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William Bennett53 said:darkhawk, this is perfectly obvious. Thanks for clarifying in case anyone was actually confused, but I’m asking everyone to stop drifting off-topic.
Anyone can post their own words, and a forum member is allowed to post a moderator's warning on the board. It isn't "fast-tracking" anything. Therefore, nothing controversial happened here; the moderator simply posted their own warning.
@electricstag16/">@@electricstag16 - check the facts before you start pointing fingers.
Where exactly does it say that in the rules?
And what about insults?
darkhawk said:That is simply not true!
Therefore, the issue arises when someone publishes someone else's message. Anyone can publish their own content.
Forgive my intrusion here, but I feel it is vital to point out that moderators should not be publishing private messages—even those regarding administration or moderation—without the sender's explicit permission. If they are allowed to do this, it provides them with extra room for manipulation, which I suspect they would exploit quite skillfully.
Here is what the Terms of Service state:
To maintain order and ensure discussions remain at an acceptable level on this forum, please adhere to the rules. On this forum, it is prohibited to:
violate United States laws (specifically noting calls for hate speech or discrimination, justifying or glorifying criminal acts, copyright infringement, pedophilia, animal cruelty, etc.)
advertise services or products without administrator approval (please contact Marketing if you wish to advertise)
post unnecessary or unwanted information, off-topic content, or post in a manner inappropriate for the forum or that reduces readability (this includes inappropriate titles and signatures)
interfere with the Forum editorial staff (ignoring warnings, attempting to restore deleted texts, etc.)
use clone accounts while any user account is banned from the Forum, or use multiple accounts in a way that confuses other users (arguing on the same thread with multiple nicknames, supporting your own arguments, etc.)
insulting interlocutors, intentionally provoking personal arguments, or engaging in non-constructive national, religious, or similar conflicts (trolling)
publishing the private data of other forum members
publishing private messages
Therefore, when I registered, I agreed to the fact that
publishing private messages is prohibited.
There is absolutely no mention of any exceptions. Therefore, this is either a violation of the rules, or the Terms of Service are a total fraud.
William Bennett53:
There isn't anything stopping you from posting your own content here, though you should know that moderator warnings are handed out pretty regularly on this subreddit. If you actually want to see how things are run, go take a look at the ban appeals or the banned users list. You'll see exactly what we're talking about.
It’s no secret to me that the rules get broken on a regular basis around here.
Honestly, this whole argument is just grasping at straws now. The moderators already laid out exactly why you received a partial ban, and since the supermods and admins have backed them up, there’s really nothing left to discuss. Trying to nitpick a moderator's post—one that the moderator actually wrote themselves—is just pathetic.
You call that tying up loose ends? I call it justice. If I’m being held accountable for something, then it’s only right that everyone else facing the same "sin" gets slapped with the same consequences. Period.
Even if we assume everything was done by the book—which it wasn't—we still haven't addressed the insults. I am personally offended by what the Knights Templar wrote to me. Yet, strangely enough, everyone here is just ignoring that part. Not a single person has even mentioned it. If anyone tries to pivot the conversation toward private messages, let’s be clear: that's just a cheap tactic to deflect from the actual verbal abuse. It won't work.
The rules apply to everyone equally. No exceptions. 👍
Not for everyone.
Michelle Evans said:Posting private messages on this subreddit is permitted only if they concern moderation or explaining administrative procedures, provided they don't contain any sensitive personal data. Otherwise, managing this community would become an absolute nightmare.
The rules apply to everyone equally.
Where exactly in the rules does it say that?
If the rules are supposed to be universal, will the Knights Templar be punished for harassment too?
swifttiger75 said:electricstag16,
You’re the one who posted the image on Reddit. I just quoted it to respond to you. Sure, it’s one of those "creative" posts you used to introduce yourself in the PDF, and my reference to the image was merely a nod to your little creative contribution—whenever you look at it, just remember what you contributed! As for what the image actually says or whatever deep meaning you think you see in it, I really have nothing to say to that. I noticed you deleted it from troll.me, which honestly speaks volumes.
Hopefully, that clears up any confusion. 😉
Exactly. I posted it, and I was rightfully punished for it. But you quoted it here and then directed me toward it, which effectively means you're claiming I am whatever that image depicts. Besides, this isn't just about some picture; as I’ve already stated, there are verbal insults involved here too. All of this is offensive to me, and I demand that actual steps be taken. If I’m getting banned just for pointing someone toward an image, then it would be only fair if you were too. If I’m being banned because I said something someone didn't like, then you should be facing the same consequences. But I know that won't happen; clearly, you have the special privilege of insulting people on this forum without consequence.
P.S.
Didn't you say you weren't going to respond to me anymore?
I’m also wondering if swifttiger75 is going to face any sanctions for his insults.
In the very same post where he violated the rules against posting private messages, he had the nerve to call me a "destructive phenomenon". He told me that I "don't fit in" and then had the audacity to say, "if you have more issues, look at this picture. Maybe it'll clear your head. ". The image itself says, "you sir, are a f*cking retard". It was incredibly patronizing. Personally, I find that highly offensive.
I’ve been banned for much smaller infractions—often without any legitimate reason at all—so I want to know if he’s actually going to face consequences here, or if this Reddit is just going to continue its tradition of double standards.
Brenda Cook4:
Alright, that’s it. You’ve officially earned two red cards from me. To all the idiots on this Reddit thread: stop acting like you have a single coherent thought between you. Honestly, I’m exhausted just reading this garbage. It’s pathetic how much time you people waste arguing over nothing, pretending you actually know what you're talking about when you clearly don't. You're all just noise. Get a life. Another red card. They’re flagging me again for trying to bring back a deleted post. This subreddit is becoming an absolute joke.
It’s interesting to note that the Reddit user I supposedly "insulted" hasn't faced any sanctions whatsoever, despite their blatant off-topic comments and the way they targeted me. That’s exactly why I responded the way I did. But then again, it’s common knowledge by now that the rules aren't applied equally to everyone here.
I'm going to post that deleted message right here:
Quote: Brenda Cook4:
I need to get my card.
electricstag16
Oh, what absolute mercy.
Brenda Cook4
Alright, this is my final post on this topic.
I don't know who asked, but I'll say it: most of what you people are discussing on Reddit is absolute garbage. It’s nothing but mindless noise. Every time I log on, it’s the same recycled nonsense. I remember back when I was working at a firm in Chicago, we actually valued substance. We didn't just shout into the void for attention. Now? It's all fluff. Get it together.
It’s entirely up to you. But let’s be clear: if you keep harassing me, making threats, or trying to dictate my thoughts and what I'm allowed to say, I will be forced to defend myself.
Brenda Cook4
If you’re having any issues with moderation—or if you feel like you need to have a serious sit-down with the mods—feel free to just shoot me a DM.
Any further posts of this nature will be deleted.
electricstag16
Do the moderators follow a different set of rules? Is it okay for you to throw around threats, delete posts just because they don't suit your mood, or derail entire threads with off-topic nonsense simply because there’s nobody above you to hold you accountable? Isn't that a blatant abuse of power? Or am I just seeing double standards in action here?
Brenda Cook4
I honestly believe I’ve been incredibly patient up to this point. So, please.
electricstag16
You really showed an incredible amount of tolerance and professionalism there. Seriously, hats off to you. |
I didn't break a single rule in that post—not one. In fact, you didn't follow any of the rules yourself during that exchange you started in the first place. Yet, somehow, my post gets deleted while yours stays up? Unbelievable.
By the way, take a look at that section I bolded. There's the real reason why I didn't just walk away.
Anyway, here's our communication from page 14. Natural communication.Look, I really tried to be polite here, but I’m asking you nicely: stop being patronizing and quit calling out people on Reddit. If this spirituality stuff—or whatever this topic is—seems stupid to you, then just skip it. Seriously. Just move on.
And what's with this condescending attitude toward me? Do you honestly think that's acceptable? Oh, wait—I forgot. I suppose the rules don't actually apply to everyone equally around here.
Whether I’m experiencing some kind of bottom-tier spirituality or not is none of your business. You have absolutely no right to pretend you can read my mind—or anyone else's for that matter—and then use those delusions to publicly call me out without any actual cause. It’s pathetic. You don't get to lecture me, hand out "points," or delete my posts for "violating rules" that you clearly violated yourself first. If you ask me, you only gave yourself credit for being off-topic because you're clearly just making it up as you go. Which one did you start? If she hadn't gone out of her way to attack me without a shred of evidence—and then had the nerve to delete her own posts to cover her tracks—I wouldn't have said a single word.
And all this after I specifically asked you to stop attacking the other users in this discussion. Some of those insulting posts have already been deleted. Even when swifttiger75 reached out to ask you to cut it out, you ignored them. Then come the reports from the rest of the community, then more pleas to just stop, and still... nothing. It’s gotten to the point where even the head admin was questioning why I hadn't stepped in and handed out sanctions back when I was the only moderator on duty. that post of yours, the one Ego sanctioned. We already reached a consensus on the partial.
Look, if you’re interpreting my views and opinions as personal attacks, that’s your own issue to deal with. If I recall correctly, nowhere in the rules does it state that moderators have the authority to hand out bans or act hypocritically just because they don't like what someone thinks. You can ask me until you're blue in the face, but I am not changing my mind just because it bothers you—or because it's easier for you to nitpick everyone else instead of actually doing the job you were hired for.
The link isn't working.
* publicizing someone else's posts is prohibited; swifttiger75, from what I can see, posted his own PM.
Is that right? Because I don't see that anywhere in the rules. The rules mention "posting private messages," but there is absolutely nothing about someone else's.
But then again, as the regulars on Reddit already know, the rules apparently don't apply to you people.
Is swifttiger75 going to face sanctions for leaking private messages? I’m genuinely curious about this...
swifttiger75:
They say a picture is worth a thousand words, and since I have zero desire to go back and forth with you in endless threads because you clearly struggle with basic concepts, I'll just use this image you posted on one of the spirituality threads.
In my book, that image only earns you a yellow card; honestly, you could have taken a red and lost a massive amount of points on several different counts.
Exactly. I've been penalized, and rightfully so. I didn't argue, nor did I bring up that specific post here. Are you actually suggesting that my ban from "spirituality" is a punishment for something I've already been disciplined for?
Since you're still claiming nothing was explained to you, I'm leaving these two private messages I sent you as clarification right here.
Quote: swifttiger75 says:
electricstag16,
I think the title makes everything perfectly clear. You were already on thin ice, and we've simply concluded that this is the best way forward. You just haven't been able to fit in on Reddit. Most of your activity has been destructive toward various threads—and look, I'm not saying having a different opinion is an issue, the problem is the way you express it.
I'm sure you'll find plenty of other topics on the rest of the site to occupy your time.
Enjoy the rest of your stay on the site.
TBD |
Like I said, the reason is simple: you haven't done anything specifically rule-breaking that hasn't already been penalized; it's just that we don't like you, you're a nuisance, and we're kicking you out.
And this... Quote: swifttiger75 said:The decision isn't mine alone; it's a collective one, as partial bans require agreement between moderators, super-mods, and admins. It's not about hurting your feelings or bruising your ego. The sentiment that you should be removed existed long before I stepped into a moderator role. Regarding the rules and violations, you have to understand that we look at a user's total activity and productivity on Reddit. In your case, the vast majority of your posts boil down to belittling others, an arrogant attitude that frequently crosses the line into insults, trolling... etc. Essentially, you've been identified as a destructive force that disrupts the "spirit" of Reddit, which is why these sanctions were implemented.
You've had similar experiences before, so don't act surprised. You've been warned numerous times, through warnings and cards alike. This is just the logical next step following your behavior on the spirituality section of the PDF.
I'm heading out now; we can talk later if necessary.
It’s the same thing as above, just pluralized. I haven't committed any major infractions that weren't already dealt with; it's just that you all don't like me. Your subjective impression is that I'm a "destructive force," that I'm "unproductive," and that you simply dislike my attitude. Well, gentlemen, I couldn't care less about your personal impressions. Rules are what matter. At least, they should be—but clearly, that's not the case here.
Look, I’m done here. I have zero intention of entertaining any more of your questions. Everything is crystal clear at this point... though if you're still feeling confused about who's right, just look at the image. Maybe that'll clear things up for you. 😉
Of course you don't plan on responding—it's easy to stay silent when you know I'm right. But honestly, that's not even the point. The point is that you think you have the power to silence whoever you feel like, while the actual rules mean absolutely nothing to you. Once again, congratulations on the blatant hypocrisy and the double standards.
P.S.
"To maintain order and ensure discussions on Reddit remain civil, please adhere to the community guidelines. On Reddit, it is strictly prohibited to:
post private messages"
It’s pretty obvious the rules don't apply to everyone equally...
First of all, I’d like to congratulate moderator Brenda Cook4 on her sheer professionalism.
She jumps into a thread I’m actually writing and decides to publicly reprimand me out of nowhere. She doesn't even provide a reason for the warning. Which isn't surprising, because I wasn't off-topic, I wasn't being insulting, and I wasn't trolling... I didn't break a single rule. It's obvious she just personally disliked what I had to say.
In the following post, I point out (as several other users on Reddit have also noted) that I haven't violated any rules and that this warning is completely baseless. Her response? Just a dismissive "Yeah, yeah, whatever..." style of reply. So, I respond again, stating clearly that I haven't broken any rules and that she has no right to lecture me just because my opinion rubs her the wrong way.
But she refuses to back down. Another post along the lines of "Yeah, yeah, blah blah blah..." without a single actual argument. Naturally, I respond again to the post where I was called out for absolutely nothing. I believe that is my right. And so, we end up spiraling into an off-topic mess—entirely her own fault—until she threatens to delete my posts if I address her again. It's clear she just wants the last word so she can frame me as the culprit for the mess she created herself.
Of course, I have to respond to something like that, so I do. In my reply, I point out how hypocritical this behavior is, using double standards—threatening me with sanctions for a situation she caused and initiated herself. That post, predictably, is deleted instantly. I repost it because I refuse to let it go; this is a blatant abuse of moderator power, yet the post is wiped again, and I get hit with negative points and a ban, while her posts remain untouched.
Anyway, Brenda Cook4, bravo. Thanks for your "professional" handling of your moderator duties.
Now, some praise for my colleague swifttiger75.
The man handed me points for off-topic posting and spam, even though I wasn't guilty of either, but apparently, that doesn't matter. I sent him a private message asking for an explanation, and the result? He changed his mind and, instead of off-topic and spam, gave me points for trolling—since trolling carries more weight—even though I wasn't doing that either.
A few days later, I find myself unable to access the spirituality PDF. There was no special explanation in my inbox, no reasoning provided, just a note saying I had been removed from the PDF. When I asked for an explanation, I finally got one, and it was short and sweet: "You've been kicked out because we don't like you."
Thanks, and well done to you. Long live freedom of speech.
Rebecca Sullivan6:
Scientists claim they have confirmed the reality of near-death experiences (NASA).
A team from the University of Michigan completed a study by putting subjects through similar heart attack scenarios.
Near-death experiences are often accompanied by various sensations, such as out-of-body feelings, flying toward a light, hallucinations, and an overwhelming sense of euphoria.
Exactly. There is nothing supernatural about it—just plain old hallucinations.
According to recent research, a research team in Michigan has proven that the brain remains conscious after the heart stops beating, and it can even function at a higher level immediately following a heart attack.
What exactly does "at a higher level" mean?
The way people describe their near-death experiences often varies, but if you were to believe these scientists, then it isn't just a product of someone's imagination.
Of course it isn't a product of the imagination; these are real experiences. But there is absolutely nothing supernatural involved—no "afterlife," no "astral projection." It is, as I stated, just basic hallucinations.
Now, this case you brought up where every other word is Jesus looks to me like some group of fanatics performing propaganda for their faith.
That's basically how it is.
cosmicbadger32 said:Look, you gotta realize people change. Life isn't black and white; everything is shades of gray. I’ve seen this firsthand with someone in my own family. They spent basically their whole life making terrible mistakes—hurting people left and right. From the outside, looking at all the pain they caused, you'd think, "Yeah, this person deserves nothing but eternal damnation." But now, this person is elderly and nearing the end, and after one of our many arguments, they broke down crying and told me, "Please forgive me. You know better than anyone that nobody ever said a kind word to me growing up. You know I was raised by nothing but losers and drunks, with no father or mother to guide me." Then they added, and I mean literally these words: "Son, please, once I'm gone, just come to my grave. You don't need flowers or candles. Just come by, spit on my grave, and say, 'Old man, you were trash and you stayed trash.' Just show up once, and then you never have to come back."
So, don't be so quick to judge or tear people down. There are so many lonely, broken souls out there who never felt a shred of love or kindness. They never learned how to be good because they were never shown. There are plenty of people society has cast aside as total garbage, when maybe they just never had a fair shot at being better...
Actually digest what I've laid out here before you bother to comment.
neonbison38 said:Honestly? You can't really.
I mean, guilt and forgiveness—it's all kind of just stuff we make up in our own heads, I guess. Maybe you could try treating those "mistakes" like an eraser on a pencil—just wipe them away. Because, at the end of the day, what happened, happened. It's already part of the picture.
Ivy League. Are you still advising people to just ignore reality?
Michael Gonzalez77 said:Now you’re just proving my point. Thanks for that. Honestly, I doubt you even realize it, since you're just singing the same old tune you accuse everyone else of playing.
🙂
If you say so, I guess it must be the absolute truth.
Michael Gonzalez77 said:Don't go thinking you're important here. I don't have any beef with you or your posts, but let's get one thing straight: stick to the topic at hand instead of judging everyone else's character—especially based on your own biased perspective. That kind of attitude says everything about who you are and nothing about anyone else.
And if I were actually being harassed, you wouldn't be "clinging" to me like this. That part should be pretty obvious.
So—my apologies.
No, buddy, you aren't bothering me. I'm the one bothering you. And I am not going to back down until you finally show your true colors.
Michael Gonzalez77 said:You don't get it? Fine... look, maybe try to chill out and manage your own stress levels. It feels like I'm somehow responsible for you getting worked up or feeling that knot in your stomach, if that’s the vibe you’re giving off through your tone. Just give yourself a break for being annoyed at "some guy" on a forum, and stick to the actual threads—you're constantly drifting off-topic.
😁better?
There, now I've added a little bit of drama and suffering for you.
Don't worry, you aren't bothering me. Don't flatter yourself. Your intuition is consistently flawed, and apparently, that's nothing to you?
I will post wherever I please, much to your chagrin. I know you'd love for me to just disappear, but I'm not going anywhere anytime soon.
Michael Gonzalez77 said:Forgive yourself if I'm being too persistent, and if you've got stuff to say, just say it—let's finally move on to the actual topics at hand.
Try to make sense when you write, for heaven's sake.
Michael Gonzalez77 said:Look, you've done enough trolling. Just tell us what you actually think about this topic. Half the time you're just uninteresting and throwing out bait, which is why I don't bother responding. Sometimes you're funny enough to engage with, but usually, you're just a rigid, one-dimensional guy—that's why talking to you is such a chore. Still, I get why you feel the need to hang out here.
Don't worry, I forgive you for everything. 😉
How kind of you to offer forgiveness, even though there isn't much to forgive.
Don't make excuses; you know perfectly well why you stay silent.
You think you "understand" the impulse that brings me here? Please. You don't even understand yourself...
I don't care what anyone says, the whole thing is a mess. It’s absolute chaos. I remember back when I was working for a logistics firm in Chicago, dealing with similar nonsense—nothing ever works the way it's supposed to. You try to follow the rules, you try to do things by the book, and yet, here we are again. Just another example of total incompetence. It's frustrating, honestly. Unacceptable. kaže:
You have to forgive yourself for your own stupidity first; otherwise, it’s going to haunt you every single night.
You’re making this PDF way too difficult on yourself. Honestly, given how fragile your health is and how thin your patience has become lately, you really ought to be more careful with what you have left. Considering you live by that whole philosophy of "never forgiving yourself," it sounds like there's just no saving you.
I thought you were just ignoring me. Or is this just what happens when you’re backed into a corner and realize you have absolutely nothing to say?
How on earth are you supposed to know my medical history? Do you have X-ray vision or something? Or maybe you're just staring into some crystal ball to make these baseless claims?
Where on earth did you get the idea that my philosophy is about "refusing to forgive myself"? Do you even have a clue what that actually means?
A straw man.?