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Lone Wolves in Spirituality ·
Thomas Nelson25 said:Family fallout is way more complicated than regular drama—even more than losing a friend... just saying. It definitely fits that old saying about how a "prophet is never respected in his own hometown."🤔

I assume you're referring to those families who know they ought to actually love one another properly, yet somehow manage to do it half-heartedly—or just poorly, really... It seems to really bother the outsiders, too; once they look things up online, the whole family ends up with yet another headache because suddenly, nobody's listening to them, seeing them, or even acknowledging their existence anymore.
Well, what can you do? I guess everyone hits a wall eventually—hopefully, things improve.
Lone Wolves in Spirituality ·
Thomas Nelson25 said:Sadly, there are barely any sane people left out there.
If you're actually being yourself, they can't stand you. If you're a pushover, they "love" you out of pity.

What you're saying is basically wisdom delivered in the third person—kind of like a preacher or something. Let 'em think what they want. (Though some manipulators will catch on and try to claim you're just as bad as them)

Didn't you call me a drunkard because of this specific post? Well played. 😉

Anyway, people say what they want, though I doubt it matters much; my family calls me the 'grumpy prophet' because when I speak, I don't sugarcoat things—which, I guess, is a bit much for them, given how used they are to my intuition...

Even lone wolves have their moments of weakness, I suppose. Sometimes, even if nobody says anything, you can see it in their expression—you just know something is off. And then there are the cowards who lack nerve, only to eventually find a moment where they suddenly act out and leave everyone speechless—I guess that's courage for them.
So, let people believe whatever they want about one another...
Lone Wolves in Spirituality ·
Thomas Nelson25 said:Yeah, I'm with you on that—it’s not even about being under someone's thumb, it's more about being isolated. Or honestly? Just straight-up cast out. It happens way too often with people like us who have our own specific interests and ways of doing things. You could try forcing your way into the group or acting all extroverted to make it work, but honestly, that usually just backfires and makes them hate you even more.
And then you just have to "lower" yourself to their level—you know, the whole mediocrity thing. 😁 Politics, the economy, just venting about those little daily struggles—or even that whole scene where people just love hearing themselves talk, chasing clout by acting like they’re the center of attention...

You just start asking about freedom, the meaning of life, God... man, that’s already way too deep for some people.

The line between love and hate is incredibly thin—I guess you could say it’s razor-thin. People claim that's exactly where envy and jealousy take root.

Everything you tell them—it’s just fuel for their fire, I guess—because they’re perpetually hungry for it. And the stories don't even necessarily need to be about you—you're just the narrator, a mere mouthpiece, maybe.
It’s almost as if I’m not actually a lone wolf—though, I suppose, I certainly know the feeling.
Lone Wolves in Spirituality ·
And I suppose I mentioned this before—when people go on about wolves, if you actually listen to what they’re saying, you realize they’re really just talking about cats. I guess.
Lone Wolves in Spirituality ·
slycyclist26 said:..and hopefully we're on the same page 🙂

I think we might be on the same page here.

But as for everyone else—no, we aren't. People love to drone on about these "strong, wise individuals," if that's what they want to call them—and honestly, I'd love to ask them to actually prove where this supposed "wisdom" comes from.
I suspect if anyone actually sat down to audit their wisdom, it would evaporate pretty much instantly.
(I am, quite frankly, 200% certain of this based on pure intuition—regardless of whether my prediction bothers them or not)
Lone Wolves in Spirituality ·
sigh...
Lone Wolves in Spirituality ·
Dagi, I guess you didn't quite grasp what we're actually discussing here...
Lone Wolves in Spirituality ·
slycyclist26 said:It isn’t really about how much energy a crowd has... it’s more about what you actually "pick up" from the vibe there. Eventually, you reach a point where you either vibe with it or just walk away...

In other words, that is exactly what I mean by 'group energy.'
Look, you can call it whatever you want—we're talking about the same thing, I guess. You get me?
Lone Wolves in Spirituality ·
Thomas Nelson25 said:So basically, you're saying a larger group carries more energy than an individual—something you can't really control, unless you're actually managing to pull it off? 🙄

In most cases, that’s exactly how it works—the collective energy of a group is stronger, which is why an individual can be so easily swayed by the crowd.
It reminds me of... walking into a room and sensing the vibe before you even step inside. Does a single person notice that shift right at the threshold? Maybe. But if they've already crossed that line and stayed in the room, does it mean they can just back out the moment they hit the doorway?
For some people, their own energy is strong enough to hold its own against a crowd—though, honestly, those are things you just learn to handle as you get older. There aren't any universities that teach you this sort of thing. I suppose I think, know, believe so.
Lone Wolves in Spirituality ·
darkraven said:I’m just now seeing this... and honestly, I have to wonder who the hell actually finds "spirituality" in discussions like this.

That whole "lone wolf" label? It’s nothing more than another flashy little feather people use to dress up their egos. It's just another way to satisfy that desperate need to answer the question, "Who am I?"—just like our names or job titles.

If spirituality has ever actually revealed anything useful, it's that your true identity isn't found in your personality traits or your habitual patterns of thinking and acting.

You hit the nail on the head regarding the whole spirituality vs. atheism debate. There isn't much actual spirituality to be found in this place..

Where exactly is this "here"? This is an online forum—unless you thought you could just wander around the US looking for rare spiritual plants or enlightened souls, which, I guess, are even harder to find than lone wolves...
Well, I hope you enjoy the realization when it hits you.
Lone Wolves in Spirituality ·
Sam Martinez9 said:A lone wolf can hold his own; he can hunt, eat, and endure the elements entirely on his own, right up until old age, sickness, or an injury finally takes him. It’s the same fate he would face within a pack, just perhaps under different circumstances.

Historically speaking, humans simply weren't built for solitude. If you were cast out from your tribe, you were essentially a dead man walking—starvation or infection would claim you quickly. Our ancestors couldn't survive a broken arm or a leg injury without someone there to tend the wound and provide food while they healed.

The same logic applies today, though we often fail to see it. Modern "lone wolves" aren't actually solitary creatures. They still shop at Target or Walmart, buy their clothes online, rely on the power grid, and depend on municipal water and sewage systems to function.

The only real difference is that these individuals convince themselves they’ve minimized their interaction with the rest of society.

But have they really?

It’s certainly different than it used to be, certainly. Back before smartphones became ubiquitous, if you needed something from someone, you had to physically go to them, look them in the eye, and speak to them directly. Nowadays, you just send a quick text or fire off an email.

In the past, your social circle was usually limited to a handful of people from your school, your neighborhood, or your office. Today, you have all of those connections, plus the people you interact with on digital forums, the personalities you watch on TV, or the voices you listen to on the radio.

Sure, you might lack physical proximity, but honestly, you don't need to be hugging and kissing everyone you meet; human connection is fundamentally about the exchange of ideas, not necessarily physical touch.

A true lone wolf in modern America would be someone who systematically severs all ties to human contact—someone living entirely without radio, television, books, the internet, a job, or even the occasional trip to the grocery store.

Do such people exist today? If they do, they are incredibly rare.

Most people who claim to be lone wolves are simply operating under a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to participate in a human society.

So... do they exist or not? It sounds a bit like a riddle.

I guess this is just the new generation of "wolves"—the whole concept seems to have evolved over the centuries.
Lone Wolves in Spirituality ·
Thomas Nelson25 said:killer video 🙂

Looks like I might head out to the mountains—got some visions about it lately... the Rockies and whatever, lots of forest but mostly rock... it’s been calling to me in my dreams for over three years now..

I used to love hunting for those spots too—you know, places that just feel right, intuitively stimulating... rivers were my thing, too.

If the Alps happen to be nearby... if not, the Rocky Mountains are a decent choice, though if you head out toward the Dollar region, just know you'll actually run into wolves.

I think I’d like to settle on some island with a lighthouse—yeah, I realize there’d be plenty of work, maintaining instruments, dealing with lonely seasons, scorching sun followed by freezing storms, but whatever—if you love something, you go for it. You fish, grow vegetables, deal with dogs, cats, seagulls, and a family wondering where I am or what I'm doing since I'd probably only check in once a year... 🙂
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Thomas Nelson25 said:Man, that's not prophecy—that's just life. Individualism is huge here in the States, and people either spiral into being psychos or they adapt and use that mindset to unlock their creative potential... assuming everything else falls into place, of course.

Oddballs usually have hobbies that are pretty odd or unconventional themselves 😁

But hey, if you really lean into all that, you can actually become an artist—someone who acts as a medium or is reflective of ideas and visions. It might not be totally original, but it's close—that's my definition of art, anyway. I'm not there yet, but I'd love to be—maybe that potential will open up for me down the road... I mean, I am pretty creative when it comes to building things and making stuff up and all that.

Mhmm, so they aren't from the West, East, North, or South... I guess the four cardinal directions don't mean much to them?

Since you remember the video, I guess I jumped the gun—it was supposed to be the topic here, but I couldn't have known...
Lone Wolves in Spirituality ·
Thomas Nelson25 said:It’s really about that wisdom—whether it’s just how they're wired or a defense mechanism—that makes them retreat into their own world. It's that depth you get from looking inward and focusing on things most people totally miss because they're too busy looking outward (which is why they don't "get" spirituality; to them, it's just nonsense, like religion or daydreaming)... though, being *too* detached isn't great either, even if you're a killer writer using all that imagination.

As for character? That goes without saying with wise people—they can adapt to anyone easily.

True—what you mentioned about people suddenly turning toward religion or visions in an instant...

A lone wolf, I guess—they might be perfectly happy with hobbies like model building or photography (like my cousin, who does more than just work on the farm), and there are plenty of "lone wolves" out there writing memoirs—which might actually be interesting to read 🙂.
A few of those lone wolves in my family—you know how it is—often express this "I'm sick of this world" sentiment. They say it openly, and the rest of us usually just stay quiet because, frankly, we often feel the same way. Terrible things happen globally, so it might turn out that we'll see more lone wolves in the near future...
(Not that I'm trying to be a prophet 😁)
Lone Wolves in Spirituality ·
Thomas Nelson25 said:Finding some deeper meaning in life, spirituality... sure, could be that. (Now, whether that's a defense mechanism or not—well, it probably should be, right before it becomes an instinct)

Obviously, fear was the first emotion we ever had—or maybe we're just clones of animals and that mechanism takes over sometimes. But with practice or a bit of wisdom, we can balance it out.

Well, yeah—when emotions or raw impulses drive people and trap them in certain patterns (due to a lack of wisdom), people call that "fate." It's usually just rationalization. 😁

Man, people really miss the details right under their noses, let alone the big picture... so what are they actually seeing or hearing? How are they even living? 😉 (I could never see that veil in front of my eyes—makes things harder for me, like that 'Plato's Cave' thing)

Lone wolves are interesting, I guess. It's arguably easier to reach an agreement with them than with others—provided you don't try to force anything, because what works for most people doesn't necessarily work for a lone wolf.

One learns throughout life, I suppose.🙂
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Thomas Nelson25 said:Mhmm, I wouldn't say it's strictly a psychological mechanism—I mean, where does psychology (individual and social life) end and spirituality begin? It's an endless field...

People play roles to protect themselves from something, from pain—so the role serves a purpose. It sounds ridiculous when you say it out loud, but try telling people that.

Wisdom is... well, first off, you get it.

Kind of like your cousin, that's me. 🙄 And that's how I plan to keep going—I just want more freedom. Everything else (in my book) is just playing a part or following a routine rather than living for yourself. Though, maybe I am just stuck in a defense mechanism myself... but hey, there's creativity and making things, so I've got my arguments. Besides those invisible things, you know? It's hard to explain metaphysics to regular folks—it's just beyond them.😁

And then it becomes more of a soul-mechanism.

The heart goes first, and the mind follows—get it?

You know the saying, "Do what you think is best for you, and if it isn't working, drop it and move on—just don't repeat the same mistake."
(That's usually when the heart wins out.)

Metaphysics should be discussed with metaphysicians—true enough. For instance, when I want to talk about a tree in the park or a bird on a branch, people give me strange looks, because they'd rather discuss something else entirely—something I couldn't care less about.
That's just how it is—everyone has their own version of reality. See ya. 🙂
Lone Wolves in Spirituality ·
Thomas Nelson25 said:Like prisoners—it’s proven that after years of isolation, they start acting like ghosts... mostly because they turn inward toward the soul as a defense mechanism.

It's tough to tell though, since people fake it. I mean, how many 😁 people aren't constantly struggling with the gap between what they want (or their impulses) and reality? That struggle narrows your consciousness, and those folks cling hard to their "world stage" roles—the identities they use to define themselves—and their own illusions (like a chameleon mask) that tie back to the collective... where spiritual people end up on the margins (the center), relatively happy because they actually have wisdom.

Spirituality essentially functions as a defense mechanism—I guess you could say it serves that purpose.

Why people feel the need to put on an act—I guess it's just pure insecurity. They haven't quite figured themselves out yet, maybe. That's all there is to it.

Wise people? I suppose they exist—though I often find that people only seem wise until they inevitably mess up, or perhaps screw someone else over—entirely by accident, of course.

You know, while I'm typing this—I find myself thinking about my cousin out in rural Montana. He’s a total loner, honestly—just lives for the land, raising livestock and farming. He never married, doesn't bother with clubs or bars, and his house stays pretty quiet unless someone absolutely has to drop by. But despite all that, whenever we actually catch up, the conversation feels more meaningful than anything I could pull from ten different people in the middle of Chicago.
Well, I guess I've been sitting here reflecting on all of that for a bit...
Lone Wolves in Spirituality ·
Thomas Nelson25 said:So basically, there's a huge chance that the "weirdo" type is naturally solitary and spiritual, even if they aren't aware of it or don't see themselves that way. (Once you start looking inward, it leads to spirituality—even if it's just through psychological regression, for that matter).

Most people are neurotics—though maybe not someone like Bruce Adams—because we want one thing for our souls and then reality hits us in the face. Just imagine how hard it is for folks who don't bother with self-growth at all; they have zero clue who they are, yet they just accept life as it is, even while being miserable. Why do you think that is? (That's what a neurotic is, plain and simple).

It could be quite likely—why not?—in any case, I wouldn't call it a small possibility, just a reverse one...

Look, I don't really hang out with many neurotic people anymore, so if I happen to be around some and they tell me I'm calming them down—well, sure, why wouldn't I be? I'm at peace with myself (🙂), even when I'm unhappy about something, I just deal with it. But that's in the real world, not here (😁).
(Since on this forum, I worry I might raise the tension too often, and I wouldn't want anyone thinking that)

A little humor doesn't hurt, does it? 🙂
Lone Wolves in Spirituality ·
Thomas Nelson25 said:And who’s actually qualified to say what spirituality is, or decide that being an oddball makes someone non-spiritual? These people spend their time alone—they're more "inwardly focused," if you will.😉 That doesn't mean they have mental health issues, but then again, let's be real—everyone's got some level of neurosis in them. Some people lean into it as a strength, while others just struggle through it.

I guess you could say a spiritual person is simply a spiritual person. There's your definition, I suppose. 🙂😉

Where did this idea come from that everyone is neurotic? People just snap when they're under pressure. That's why self-reflection and downtime are usually recommended.
I don't think we're talking about clinical patients here—unless I've misunderstood, which I might have.
Lone Wolves in Spirituality ·
Thomas Nelson25 said:then we're talking about unconventional folks...though being a "weirdo" is actually pretty standard (makes me wonder what those people even do when they're alone with their thoughts)...but still, they aren't exactly "normal"...for instance, I wouldn't call myself normal either...so what even is normalcy? (In the 21st century and the internet age, the bar is set way differently than it was twenty or thirty years ago)

and so on..

To me, being an 'oddball' feels more like that performative 'spirituality' that isn't actually spiritual at all.
That’s why I mentioned my previous point...

It really depends on whose yardstick you're using to measure 'normalcy'—or rather, what that word even signifies in today's world.
For example, I have some relatives like that—people who get labeled as eccentrics. Some live out in rural areas, others are in the heart of Chicago, and they all know each other since they're family, but... they can't stand one another. They're just incompatible, likely due to different personality traits—even 'lone wolves' have their differences, I guess.