Posts by wanderingheron9

Anyway, back to the topic at hand.
Both of them are absolute beasts when it comes to jiu-jitsu, but man, look at how much she visually Microsofts him—I mean, considering she’s a woman and all. It isn't just about her makeup and style, either; she's got him beat on height and build too.
I’m honestly crossing my fingers that he can actually wrap him up in a match, otherwise, who knows if she'd end up dominating him here as well.😲

Jesse Price said:Exactly, don't be a total loser. I mean, you aren't seriously considering breaking your own legs over in Turkey just to gain an extra inch on your vertical jump, are you? Honestly, the thought of you doing that makes me want to scream. :ma d:

Oh, I'm totally down. I'll head straight to Turkey right now and break my legs just to prove a point to you.
At the end of the day, all I really want—and I'm not asking for much here—is to finally shut up this random Jesse Price guy and his goofy little avatar.

Jesse Price said:I’d honestly tell you to just embrace who you are, though I’m probably being too optimistic about that happening.

Basically the ultimate anthem for any average Joe stuck living a totally mid life.

Jesse Price said:It really comes down to what they're made of, honestly, he probably just grabbed some cheap pair off Amazon. Tinted lenses and prescription ones are two totally different animals.

Besides, I’d definitely suggest getting a new pair because old lenses can basically become a breeding ground for bacteria and end up causing infections.

Wait, so $100 lenses are considered "cheap" now? Well, if you're the expert, why don't you recommend a better brand then—ideally something that can survive a hurricane and glows in the dark.🙄

Kate Fox58 said:Are you seriously going to defend me when people are out here roasting my jawline?? :ka va:

He’ll play along and defend you, sure, but deep down he’s probably thinking the exact same thing the critics are.🤣

Exactly, those lenses create a glare, though I have no clue where Jesse Price saw any blue tint.
Maybe he should grab himself a pair just so he can actually see what's going on.

Ashley Brooks49 said:I wasn't saying you were ugly, I just don't think you're above average. Honestly, I have no idea what you "lookism bros" are even talking about.

It’s always the same thing—you say this, the bros say that, the girls say the other... But honestly, if you want to know someone's actual SMV, just look at how people treat them in real life, especially the opposite sex, whether it's at a Starbucks, a local bar, or just within your own social and professional circles, and personally, I'm pretty happy with where I stand.
I'm not exactly some billionaire gigachad who gets worshiped instantly, but I definitely don't blend into the background like a total normie either.
At the end of the day, why do you think my boss—someone from a completely different world than mine—started checking me out? You really think it was just because I'm a hard worker? Yeah, right.
After everything went down, she actually dumped her long-term boyfriend, a guy from Texas who, by the way, absolutely MOGGED me with his height, not to mention his money and status.
It's not like that's going to happen to some random normie.

Richard Sanders7 said:From what I've seen, all those "alpha males" I know are, at best, mediocre when it comes to brains, and they're all out here obsessing over hunter eyes and masculine features. Then you look at the eyes of Euler, Gauss, Einstein, Ramanujan, Tesla... They're all asymmetrical, NCT, or just straight-up bug-eyed.

Facial aesthetics have zero correlation with intelligence. Intelligence is mostly about genetics, followed by how you nurture and train that potential (your brain).

By the way, most women don't actually have hunter eyes; they just use makeup to fake it. It's funny, I haven't seen a single woman try to use makeup to simulate negative CT.

Jose Rogers61 said:I actually downloaded a PDF textbook on facial aesthetics once. It's the kind of stuff orthodontists use. Not sure how useful that is when you're thinking about sex, though...

It's not smart because it totally warps your perception of what looks "normal" and ruins your expectations, so you'll find it hard to be attracted to anyone unless they're way out of your league.

Ashley Brooks49 said:The guy on the left is literally a caricature. It’s not even about taste anymore, it’s just basic perception.
You're basically the male version of those girls who try way too hard to get that Barbie look and end up getting ten different surgeries to make it happen.

Also, I have no clue who convinced you that you look above average.
Probably just some random girls on this forum being sweet because they see a guy who isn't even forty yet.

Exactly, and here I am, all operated on and looking distorted.
You can tell from a mile away when someone is an operated caricature—take someone like neven Ciganović, for example. This guy on the left I posted is actually natural.

I really only value the opinions of people who actually understand lookism, and none of those forum flirts fit that description. Calling him a "high tier normie" is a pretty realistic assessment that doesn't stray too far from the actual average.
But hey, if it makes you feel better, fine, I'm ugly... it just doesn't make sense to force me into a category where I simply don't belong.

granitemarlin said:The right one looks like Hayden Christensen in profile, but the left one looks terrifying and unattractive.

Just now discovered this thread :D

Yeah, and even that Hayden isn't anything special (except maybe playing Darth Vader), he's not even chadlite.

Jesse Price said:This guy absolutely MOGGED both of those boys. :m irko:

😍

Jesse Price said:Did you notice he's wearing blue contacts? :lo l: :l ol: :lo l:

Man, I have no idea how you noticed I have blue eyes/contacts, or if anyone else here has ever even seen me with blue eyes before?🤷

dustypilot11 said:Look, I’m not some kind of mindless drone. Whether someone is easy to manipulate or not has absolutely nothing to do with how they look, and honestly, I don't have the patience required to play mind games anyway.
I just said the right side looks better because that's my preference, simple as that. The left side looks kind of dull because of those eyes. Though, I gotta say, I actually dig that floral shirt—I could totally borrow his clothes if we were hanging out.

I’ve never seen anyone say hooded or hunter eyes look dull before.
Usually, it's the guys with negative canthal tilt—you know, that "sad puppy" look—who end up looking like that.

It’s true, the guy on the right has those softer facial features that make him look way more agreeable, which honestly makes him a master at that subtle kind of feminine manipulation, whereas the one on the left looks like he’s just itching to jump into a UFC match and gives off such an intimidating vibe.

Ashley Brooks49 said:Honestly, that second guy is like ten times better looking, lol. At least if you’re only comparing those two, it's an easy call.

Honestly, my junk is just a hundred times better looking.🤣
Man, he's absolutely getting wrecked around the eyes and that brow ridge, and don't even get me started on his jawline and ramus.
I'm not saying the guy on the right is ugly or anything, it's just that the one on the left is a total chad while the other guy is just some basic normie.
So, like I was saying earlier, you know how that guy Lažan always claims that opposites attract? Well, he’s actually arguing that people who are just average end up gravitating toward each other...🐔

Jesse Price said:You're lying to me. I swear, a newborn baby with a diaper full of crap would probably stare to the left for an extra 0.3 seconds, which basically proves this first one is objectively more attractive. :kav a:

It honestly feels like even the local college kids aren't giving Sokić any attention—I'd say he's getting hit on maybe five percent of the time at most.😂

Charles Bailey2 said:

Lmao, that's actually hilarious... so good.👍

Jesse Price said:I don't think that's quite right. The guy spent a massive amount of time pushing these imaginary physical standards while tearing everyone else down—you know, making comments like "XY is subhuman, lol why are you getting mad?" all while hiding behind this thin veil of "just joking" and acting like none of it affected him. In reality, his whole writing style was just a way to project his own stuff and make other people feel insecure, especially women.

Kate Cox15 said:It’s basically the first step toward dehumanization, and I’ve pointed that out to wanderingheron9 more times than I can count. The moderators saw my criticism and just didn't do anything about it.

If the moderators aren't bothered by it, then how are dustypilot11 or I even supposed to formally complain? (since apparently, we're being accused of that now). Your only options are to argue with wanderingheron9 in the replies or just walk away from a place like this. We did both.

Look, talking about how beauty can be objectively measured is one thing—it's an interesting topic—but you shouldn't need to resort to dehumanizing people to have that discussion.

wanderingheron9 knew exactly when he was crossing the line every single time, so I don't get why everyone is acting surprised now.

Actually, these were my posts that started the whole firestorm on the US forums. I wrote this before Lata decided to start a thread specifically just for "mandibles."
Nothing I said here is factually wrong, no matter how much you want it to be, Jesse Price.

overall (skull and eye area)

ramus & masseter

teeth palate

And then this certain crowd comes at me with that condescending, arrogant attitude—people like MotherOfPearl, for instance—telling me I'm just some idiot on drugs. Well, naturally, I'm going to tear them apart right along with their recessive jawlines.
I was only brutal toward the people who were being stuck-up, acting tough, or trying to provoke me.
The biggest irony is that Lata keeps inviting me to hang out with the US crew (it's actually gotten kind of awkward to say no).🤣 If they couldn't stand looking at me on the forums, I can only imagine how they'll feel seeing me in real life.

Kate Cox15 said:If we’re going by the exact same logic wanderingheron9 uses to label people subhuman, then you’re definitely in that category too.
So, are you actually on the same page as Syar here?

Anthony Nguyen81 is clearly high IQ, so there's no way he's subhuman.

Adam Lee13 said:They basically dragged you into it by pulling some strings behind the scenes and lobbying around, you know? I actually managed to dodge that whole mess entirely, even though my name was being tossed around in those circles too. I’ve been hanging out on these forums since back in 2008—this is actually my third or fourth handle at this point—and honestly, I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve begged the mods to just ban me for good, but they never once listened to my pleas.

dustypilot11 and that radical Perpetona are basically the masterminds behind this whole purge, while everyone else was just following their lead. Honestly, you can't really blame anyone else when you clearly don't know how to get organized or actually fight back; you're just playing right into their hands.

Maybe try taking advantage of that little spat between dustypilot11 and honeychild...

Honestly, asking for a permanent ban feels a bit extra, like you're just looking for drama. If you aren't feeling the vibe or don't feel like posting anymore, just walk away from the keyboard. I've definitely had my own stretches where I wouldn't touch this place for six months or even a year at a time, and life just goes on.

Kate Cox15 is dealing with way more drama over on Wikipedia than I ever did during my time there, honestly. And even though dustypilot11 doesn't exactly see eye to eye with me on half the stuff I believe, we actually get along pretty well—I really don't think she'd ever try to pull anything behind my back or waste her energy on that kind of nonsense.
It’s like these random lowlifes suddenly decided to flood the forums asking about US-er stuff all at once, just to stir the pot and try to bait the Admin into coming over to the US side to clean up the mess.
Some guy just dropped a total bait thread, and honestly, if you fell for it, that's on you.

Anthony Nguyen81 said:Honestly, wanderingheron9 wasn't even doing anything wrong, but everyone just jumped on him for no reason at all... it was just one of those massive, mindless pile-ons that happens sometimes online.

It’s not exactly a complete disaster, but calling it anything other than a total cop-out feels like a stretch, especially since they handled it with such zero backbone.

Kate Cox15 said:Hey wanderingheron9, I know most people think that whole "blue sky" thing was totally out of left field, but honestly, I wouldn't be shocked at all if they hit you with some warnings or even a ban.

Anthony Nguyen81 thinks the whole thing is just "completely pointless," but honestly, man, you’ve gotta tell me why you think there was actually any logic in expecting sanctions to hit at some point.

Thanks so much! ^^

I know I can be a bit much sometimes—honestly, I’ve definitely been known to get pretty blunt when the situation calls for it—but at the end of the day, I stand by everything I said and I don't regret a single word of it.
If the guys in America want their own little "safe space," then hey, fine, they can have it. If they’re really looking to surround themselves with thirsty simps and total pushovers, well, there's plenty of them out there waiting.

Kate Cox15 said:Honestly, I told him straight up that this whole "blackpill" persona just doesn't suit him. It’s not working for wanderingheron9 either, because if they actually stuck to their true selves, they'd just be sweet little pushovers, which would be fine.

What are you even talking about? What "nature"?
You should've grown a spine before trying to act like a simp. I've had zero respect for simps or white knights since my high school days.

Adam Lee13 said:wanderingheron9 really let me down too... he's acting totally oblivious and clearly doesn't realize who actually played him... I'm just done with them at this point...

EDIT: Don't think I don't see what you're doing, playing nice and cooling things down with everyone. If people are smart, they'll give you a taste of your own medicine. If they aren't, they'll just keep simping for the ones who dragged them here in the first place.

Look, I just don't have the energy or the patience to deal with all this petty payback and nonsense. I'd much rather focus on padding my bank account or grabbing a coffee with my boss than arguing on some random forum.
Maybe this whole split is actually a good thing in the long run.

dustypilot11 said:Oh, stop being dramatic. I wasn't lobbying to get you guys kicked out, just moved over to the incel topic.

I shouldn't have needed moving anywhere because I was sticking to my own thread, which is exactly why I started it in the first place.
They should probably just lock the whole thing down now since those guys over there haven't got a clue what they're talking about.

George Cook31 said:Is this that thing where you say something she actually relates to, which ends up bothering her, so she catches you off guard, insults you, and then later acts like you're the problem even though, objectively speaking, she was ten times worse than you?
I've dealt with my fair share of people like that. :he kla:

Adam Lee13 said:And now if you write something negative based on actual experience just four or five times, they immediately label you as some misogynistic jerk or a man-hater, and then they just tear you apart from every angle.

God forbid you actually snap back after being insulted seven or eight times; the second you defend yourself, suddenly you're just some low-life troll.

That’s basically what they kept doing to me over there. Looking back, I wasn't even directly insulting anyone; I was just making specific points or talking about general stuff—mostly getting into those debates about lookism and jawlines, which quickly turned into its own little sub-thread where I spent most of my time. Honestly, I didn't really post anywhere else on this site except for that one spot, so if I wasn't their cup of tea, they could have easily just ignored me. But nooo, they kept coming back specifically to pick at me collectively, and once I started pushing back, it was all "oh, there are problems on this site."
Basically, I was expecting some kind of warning or maybe a short suspension before anything serious happened, like a partial ban.
Instead, they went behind my back and just slapped me with a partial ban. It’s wild how they act like they're handing out pink slips in real life.☕

Rachel Palmer56 said:Where on earth did that "42+" figure come from? :ice:
That's a pretty wild number to throw out there...

And honestly, what's even going on here? Who are all these people acting like this?

Now that I've finally gotten a decent stake in the USA market, you should probably expect things to heat up around here, Rachel Palmer56. At the end of the day, we're all in this together, right?😉

Alex Carter said:Hit up Dodi for some late-night fun if that's what you're after 5️⃣

I'm definitely picking up some major snob vibes here.
We're all cool with each other, aren't we?

George Cook31 said:It really comes down to how a woman looks, her attitude, how she thinks, and what she's into in the bedroom.
Whether she's 25 or 40 doesn't matter much as long as those other boxes are checked. 🙂

That's just for a hookup. If I were looking for something serious—like someone to actually start a family with—then yeah, age would definitely be a factor.

Same goes for the body count.🧐

Brian Howard2 said:Big thanks to latica for bringing three more newcomers to the off :ka:

Honestly, latica isn't even the one to blame for that.

Alexander Adams94 said:If you can just solve it, Nothanks.

Man, have you noticed how Gojza totally digs you because she thinks you're hot, even though she spends half her time hating on your takes? It kind of reminds me of how Tisa used to act back in the day, you know?

Haha, Nothanks.☕

Anida loves me, Dubu, and klon. I definitely remember Tisa. I actually went through something pretty similar on a US message board a few years back, just staying low-key while writing in my usual long-winded style. I ended up getting trashed by people about my looks, which was wild since they didn't even know what I looked like.

Alexander Adams94 said:Nah, it's just that you aren't hot, so there's zero point in her even talking to you.

But honestly, you're totally crushing on Hani. I bet hardly any other guy on this forum would want to break down a girl's defenses the way you'd do it with Hani. She’s gorgeous and super interesting, man, you'd be lucky to get a shot.

True enough. I can't help but wonder if Richard Sanders7 ever actually got a chance with his crush Hani—if he did, do you think he could actually play it cool, or would his instincts just take over?

Adam Lee13 said:She’s all talk, really; as soon as she feels even a little "threatened" by someone she actually likes, she just bolts...

She'll just get a sudden burst of energy, get a little worked up, and then retreat straight back into her little cave right here

Alexander Adams94 said:Niptuck. :ro fl:

Is she even still around? I seem to remember her having that long face and being all fired up as a single mom.

quietcrane63, if I were you, I'd just hang out here on the boards for a bit, and eventually, you'll start to figure out who's who and what the vibe is.
It’s pretty unlikely anyone’s actually going to sit around and recap every single thing that’s gone down over the last few years.

Every six months or so, Pandora just shows up, sticks their neck out, and says "hey," and honestly, it's been that way for ages.🙄
I mean, look at me—I'm a total couch potato, but I still managed to end up in better shape than most of those guys over there.

Jesse Howard43 said:I honestly think you'd find much more liberal attitudes if you hung out on those niche redpill or blackpill forums instead.

Man, where is this all heading? At this rate, we’ll all be forced to move our conversations over to the dark web just to speak our minds.

quietcrane63 said:I've noticed that on most international forums, there’s this massive sense of absolute free speech. You get all kinds of stuff—insults, racism, swearing, misogyny, misandry—and people just let it fly, which honestly makes things way more intense and interesting to follow. The only real line you can't cross is calling for genocide or ethnic cleansing. If you look at this from a bird's-eye view, it’s easy to make it seem like it’s just that tiny, uptight clique ruining the vibe around here, rather than us folks who actually got hit with those property tax reassessments.

Morning, everyone! Hope you all slept well. 😁

Alexander Adams94, you gotta pull some strings and get me a pardon 😁

hiddenmarlin14 said:look, I really don't want to start any drama 🙂

Honestly, I can't play a single note and my creative juices are basically non-existent right now.
I'm just gonna say whatever it takes to keep things chill at home.☕

quietcrane63 said:I just logged off and checked out the US, and man, the forum feels boring as hell now. Honestly, looking back, I don't even think we need moderators anymore. Unless, of course, they decide to scrap the moderator roles for everyone else too.

I had a feeling this was coming eventually. I remember mentioning not too long ago that this whole utopia wouldn't last forever.
As for other American forums, I'm not really sure if there are any others left that feel more laid-back. Until yesterday, the US felt pretty chill.
Regarding the mods, who knows what's next. They recently handed them out to Wiki, Mickey, and Unz, but they were stripped away after only two weeks.
It felt like some kind of experiment to see if the US would be better off without them.
In my opinion, having any moderators just ends up cheapening the vibe of the forum.

George Cook31 said:I'm reading that Sisyphus guy over on PZK and honestly, I can't believe someone can post such absolute garbage. 😂
He doesn't even need a username or an avatar. You recognize him instantly just by his posts.

His main issue is that he has no clue how to talk like a normal person.
He sounds like some politically correct bot that won't stop spamming.

George Cook31 said:Reading the US is basically like reading articles on BuzzFeed, and trying to actually join those debates is even crazier.
Maybe the crew in chat is okay—chat is just chat—but the rest of the forum has become 🙂

I actually liked the old version of the forum and the girls who used to hang out here. I miss that. Mostly the girls, though.
It’s no wonder that when I'm having a good week, staying busy with work, or heaven forbid, actually in a relationship, I completely forget about the forum exists.

The US used to be cool because things were always happening and you could actually find a conversation going at any hour of the day.
But still, chat US is where I belong. It's like home; no matter where you go, you always find your way back to where you started.

hiddenmarlin14 said:If it's written down in sheet music, I can at least play it, but you can't even do that :B

I mean, you can't expect to pull off those super complex pieces without putting in the practice hours first.☕
I’ve reached a point where I can barely play anything anymore, but you know me well enough to realize my struggle isn't really about finger dexterity—it's mostly just a mental block at this stage.😉