Posts by Carol Harris6

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Bad Boys in Fans · Dec 4, 2016

Jerry Morris2 said:I show up to a game with five thousand people in attendance and I'm stuck waiting in line just to grab a ticket. Honestly, I couldn't care less about that when I could have just bought it beforehand. It feels like we're all forced to jump through hoops, dealing with endless security checks and cordons at a stadium full of five thousand fans, all because of the ridiculous mandates coming from some incompetent suits in management. They can take their policies and shove them. Nothing is settled yet!

There's no point in even stressing over this anymore; why bother breaking your head over it if you're just getting nowhere?

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Bad Boys in Fans · Sep 8, 2016

The real issue here is that while this might seem impossible, there’s absolutely no shame in it. This isn't like being in Italy where if one Fossa shows up and says it's over, everyone just accepts it because they know exactly who holds the power and who doesn't.
What's actually happening is that certain "legends" from Chicago and Los Angeles are busy building their own little groups out of various nobodies, filling that void in the stands. They aren't bothering anyone because they don't want to disrupt the status quo. But in doing so, they've taken what should have been a perfectly logical, 100% pure supporter decision and turned it into a cheap imitation—a total sham that clings to the same old names and symbols.

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Bad Boys in Fans · Sep 8, 2016

I’ve been thinking quite a bit about our recent discussions regarding the team's performance, and I find myself reflecting on how much can change in just a single season. It feels like only yesterday we were all celebrating that massive victory at the Rose Bowl, feeling absolutely invincible, yet here we are facing a completely different set of challenges. I remember sitting in my living room back in Chicago during that championship run, watching the clock tick down and feeling this overwhelming sense of certainty that everything was falling into place perfectly. Now, looking at the current standings, there's a certain heaviness in the air, though I try to remain optimistic. I truly believe that if we can just tighten up our defensive transitions and show a bit more grit in the midfield, things will start to turn around. It isn't just about the wins and losses for me; it's about the resilience of the players and whether they can maintain their composure when the pressure starts mounting. I'm staying hopeful, and I think we should all take a breath and remember why we fell in love with this game in the first place. kaže:
If I type out seven lines of reasoning only for someone to jump to the conclusion that I’m actually inciting people to throw flares at Juventus, then we honestly don't have anything left to discuss. ☕

What’s the deal here? Are we actually going to celebrate our goals this time? It feels like we'll just have some guy standing on the fence telling us exactly when to cheer and when to keep our heads down, just like how it's been working for us up until now. 🙄

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Bad Boys in Fans · Sep 8, 2016

Robert Cooper60 said:In recent years, people haven't been showing up for the club, but rather against it—which is actually why the group got kicked out of the stadium in the first place. That seems to be the core difference here. I mean, look at this whole comeback and everyone showing up to matches again, unless I'm mistaken and flares end up being thrown onto the pitch during a game against Juventus.
I honestly don't hold it against anyone; if you love the team, go support them. But personally, I don't see myself back there as long as the advisor is busy celebrating alongside the players, or while the club's priority remains selling off a key player five minutes before stepping into the Champions League, only to turn around and act all dramatic about how we almost had a miracle season and other nonsense like that.

Flares aren't going to land on the pitch during a Juventus game because they didn't used to happen then either. And when they did, it was always the "same" crowd. The reality is that someone is risking a long prison sentence or a free private lawsuit for those flares, while the rest of us are left hanging until they're released, only for the person who actually got hit by a flare to be stuck paying a massive fine the very next day. It’s just a mess. When a flare hits the field, it carries a message, and historically, the first ones have always come from OUR stands—whether it's the national team or Real Madrid. Let's not pin someone else's mistakes on us. We can blame half of this crackdown on some internet guru ranting about tear gas on the pitch. This isn't the 90s anymore.

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Bad Boys in Fans · Sep 8, 2016

analogheron19 said:Of course they're writing nonsense, especially since they botched the address.

Only two sentences were sent to your address. I really don't have the energy to get into an argument with you.

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Bad Boys in Fans · Sep 8, 2016

I’ve been thinking quite a bit lately about what it actually means to be a supporter, especially when you consider how much of our identity gets tied up in the teams we follow. It isn't just about showing up to the stadium or wearing the colors on a Tuesday afternoon; there's a deeper, more quiet commitment involved that most people don't really see from the outside. I remember sitting in my living room back in Chicago during a particularly brutal losing streak years ago, feeling this strange, heavy sense of disappointment that felt almost physical, and it made me realize that we aren't just spectators. We are stakeholders in these emotional journeys. Whether it's the highs of a championship run or the crushing lows of a rebuilding season, being a true supporter means staying in the trenches through the unglamorous stretches, not just when the lights are bright and the wins are coming easy. It’s an earnest kind of loyalty that requires a certain level of patience and a lot of heart. kaže:
It’s not really about whether we should return to how things used to be; the real issue is that anyone who isn't on board with this specific type of comeback is probably wondering how they can possibly support a club they were tearing apart just a month ago. To be honest, it feels like nothing has actually changed on the ground, because I see that same advisor showing up at every single major event around town.
And, well... maybe I just need a bit more time to wrap my head around how all of this actually works before we reconnect. Once I feel like I've got a better handle on things, I'll see you then.

Look, man, you don't have to back him up; nobody is actually asking you to. The big bosses at Chelsea FC aren't going to support him any more than they ever have in the past. Honestly, have you ever been ordered to cheer for players, chant their names, or act like a complete lunatic celebrating every single goal? We aren't kids, and nobody is blind to the reality of this situation or how much things have shifted over time. Everything is changing—from the way we organize our supporter lists to the general sense that everyone is just fed up with this lethargy, sitting around waiting for some miracle to fall from the sky. You see where we stand. This entire group wouldn't even exist if it weren't for about a dozen dedicated people constantly pushing everyone else forward. Do you really think we can keep watching this mediocre nonsense in the North Stand for another ten years while every idiot who walks into the stadium treats us like we don't matter?
Does Chelsea FC really have to completely dismantle themselves just so everyone else can finally find some peace? I mean, honestly, someone please tell them that’s the only way forward, if only so the rest of us can stop dealing with the chaos and realize there's no point in even trying to compete with them anymore.

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Bad Boys in Fans · Sep 8, 2016

You all created this massive commotion over some jerseys being tossed into the stands, yet you’ve spent years mentally breaking us down with those cold, judgmental stares. Even if we had gone after the people who grabbed those shirts, we’d just be met with the same tired lectures about what "elite fans" should look like. It feels like we’re constantly forced to justify ourselves—here and everywhere else—simply because half the supporters rushed the field during a goal. Meanwhile, we’re the ones who boycotted every single celebration, every cup run, and every league title since 2010. I can't think of anywhere else in the world where that kind of loyalty is treated this way. Honestly, don't bother showing up; you haven't been there for us in the past, so why start now? Instead of supporting these younger guys—who aren't even twenty-one or twenty-two yet and haven't truly lived the life in the stands—you just end up burying them. There’s no place here for anyone who turns a blind eye to everything we've been through or finds enjoyment in our struggles.

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Bad Boys in Fans · Sep 8, 2016

analogheron19 said:It honestly feels like you’re going to end up working with them whether you want to or not, basically joining their charity drives. I know for a fact I won't be doing that.

Honestly, man, have you no shame left? You aren't exactly a kid anymore.
Just last season during the derby back in July, you were the one sending messages telling everyone to just enjoy the goals, saying the old rivalries were dead, and pleading with people not to insult the players, yet now you're acting like some sort of radical activist.
What part of this isn't clicking? The Club scrapped the Black Lists, and the boycott was officially called off back on September 11, 2011... So what exactly is the issue here? We have been showing up to MLS matches regularly for five years now without anyone making a fuss, but the real problem is simply wanting to return to our own section in the stands. Who exactly are we hurting by doing that?
The Board of Directors doesn't want elections held, and we refuse to let things go their way; they are focused on maintaining control while we are focused on fighting for our rights... I don't see how anything in that equation has changed. We don't even have a full contingent of fans traveling for away games anymore, so stop lying to us. Some big shot rolls up with a massive fortune claiming he's always been part of this, but who do you think you're fooling?
Are we supposed to just sit around for another ten years waiting for the government or some biological inevitability to take its course? And then, once that happens, we find some other underdog with the exact same ideas, only to spend another decade struggling alongside them? Are we supposed to travel all over America or across Europe in groups of twenty because everyone else is nursing some grudge? It’s pathetic; it's like people are too emotionally overwhelmed to even make the trip to an away game. What is the alternative?
It was either this, or we shut everything down and just disperse entirely. But you didn't want that. You called it "surrender" and "cowardice." So, what is it you actually want?
A few years back, there was a proposal for all the supporter groups to boycott this entire mess of a league, but everyone made excuses about how their followers wouldn't be able to handle it, or how it would stunt their growth, or how the clubs are struggling just to stay afloat and don't have the money... They essentially suggested that the Bad Boys should just stay home and act like chimps in a cage while traveling through Europe just to prove some point about "mentality." Who is that actually helping?
Don't start poking at things unless you're ready for Pandora's box to burst open on the floor; it won't end well for anyone.

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Bad Boys in Fans · Sep 8, 2016

analogheron19 said:Are you actually going to try and bar them from coming in?

I mean, if that's what it takes, then sure.

After all, we could always just organize some food drives for them so they don't go hungry.

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Bad Boys in Fans · Sep 8, 2016

cosmicridge6 said:How can you say we don't have blacklists? They were against Miami and now they're acting up in Kansas City... what are you guys tripping on?

Well, look, those lists have been sitting right by the south entrance of the Rose Bowl, and ever since they moved there, you guys have been part of the Boycott movement.
It’s a collective thing. I'm not blind, I see what's happening.

Prika, you probably shouldn't open threads like this; it's just going to end badly.

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Bad Boys in Fans · Sep 8, 2016

Honestly, I don't think anyone actually cares where the agents end up stationed. They certainly aren't heading north.

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Bad Boys in Fans · Sep 8, 2016

dustymoose14 said:Even before last month, there were whispers all over New York about how you were looking for $550,000 just to get back into the stands....

I'm expecting you'll probably just dump a bunch of emojis on this and call me an idiot.

But honestly, regardless of what anyone claims, the truth has a way of coming out pretty quickly.

Personally speaking!

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Bad Boys in Fans · Sep 8, 2016

George Alvarez13 said:It’s simply because nobody else in the US, let alone this entire part of the country, has what we have. And honestly, you should tell us how your buddies managed to dodge all those bans without ever having to report their residency or check in during game days—maybe it's because your fathers or uncles happen to be cops or work for some local precinct.

I don't think that's fair. We need to be honest and give credit where it's due; since these blacklists for visiting fans first showed up, almost every traveling supporter group has been boycotting games at Madison Square Garden.
Our rivals from down South are especially uncompromising about this; ever since that derby was canceled because of those lists, they haven't stepped foot back in Madison Square Garden, and they've stayed true to that stance 100%. As long as those lists aren't scrapped, there isn't a chance in hell they'll set foot in that stadium again.

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Bad Boys in Fans · Sep 8, 2016

brightpilot6 said:Once the club finally manages to clean house and truly move past this era, the Dynamo fandom will look a lot like how Arabs would react if Israel were suddenly removed from the map.

You have the undeserving ultras fighting against the undeserving ones, everyone teaming up against the owner's loyalists, and then everyone ganging up on the casual fans. It’s just constant friction.

Honestly, most of this sounds like the typical rhetoric you hear from people who haven't actually earned their stripes within the community.

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Bad Boys in Fans · Sep 8, 2016

There is absolutely no reconciliation happening with the agents, nor will there ever be. It’s going to be exactly the same as before—those who have been disrespected will continue to be disrespected. The only real difference here is that a handful of people actually stepped up and took this level of responsibility and personal risk onto their own shoulders. To be honest, 99% of you wouldn't even do something like this for your own flesh and blood, let alone for a group where most decent people are just sitting around waiting to get screwed over.

You malicious, corrupt little rats should probably take a good look in the mirror before you start trashing everything and everyone. You need to ask yourselves: am I really the kind of person who has the credibility or the weight to pass judgment based on nothing but rumors?
And am I the reason this decision was made in the first place? Am I the one who left a hundred people—mostly young guys—to the mercy of those corporate machines, thugs, lowlifes, and other scavengers who can smell blood in the water? They can sense that you abandoned your brothers in the stands, leaving them to struggle through our shared mess all on their own.
So, once you've tallied everything up and subtracted the nonsense, when you've finally formed an actual opinion and feel the need to vent it somewhere—do it like a man, not like a coward.

It is shameful how few people feel they have the right to call others out based on inaccurate hearsay. You weren't part of the majority who were actually there when "your" guys were fighting through the trenches in Boise, Kansas City, Athens, Paris, or Kyiv... Because those are the places where the real battle was fought. It wasn't just fought in arenas, on social media, or in neighborhood bars. Stop being cowards.

Because when time eventually comes around again and proves that you all turned out to be spineless, and that you spent your time throwing mud at the very people who fell because of your actions, then it might finally be time for someone to throw some ashes in your faces.

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Bad Boys in Fans · Aug 11, 2016

Noah Jones92 said:Is there any way we can finally find out what actually happened during those meetings with Jerry Maguire, Svetina, or whoever else was involved? Why isn't anyone speaking up more clearly anymore? Is there really going to be some sort of unification with the Niyazov group?
I honestly feel it would be only fair if everything were laid out plainly, because you simply can't have ten different people acting on behalf of the entire group and the BBB name, doing whatever they please and talking nonsense. In my view, you need to explain things to the average fans—those who aren't caught up in all the complex politics—even to people who are completely out of the loop, because otherwise, it looks like a small handful of people are privatizing the whole group just like Jerry Maguire did with the club. Instead of shifting gears now to go against Jerry Maguire just because it's obvious the government is going to step in, you're ignoring the fact that removing him might leave the BBB fan club starving; you're essentially going behind the fans' backs. You should be ashamed.

What exactly are you bringing to the table here?
Do you really think there is anything worth saying to someone like you?

I personally believe it would be better if you stopped trying to influence things using other people's momentum. In any legitimate organization, the kind of behavior you guys tolerate would result in someone being kicked out for good, but that doesn't happen here. It seems like in this community, anyone can do whatever they want, and every self-proclaimed tough guy on this forum thinks they have the right to act superior because there are never any real consequences.

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