Intrusive thoughts—do they only happen in dreams?
in Psychology & Therapy ·
Elizabeth Castillo87 said:The thing is, once you achieve lucidity in a dream, you suddenly have access to tools that just don't exist in the waking world. We aren't shackled by matter anymore.I don't buy the whole "dreams come from the subconscious" thing for a second. There's way more to it than that. If you haven't read Carlos Castaneda, do yourself a favor and pick it up. His mentor, Don Juan, argues that certain things are tied to the spirit—they're messages, essentially—while other stuff might just be pure fantasy or even actual alternate dimensions. Some of those worlds are almost like ours, while others are completely beyond anything our human brains can wrap itself around. Of course, if you actually want to be able to perceive these things and consciously travel to other parts of the universe, you need specific knowledge. You need someone to guide you through that realm and years upon years of relentless practice.
I actually started reading Castaneda after I went through some experiences that neither psychoanalysis nor cognitive neuroscience could explain away.
I don't know, though... maybe I just lacked that mentor to walk me through the experience.
Yeah, that’s where the real issue lies. Honestly, maybe if you try astral projection—if you can already pull off lucid dreaming without breaking a sweat, you'll nail it—it might help. Just give it a shot, it doesn't cost you anything. I've had a few pretty incredible experiences myself.
Jacob Sanchez7 said:Look, as long as you're wrestling with your ego—as long as you’re staring at the words instead of looking through them—you’re going to struggle with reality. The ego will just keep battering away at your perception. But once that ego finally settles down at night alongside your brain? That's when things change.
This isn't some guide to enlightenment. It’s just a guide for you. If you’re still struggling to figure out who you actually are, maybe Mooji can help. ^^
Also, what’s the actual distinction between the spirit and the subconscious? If anyone can clear that up. (Actually, I’m not looking for an explanation—I’m looking for you to answer it for yourselves.)
Well, good thing you brought that up. In my view, there isn't any difference. "Subconscious" is just a scientific label for everything recorded—even the stuff we aren't aware of and things the conscious mind could never possibly grasp. You see that most clearly when someone is under hypnosis. So, the subconscious is essentially the spirit possessing a personality; it can access all information and knowledge. I'm sure someone's going to ask why we don't just use that info for the good of humanity, but I think that comes down to the very nature of the spirit.
Jacob Sanchez7 said:I can tell you right now: don't try to mask anything with forced positive thinking. That's fine, sure, but there's a catch. Those dreams are pulling things from your subconscious—stuff you actually need to confront so your waking life can run better. No matter how much positive meaning we assign to our surroundings, it doesn't change the fact that we sometimes need to break old behavioral patterns and actually 'work' on becoming the people we want to be. [To those of you speaking out of fear, I'll just say: try it and judge for yourselves.]
The subconscious shapes dreams based on the specific makeup of your mind. Everyone dreams what they uniquely need to see, and the symbols or situations will be whatever is necessary for them. Overthinking is useless. Objective observation is the only way. Also, the main bridge between a dream and reality is the emotion. You have to link the feelings within the dream to real-life situations where you felt that exact same way. (For instance, you felt Emotion A when talking to someone; then in a dream, Emotion A repeats and leads to a catastrophe. That tells you that you need to look at the connection between the dream scenario and your actual life to see what you might have missed.)
But really, it’s all great, because it helps us become better people. 😁
@crimsonfox26: this might be useful for you, too.
So, you're saying the mind sits above the subconscious? What even *is* the subconscious to you? Define it.
Personally, I think the spirit sends us messages through dreams depending on how we're living our lives—whether we're on the right track or not. But then again, some dreams are just products of the mind and have nothing to do with the spirit, like lucid dreaming.