenly acting like they need to protect and shield Feriha? Like, if someone accidentally offends her or hurts her feelings, we all have to jump in? For what, exactly?Who was Feriha ever actually thinking about... besides herself?.

So, it's finally being admitted that Seher actually lied, but then they go and misquote it, claiming she only lied twice during the series.
Feriha told Cans that she never actually stole her identity, but she didn't say it in a way that was condescending or passive-aggressive either. She never once hinted that she thinks she’s a better or more worthy person than Cans, or that she somehow deserves everything Cans has.

Michael Ramos4 said:And what exactly did Feriha do for someone else... who is she actually thinking about?She just used them all to fuel her own lies... everyone from Emir to Sanem, Cansa... honestly, she played them all. Even Levent and Halil. She manipulated every single one of them just to serve herself.

People are trying to insinuate that Feriha never actually did anything for anyone, but that’s just not true. The show showed so many instances where she stepped up for others—I'm thinking specifically about that time she snuck out of the house just to be there for her friend who had an abortion. Throughout the entire series, Feriha was always portrayed as someone who truly cares about people, weighing who deserves her support and who doesn't, but above all, she's incredibly devoted to her family and her friends.

Michael Ramos4 said:Te Seher's two lies didn't actually hurt anyone directly...
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Seher... watch out, there are two lies in there. She only ended up hurting herself, landing her right in that basement you all hate so much... she walked straight into that hole all on her own... totally unintentional.

Aside from the fact that people are miscounting and saying Seher only lied twice during the series, they’re also totally wrong when they claim her lies didn't actually hurt anyone. There were definitely victims here. You have Mehmet, whom she lied to about being pregnant just to marry him, and then later lied about sabotaging the pregnancy. Then there's Feriha, who was falsely accused by her of pushing her down the stairs and causing a miscarriage.

Michael Ramos4 said:We could probably spend all day until tomorrow just listing everything other people have done... and honestly, I don't think anyone has gone even remotely as far as Seher. 😍Seher loves the hunt... you're right about that... but then again... She isn't stealing and she isn't lying just to find love.She actually had a job too... and she still wants to work so she can earn her own money... but Meho won't let his wife work. ☕"He's the man of the house, so he's the one who's going to provide for the family..." Meho... Meho 🤣

I can't stop thinking about that time Seher tried to sell Feriha's ring on the black market and ended up getting swindled with a cheap knockoff.

Michael Ramos4 said:I mean, who's actually hurt by someone not having a kid?I didn't notice Yilmaz feeling any consolation over that.😂 Not even if they were in court... most of them probably slipped through the cracks without being charged.Sehi could have easily tumbled down those stairs... especially with the way Fer was snapping at her.Maybe Sehi just got spooked by Feriha and lost her footing.😁
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So, I guess I’ll just start making comparisons. two three Lies and nonsense with Feriha's... just total nonsense.

In the show, they made it clear that the whole family was devastated by the loss of the child, especially Mehmet (the father). He drank so much he couldn't even stand up straight—he actually tripped on a broken bottle and ended up in the hospital, so clearly, everyone was physically affected by this. It’s also very obvious how Seher smiles right before she throws herself down the stairs and tries to pin it on Feriha. From what I saw, she threw herself down on purpose, so I don't see any basis for claiming she just got scared and lost her balance.
That last sentence—so we’ve actually reached the point where the number of Seher's lies might actually climb higher than two.

Michael Ramos4 said:Just rewatched the episode... man, how much Feriha pushed everything.. without any fear or shame regarding what people thought.. honestly.. she's someone you have to respect.. Sehi is just an innocent little kid compared to what Fer was doing☕ Talk about consequences.. that jealous uncle really stoked the fire.
So they didn't have fireworks at the wedding, so the uncle decided to give them a memory to hold onto for that day.. to make sure they remember it: lol: : lol:

1. It shows that Feriha lied specifically because she was terrified and deeply ashamed in front of everyone.
2. This bit about "that jealous uncle really stoked the fire" actually happened in the series, but that's a description of the moment when Sehi's ex-boyfriend set her house on fire knowing she and Mehmet were inside—basically trying to burn them alive. So, I just wanted to ask: isn't trivializing felonies against the rules of this forum? That last sentence about the fireworks refers to the exact same incident.

Basically, Feriha is being described as a character who is the complete opposite of how she’s portrayed in the show. The same goes for Seher, except we went from "Seher, who never lies" to "Seher, who told 2-3 lies that didn't hurt anyone." For those of you who actually clicked the links, notice that all the posts are from the same date. You can't really conclude that the descriptions of Seher are contradictory just because opinions shifted as the show progressed. And again, I'll say it: it doesn't bother me that these types of posts stayed up, but I just don't get why they were judged as better or more relevant to the series than the ones that got deleted.

Nicole Palmer4 said:Dana Nelson is quite the cast. And this is what we've been dissecting all day and for several days prior.
Let’s be clear: this isn't actually about River. This is about a moderator failing to perform their duties properly; River is merely the evidence of that failure.
Today, Larry Lee97 is fixating on a single sentence—whether the main male lead said it or not. That isn't even the issue, and nobody would complain about it regardless.
We see posts like these every single day in the "girl named Feriha" thread.
It has been stated a million times how Feriha doesn't feel regret, yet she hasn't been able to forgive herself for 54 episodes already. People write about her being opportunistic—which was never actually shown—and then claim she doesn't love Emir, despite the show portraying the exact opposite.
Then we reach the conclusion that Halil isn't to blame for shooting at Zehra 😲. No, it's Zehra and Feriha's fault because they wounded his pride from the old country. The man isn't even from Mardin, he's from Antakya and he's insane, currently sitting in an asylum. So, the woman who left a ten-year-old child with an irresponsible father because of another husband—and who still doesn't even ask her son how he is, caring only about his love life with a wife she dislikes, all while failing to notice her son was kidnapped for days—is considered a good mother. Even though she is portrayed as the literal definition of a bad mother.

Yes, all of that is perfectly logical, perhaps. But not in this series that most of us are watching. ☕

Honestly, I wouldn't even have an issue with people making things up if they weren't deleting the posts from those who (with actual arguments) respond to the fake plot points and vague insinuations. It makes it look like they are flaming or off-topic, while the (troll) posts they responded to stay 🤷

Dana Nelson said:Dear rustydrifter10,

We have a massive problem on the girl named Feriha thread.

Moderator Adam is out here deleting perfectly normal discussions about the show and its plot—while simultaneously letting Michael Ramos4 run wild on the forum, trolling everyone and making up her own fan fiction scenarios for the series.

I’ve already reported her for trolling—honestly, I couldn't help myself—and now I'm hearing from other women on the forum that, even though I'm still pretty new here, she's been flagged by plenty of others too.

There are several AFK threads floating around here—one of which features a pretty controversial female user who seems to turn that specific thread into an endless battlefield. She’s even dropping profanity in her posts. And honestly? Aside from Jay, the moderators are just letting it slide.

We don't run into these issues on the other AFK threads where that one controversial female user stays away. Honestly, you could have 100 women all holding completely different opinions—it wouldn't matter—because the vibe is just pure banter and total harmony.

Plus, this forum user is openly supporting violence against women.

I just reported her post where she says all that—but honestly, since moderator Adam is letting it slide, I’m not buying her plea for sympathy for a second.

Please read my application to the moderators.

I'm reporting this post for hate speech.

This forum user is openly advocating for physical violence against women. That’s a straight-up criminal offense under Article 325, Paragraph 1 of the Penal Code—inciting public violence and hatred.

I don't need to remind anyone that Warren Buffett ended up behind bars and is currently facing trial because of this mess. Honestly, if someone like him can be taken down, I feel like I should actually put in some effort to figure out who Riva really is.

Please, stop allowing this—just ban her from participating in any discussions regarding women or any other female-centric topics where she clearly has nothing of value to contribute.

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If you ask me, that slap was exactly what Emir was going to do—just a predictable reaction to Roman’s provocation, which, as Roman already pointed out, was totally over the line and completely out of pocket. Honestly, now is really not the time for that kind of pushing and playing games. It’s just interrogating something that makes absolutely zero sense at that moment—honestly, what's the point?
Look, just to be crystal clear—I’m not trying to justify a slap in the face here, so let’s not get ahead of ourselves. But honestly? You reap what you sow. If you go looking for the devil, don't act surprised when he actually shows up. In this specific case, that slap is the devil coming to collect.
Shoving things in someone's face without thinking—and testing Emir's patience like that—is just plain rude and arrogant. Emir tries to shut it down, telling her, "Let's not go there, Feriha; we’re going to end up regretting this." He’s angry, understandably so, given everything he's dealing with—Riva, his father, the Yilmaz family, having his funding pulled—it’s a mess. It’s not like he has all the answers figured out yet, but instead of helping, Feriha keeps pushing Levent on him. I mean, if she had mentioned some random guy, fine, but it's *Levent*. Doesn't Feriha realize how much just the mention of Levent sets Emir off? Has she learned nothing from their history? It's like she doesn't know him at all. She promised she'd stand by him through everything, then went back on her word. She isn't offering any actual help or support during this shared crisis; honestly, she's just draining the life out of him, which is pretty much her specialty. To me, that isn't love. Feriha isn't showing any real affection here—when she needs to be his rock, she fails the test time and time again.

Aysun gave her a serious lecture—I'm honestly not even sure if Fer caught the drift of it. For the most part, she just kept staring at the floor or looking off to the side. And honestly, what I found most irritating was how Aysun tried to throw her off balance; it was such a cheap shot, totally in Fer's own style. Aysun actually handed her a perfect opening to prove her wrong, but Fer just doesn't know how to read between the lines. She can't prove anything because, well, the slap was followed immediately by her running away—who knows how many times now? You can't just run away from everything. You can't run away from a marriage or the hard stuff. You have to carry that weight and stand by the person you love.
@Akif, I’m with you on this one—your post hits the nail on the head. A marriage built on zero foundation, made without any real thought and for all the wrong reasons, is exactly why we’re seeing this mess unfold. Honestly, it’ll probably stay this way too, as long as Feriha refuses to trust Emir. She spends all her time running away from everything, and frankly, her behavior toward people—especially how she treats Emir—means she isn't going to achieve a single thing. The way she communicates is just... grating. It’s irrational, totally lacks tact, and shows zero consideration for anyone else. She’s so hyper-focused on her own interests and avoiding any kind of hardship that it always ends up blowing up right in her face. And let's talk about Emir—he definitely can't carry the weight of the world alone. In my opinion, he’s basically fighting these life battles and marriage struggles entirely by himself. He's lonely in that relationship. As for Feriha, it’s like she never developed a moral compass to begin with. She just wanders aimlessly through life, refusing to learn from her mistakes, somehow convinced that everything will just magically work itself out. She’s constantly at odds with everyone she meets. Where is she supposed to go? She feels suffocated by those massive buildings, cramped in her apartment—everywhere feels too small for her. But if you ask me, she’s most uncomfortable in her own skin, trapped by that cluttered, chaotic mess inside her own head.
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Dana Nelson said:Hey, thanks for getting back to me first of all.

I think the objection is fair—this user writes posts based on the logic of "I UNDERSTAND AND JUSTIFY," but just to be safe so a moderator doesn't call me out for saying "I DON'T JUSTIFY," let's be clear: this woman thinks she deserves a slap because she's essentially looking for trouble and found it. That's her take.

It’s similar to how Warren Buffett claimed he has plenty of Mexican friends, yet there's a specific minister who is a Mexican he can't stand—now he's retreating through the courts, claiming the court doesn't see his comments as hate speech, but rather as cleverly disguised hate speech.

This isn't an isolated incident; the trolling here is constant. I can't single out every single one because there are just too many—the whole thread is flooded with these types of posts filled with insults, swearing, arguing with other users, and making up fake interactions between characters that never actually happened.

I actually sent in a report for trolling, but nobody seems to be responding to it.

On top of that, perfectly normal posts from women talking about the show, the characters, or specific episodes just vanish overnight. I personally had three posts disappear out of nowhere—posts that followed every single rule—and I haven't received a single notification in my inbox explaining which ones they were or why they were deleted.

Could you please take a look at this thread and my last post regarding the trolling warning?

Also, if you check the related threads for this series, you'll see we don't have these issues elsewhere; the girls are just hanging out and having fun, but for some reason, the problem is localized right here.

It shouldn't be okay to let someone who ignores the rules harass everyone else who just wants to have a normal conversation and joke around like human beings.

I'm asking once more for you to check our threads—I'm not just complaining for the sake of it.

Thanks a million!

Yeah, she starts by saying she isn't justifying the slap, then immediately follows up in the same sentence explaining why it was deserved (basically saying the girl got exactly what she asked for). It leaves you feeling like she actually is justifying it.

Dana Nelson said:Dear rustydrifter10,

We have a massive problem on the girl named Feriha thread.

Moderator Adam is out here deleting perfectly normal discussions about the show and its plot—while simultaneously letting Michael Ramos4 run wild on the forum, trolling everyone and making up her own fan fiction scenarios for the series.

I’ve already reported her for trolling—honestly, I couldn't help myself—and now I'm hearing from other women on the forum that, even though I'm still pretty new here, she's been flagged by plenty of others too.

There are several AFK threads floating around here—one of which features a pretty controversial female user who seems to turn that specific thread into an endless battlefield. She’s even dropping profanity in her posts. And honestly? Aside from Jay, the moderators are just letting it slide.

We don't run into these issues on the other AFK threads where that one controversial female user stays away. Honestly, you could have 100 women all holding completely different opinions—it wouldn't matter—because the vibe is just pure banter and total harmony.

Plus, this forum user is openly supporting violence against women.

I just reported her post where she says all that—but honestly, since moderator Adam is letting it slide, I’m not buying her plea for sympathy for a second.

Please read my application to the moderators.

I'm reporting this post for hate speech.

This forum user is openly advocating for physical violence against women. That’s a straight-up criminal offense under Article 325, Paragraph 1 of the Penal Code—inciting public violence and hatred.

I don't need to remind anyone that Warren Buffett ended up behind bars and is currently facing trial because of this mess. Honestly, if someone like him can be taken down, I feel like I should actually put in some effort to figure out who Riva really is.

Please, stop allowing this—just ban her from participating in any discussions regarding women or any other female-centric topics where she clearly has nothing of value to contribute.

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If you ask me, that slap was exactly what Emir was going to do—just a predictable reaction to Roman’s provocation, which, as Roman already pointed out, was totally over the line and completely out of pocket. Honestly, now is really not the time for that kind of pushing and playing games. It’s just interrogating something that makes absolutely zero sense at that moment—honestly, what's the point?
Look, just to be crystal clear—I’m not trying to justify a slap in the face here, so let’s not get ahead of ourselves. But honestly? You reap what you sow. If you go looking for the devil, don't act surprised when he actually shows up. In this specific case, that slap is the devil coming to collect.
Shoving things in someone's face without thinking—and testing Emir's patience like that—is just plain rude and arrogant. Emir tries to shut it down, telling her, "Let's not go there, Feriha; we’re going to end up regretting this." He’s angry, understandably so, given everything he's dealing with—Riva, his father, the Yilmaz family, having his funding pulled—it’s a mess. It’s not like he has all the answers figured out yet, but instead of helping, Feriha keeps pushing Levent on him. I mean, if she had mentioned some random guy, fine, but it's *Levent*. Doesn't Feriha realize how much just the mention of Levent sets Emir off? Has she learned nothing from their history? It's like she doesn't know him at all. She promised she'd stand by him through everything, then went back on her word. She isn't offering any actual help or support during this shared crisis; honestly, she's just draining the life out of him, which is pretty much her specialty. To me, that isn't love. Feriha isn't showing any real affection here—when she needs to be his rock, she fails the test time and time again.

Aysun gave her a serious lecture—I'm honestly not even sure if Fer caught the drift of it. For the most part, she just kept staring at the floor or looking off to the side. And honestly, what I found most irritating was how Aysun tried to throw her off balance; it was such a cheap shot, totally in Fer's own style. Aysun actually handed her a perfect opening to prove her wrong, but Fer just doesn't know how to read between the lines. She can't prove anything because, well, the slap was followed immediately by her running away—who knows how many times now? You can't just run away from everything. You can't run away from a marriage or the hard stuff. You have to carry that weight and stand by the person you love.
@Akif, I’m with you on this one—your post hits the nail on the head. A marriage built on zero foundation, made without any real thought and for all the wrong reasons, is exactly why we’re seeing this mess unfold. Honestly, it’ll probably stay this way too, as long as Feriha refuses to trust Emir. She spends all her time running away from everything, and frankly, her behavior toward people—especially how she treats Emir—means she isn't going to achieve a single thing. The way she communicates is just... grating. It’s irrational, totally lacks tact, and shows zero consideration for anyone else. She’s so hyper-focused on her own interests and avoiding any kind of hardship that it always ends up blowing up right in her face. And let's talk about Emir—he definitely can't carry the weight of the world alone. In my opinion, he’s basically fighting these life battles and marriage struggles entirely by himself. He's lonely in that relationship. As for Feriha, it’s like she never developed a moral compass to begin with. She just wanders aimlessly through life, refusing to learn from her mistakes, somehow convinced that everything will just magically work itself out. She’s constantly at odds with everyone she meets. Where is she supposed to go? She feels suffocated by those massive buildings, cramped in her apartment—everywhere feels too small for her. But if you ask me, she’s most uncomfortable in her own skin, trapped by that cluttered, chaotic mess inside her own head.
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That’s actually what I wanted to comment on. I’ve noticed the same thing—so many posts (whether intentionally or not, contradicting what Michael Ramos4 wrote) that I personally see nothing wrong with are disappearing incredibly fast. My last post left on that thread was from September, and honestly, I have no idea what I could have possibly done wrong in the ones that were wiped. Just yesterday and the day before, Dana Nelson wrote several really great posts that plenty of people praised and replied to, but now both her posts and all those replies are gone. Also, cosmicorca5 has put a lot of effort into some long posts over the last few days regarding the show's plot direction, and now I can't see them either, nor the responses. I can't remember everyone whose posts were deleted and I'm not sure which moderator is doing it, but the truth is, posts discussing the plot and characters—even when they aren't directly replying to anyone else—are vanishing at record speed. I've been noticing this for a while now.

EDIT: yeah, now that goldenfalcon7 mentioned it, I also remember there were a few posts tonight about the main character's wardrobe (all positive) where someone promised to share photos, but I haven't noticed those being missing yet.