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What are the results of your spiritual journey? in Spirituality ·
Nicholas Gonzalez8 said:
Look, I’m telling you right now—if you think you can just wander through the woods behind your house without keeping a sharp eye out, you are asking for a world of hurt. I’m talking about poison ivy. It isn’t just some minor skin irritation that you can brush off like a mosquito bite; it’s a full-blown, itchy, red, blistering nightmare that will make you want to tear your own skin off if you aren't careful. It’s one of those things that seems so simple when people describe it—"leaves of three, let it be"—but then you actually go out there, maybe thinking you're being all rugged and outdoorsy, and suddenly you're looking at a patch of green that looks perfectly innocent. That’s the trap! It blends in perfectly. It hides in the shade, tucked away near the treeline or creeping up against a fence, just waiting for some unsuspecting hiker to brush past it. And don't even get me started on how persistent this stuff is. You think you washed your hands? Think again. If you brushed against a stem and didn't scrub every single inch of your skin with enough soap to sink a battleship, that oil—that urushiol stuff—is still there. It stays on your clothes, too. I once saw a guy spend an entire weekend itching because he thought he'd cleaned his hiking boots, only to realize the oils had soaked right into the fabric. He was miserable for a week. Total waste of time and energy. Seriously, treat it like a hazard. Treat it like you're walking through a field of rattlesnakes. Watch where you put your hands, watch what you're brushing against, and for heaven's sake, if you do touch it, don't go rubbing your eyes. Just... stay vigilant. It's not rocket science, but it'll ruin your whole week if you're lazy about it. kaže:
What I’m actually curious about is—and bear with me here—just how much sleep are you actually getting on a daily basis? 😲 😁

I usually clock about six hours. Honestly, I’ve never been much of a sleep lover—just never really felt the need for those long marathons—but lately, since I started hitting the sack early and getting up with the sun, I’ve been feeling worlds better. It's like my whole system finally clicked into place. 🙂

Look, I’m not here to hand out some magic roadmap or tell anyone exactly how to live their lives—that's just not my style. I’m just tossing my thoughts, my bits of knowledge, and everything I've picked up along the way out there into the wind, mostly just to show people that there are other ways to look at things. Whether someone actually takes what I say and runs with it, or just ignores me entirely? That’s on them. It’s their life, after all. And honestly, even if someone decides to take the long way around—you know, stumbling through every single mistake and wrong turn imaginable—it doesn't really matter. In the end, those very mistakes are often what nudge the soul toward finding the right path anyway. So, in a weird way, there isn't such a thing as a "wrong" direction. I’m just trying to help folks navigate whatever route they decide to take. Most people, if they're being real with themselves, just want to enjoy the ride and feel like they're actually getting somewhere.

Look, I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again—you can get things done through fear just as easily as you can through love. You can motivate yourself with anxiety, or you can push people around using intimidation, and sure, you might see results in the short term. But here’s the kicker—that approach isn't going to make you happy. It won't bring any real peace. It's just a hollow way to live. It’s a simple fact, really. You can find proof for this anywhere—whether you're digging through hard science, exploring spirituality, or just looking at the collective experience of everyone around you—including your own life. If you don't believe me, fine. Go ahead. Test these words yourself. See how it feels when you try to run your life on fear versus running it on something actually meaningful. The math always adds up the same way in the end.

Look, I’m telling you—rote memorization is a total waste of breath. It gets you nowhere. What actually works? Keeping an open mind and just... observing. But here’s the kicker: you have to observe without getting emotionally tangled up in what you're seeing. If you can watch things unfold without clinging to them like a kid with a new toy, you end up with way more options on the table. And honestly, that’s usually when it becomes a hell of a lot easier to actually figure out who you are.

I get where you're coming from—really, I do. But let’s be honest here: it isn't some fat priest's fault that people twist his words around. It’s not about him. It’s about that stubborn human tendency—that weird, ingrained ego thing we all have—where we decide right off the bat that something is either the absolute gospel truth or total garbage just because of who said it. Like, "Oh, he's a minister, so this must be sacred," or "He's just a guy, so this is worthless." It's ridiculous. In my book, you’ve got to look at every single idea on the table. Give it a fair shake. But—and this is the big part—don't go clinging to it like a life raft. You can examine an idea without letting it own you.

Look, that example you brought up? It isn't a lie. Not even close. The real issue—and this is what gets me worked up—is that most people never actually bother to learn how to pray or manifest the right way. They just go through the motions, half-heartedly throwing wishes at the ceiling, and then when nothing happens, they have the nerve to claim the whole thing is fake. It’s like someone trying to drive a manual transmission car without ever learning how to work the clutch—they’re going to stall out every single time and then blame the car. Sometimes, you see someone who actually gets results, sure, but usually, they're just following a gut feeling. They stumble onto the right frequency by accident, hitting the mark without actually understanding the mechanics behind why it worked. They’re basically lucky, not intentional. Real, conscious mastery—where you actually understand the "how" and the "why" and execute it with purpose—that’s something only a tiny handful of people actually take the time to master. Most people are just winging it and complaining about the results.

Look, there’s this endless flood of blatant lies being shoved down our throats every single day—it’s everywhere, just massive, coordinated misinformation campaigns designed to keep us spinning—but the real kicker? It’s the simple truths we ignore. We pass them right by because they feel too easy, too straightforward, and honestly, most people are just too lazy or too suspicious to actually sit down and get to know them. It feels like a trap, right? Like if something is that simple, there must be some catch, so we just stick to the complex nonsense instead.

Look, you’ve got two extremes here—it's like being stuck between a rock and a hard place. On one side, you have people who just blindly follow whatever the world throws at them, chasing every external trend or societal expectation like it's gospel. Then, on the flip side, you’ve got those folks who shut themselves off entirely, obsessing only over what’s happening inside their own heads, ignoring the rest of reality. It’s a bit much, honestly. Real spiritual growth? That isn't about picking a side. It's about finding that sweet spot right in the middle—that actual balance where the inner world and the outer world finally shake hands.

I hear you... you’re looking at people through the lens of their actions and how they actually feel—and honestly, that's probably the only way to get a real read on someone. It's the gold standard. But, just a word of caution here—don't go tossing aside the folks who don't lead with raw emotion or big gestures, but instead operate purely out of deep, intuitive understanding. There's a massive difference there. You know, the wisdom of truly enlightened people tends to be incredibly simple. In fact, sometimes it sounds almost too easy—it can even start to sound like those people who just spout mindless affirmations because the words happen to have a nice ring to them. Don't mistake simplicity for shallow fluff.

We're just talking here, and honestly, I prefer total honesty.

By nature, I'm a highly emotional person, though I spent years trying to balance that out by sharpening my logic. At one point, I actually felt completely numb because I was rationalizing everything to death—there was simply no room left for an actual emotional reaction to breathe. So, I had to relearn how to "consciously" let myself feel things, even when my brain was screaming that it didn't make sense. Nowadays, I use emotional experience to complement my logical understanding, but I don't let myself get tethered to either. In other words, they work for me; I don't work for them. They are tools I use, even if I feel them with my entire soul.

The issue most people have is that they don't accept their emotions—they try to fight them with their minds. That's where the suffering starts. Then you have the other group who rationalizes everything away, and they suffer because they've become hollow.

New Age stuff is a massive grab bag of everything—truths, lies, good approaches, bad ones. The core problem is that even when they promote bits of truth, they often explain them in a way that's incredibly shallow or unnecessarily convoluted.

Exactly. For most people, suffering doesn't start with the raw emotion itself, but with that mental commentary we stack on top of it. And obviously, those thoughts mess with our body chemistry instantly—the fear ramps up, and suddenly we're just stuck in this miserable state.

What specifically makes you feel like you're a worse person? Is it an attitude, certain thoughts, emotions, things you say, or stuff you do? Maybe you're following someone else's lead but it feels totally unnatural to who you really are. Seriously though, vent a bit more and give me some details, and I'll try to give you a more direct answer.

Why do you even bother trying to help people? I honestly don't get it. They’re going to go down whatever path they choose anyway—do you actually think they wouldn't figure it out without you?

Look, I get it—giving advice on a forum can make you feel like you've got some grand mission or a sense of importance. But honestly? You should probably wait until someone actually asks for your input first. If you’re just throwing unsolicited advice at people who didn't request it, you're basically just wasting your own energy—plus, you end up looking pretty pushy.

Nicholas Gonzalez8 said:
Look, I’m telling you right now—if you think you can just wander through the woods behind your house without keeping a sharp eye out, you are asking for a world of hurt. I’m talking about poison ivy. It isn’t just some minor skin irritation that you can brush off like a mosquito bite; it’s a full-blown, itchy, red, blistering nightmare that will make you want to tear your own skin off if you aren't careful. It’s one of those things that seems so simple when people describe it—"leaves of three, let it be"—but then you actually go out there, maybe thinking you're being all rugged and outdoorsy, and suddenly you're looking at a patch of green that looks perfectly innocent. That’s the trap! It blends in perfectly. It hides in the shade, tucked away near the treeline or creeping up against a fence, just waiting for some unsuspecting hiker to brush past it. And don't even get me started on how persistent this stuff is. You think you washed your hands? Think again. If you brushed against a stem and didn't scrub every single inch of your skin with enough soap to sink a battleship, that oil—that urushiol stuff—is still there. It stays on your clothes, too. I once saw a guy spend an entire weekend itching because he thought he'd cleaned his hiking boots, only to realize the oils had soaked right into the fabric. He was miserable for a week. Total waste of time and energy. Seriously, treat it like a hazard. Treat it like you're walking through a field of rattlesnakes. Watch where you put your hands, watch what you're brushing against, and for heaven's sake, if you do touch it, don't go rubbing your eyes. Just... stay vigilant. It's not rocket science, but it'll ruin your whole week if you're lazy about it. kaže:
What I’m actually curious about is—and bear with me here—just how much sleep are you actually getting on a daily basis? 😲 😁

I usually clock about six hours. Honestly, I’ve never been much of a sleep lover—just never really felt the need for those long marathons—but lately, since I started hitting the sack early and getting up with the sun, I’ve been feeling worlds better. It's like my whole system finally clicked into place. 🙂

Look, I’m not here to hand out some magic roadmap or tell anyone exactly how to live their lives—that's just not my style. I’m just tossing my thoughts, my bits of knowledge, and everything I've picked up along the way out there into the wind, mostly just to show people that there are other ways to look at things. Whether someone actually takes what I say and runs with it, or just ignores me entirely? That’s on them. It’s their life, after all. And honestly, even if someone decides to take the long way around—you know, stumbling through every single mistake and wrong turn imaginable—it doesn't really matter. In the end, those very mistakes are often what nudge the soul toward finding the right path anyway. So, in a weird way, there isn't such a thing as a "wrong" direction. I’m just trying to help folks navigate whatever route they decide to take. Most people, if they're being real with themselves, just want to enjoy the ride and feel like they're actually getting somewhere.

Look, I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again—you can get things done through fear just as easily as you can through love. You can motivate yourself with anxiety, or you can push people around using intimidation, and sure, you might see results in the short term. But here’s the kicker—that approach isn't going to make you happy. It won't bring any real peace. It's just a hollow way to live. It’s a simple fact, really. You can find proof for this anywhere—whether you're digging through hard science, exploring spirituality, or just looking at the collective experience of everyone around you—including your own life. If you don't believe me, fine. Go ahead. Test these words yourself. See how it feels when you try to run your life on fear versus running it on something actually meaningful. The math always adds up the same way in the end.

Look, I’m telling you—rote memorization is a total waste of breath. It gets you nowhere. What actually works? Keeping an open mind and just... observing. But here’s the kicker: you have to observe without getting emotionally tangled up in what you're seeing. If you can watch things unfold without clinging to them like a kid with a new toy, you end up with way more options on the table. And honestly, that’s usually when it becomes a hell of a lot easier to actually figure out who you are.

I get where you're coming from—really, I do. But let’s be honest here: it isn't some fat priest's fault that people twist his words around. It’s not about him. It’s about that stubborn human tendency—that weird, ingrained ego thing we all have—where we decide right off the bat that something is either the absolute gospel truth or total garbage just because of who said it. Like, "Oh, he's a minister, so this must be sacred," or "He's just a guy, so this is worthless." It's ridiculous. In my book, you’ve got to look at every single idea on the table. Give it a fair shake. But—and this is the big part—don't go clinging to it like a life raft. You can examine an idea without letting it own you.

Look, that example you brought up? It isn't a lie. Not even close. The real issue—and this is what gets me worked up—is that most people never actually bother to learn how to pray or manifest the right way. They just go through the motions, half-heartedly throwing wishes at the ceiling, and then when nothing happens, they have the nerve to claim the whole thing is fake. It’s like someone trying to drive a manual transmission car without ever learning how to work the clutch—they’re going to stall out every single time and then blame the car. Sometimes, you see someone who actually gets results, sure, but usually, they're just following a gut feeling. They stumble onto the right frequency by accident, hitting the mark without actually understanding the mechanics behind why it worked. They’re basically lucky, not intentional. Real, conscious mastery—where you actually understand the "how" and the "why" and execute it with purpose—that’s something only a tiny handful of people actually take the time to master. Most people are just winging it and complaining about the results.

Look, there’s this endless flood of blatant lies being shoved down our throats every single day—it’s everywhere, just massive, coordinated misinformation campaigns designed to keep us spinning—but the real kicker? It’s the simple truths we ignore. We pass them right by because they feel too easy, too straightforward, and honestly, most people are just too lazy or too suspicious to actually sit down and get to know them. It feels like a trap, right? Like if something is that simple, there must be some catch, so we just stick to the complex nonsense instead.

Look, you’ve got two extremes here—it's like being stuck between a rock and a hard place. On one side, you have people who just blindly follow whatever the world throws at them, chasing every external trend or societal expectation like it's gospel. Then, on the flip side, you’ve got those folks who shut themselves off entirely, obsessing only over what’s happening inside their own heads, ignoring the rest of reality. It’s a bit much, honestly. Real spiritual growth? That isn't about picking a side. It's about finding that sweet spot right in the middle—that actual balance where the inner world and the outer world finally shake hands.

I hear you... you’re looking at people through the lens of their actions and how they actually feel—and honestly, that's probably the only way to get a real read on someone. It's the gold standard. But, just a word of caution here—don't go tossing aside the folks who don't lead with raw emotion or big gestures, but instead operate purely out of deep, intuitive understanding. There's a massive difference there. You know, the wisdom of truly enlightened people tends to be incredibly simple. In fact, sometimes it sounds almost too easy—it can even start to sound like those people who just spout mindless affirmations because the words happen to have a nice ring to them. Don't mistake simplicity for shallow fluff.

We're just talking here, and honestly, I prefer total honesty.

By nature, I'm a highly emotional person, though I spent years trying to balance that out by sharpening my logic. At one point, I actually felt completely numb because I was rationalizing everything to death—there was simply no room left for an actual emotional reaction to breathe. So, I had to relearn how to "consciously" let myself feel things, even when my brain was screaming that it didn't make sense. Nowadays, I use emotional experience to complement my logical understanding, but I don't let myself get tethered to either. In other words, they work for me; I don't work for them. They are tools I use, even if I feel them with my entire soul.

The issue most people have is that they don't accept their emotions—they try to fight them with their minds. That's where the suffering starts. Then you have the other group who rationalizes everything away, and they suffer because they've become hollow.

New Age stuff is a massive grab bag of everything—truths, lies, good approaches, bad ones. The core problem is that even when they promote bits of truth, they often explain them in a way that's incredibly shallow or unnecessarily convoluted.

Exactly. For most people, suffering doesn't start with the raw emotion itself, but with that mental commentary we stack on top of it. And obviously, those thoughts mess with our body chemistry instantly—the fear ramps up, and suddenly we're just stuck in this miserable state.

What specifically makes you feel like you're a worse person? Is it an attitude, certain thoughts, emotions, things you say, or stuff you do? Maybe you're following someone else's lead but it feels totally unnatural to who you really are. Seriously though, vent a bit more and give me some details, and I'll try to give you a more direct answer.

Like I already said—when I feel something, I act on it. I don’t go around castrating my own soul—I let it run wild, like a wolf in the woods. And what kind of "happiness" are you even talking about? Seriously, I don't get it—we've known each other long enough that you should know better than to think you can tell me what makes me happy.

Look, I’ve lived enough life—driven by every impulse imaginable—to have felt just about everything there is to feel. I've hit the highs and the absolute lows. But today? Today I actually feel okay. I don't regret a single thing, and I certainly don't regret anyone. If I had to go back and do it all over again with this exact same personality, I would. So, thanks for worrying about my happiness or whatever, but honestly? You’d be much better off focusing on YOUR own life. Life is way too short to waste time trying to fix the happiness of some random stranger on an internet forum. 😉
What are the results of your spiritual journey? in Spirituality ·
Zachary Gonzalez8 said:Honestly, it doesn't even have to be about having a "deep" life. That’s actually the most beautiful part to witness. Just pure, natural wisdom. No mistakes, really. Every "mistake" is just another lesson in disguise.

I’d probably sign up to forget everything "spiritual" I’ve ever read 🙂 though, I suppose there’s another way to look at it—if you hadn't encountered all those things, maybe you wouldn't realize just how much you don't actually need them.

I’ve already tossed out the textbook stuff—all those theories that turned out to be totally useless in the real world. But along this journey, I’ve bumped into some incredible people who make me feel deeply connected and, honestly, incredibly free. To me, that’s the real win.

Spiritual friends are like a shot of pure medicine—deep, inspiring, and usually a hell of a lot of fun. They can make me laugh, tear me down, force me to think, and push me to be my best self. And they don't run for the hills when I'm at my worst, either—they've got this patience and trust that’s hard to find. I just hope I’ve been able to give that same energy back to them. 🙂
What are the results of your spiritual journey? in Spirituality ·
Anthony Cook8 said:You don't need to feel terror when standing by a window to keep yourself from jumping...
You don't need to feel fear of fire when you're standing near a fireplace to keep you from reaching into the flames...
And you don't need to walk down a street in a state of panic, terrified a car will hit you, just to be able to observe your surroundings and react in time...
If a car comes, and you see it, you move. It's not like we should be walking down the sidewalk playing a movie in our heads like, "Oh no, what if a car hits me?" or "What if this happens?"—which is exactly what people do needlessly in their relationships...

Often, I can't even identify the specific subconscious belief causing that physical knot in my stomach (you know, that "I *must* know" feeling). I can't pinpoint it because it's buried too deep, but it's not the knot itself that causes the trouble. It comes and goes; it dissolves when you stop feeding it attention or when you gain enough insight to let it go. The real problem stems from the secondary thought—that extra layer of narrative we add onto the physical sensation of grief or pain...
The thought that what's happening is catastrophic, that it will last forever, or that something terrible is coming. That's when the suffering truly begins. A moment that should have been fleeting turns into something that drags on and on... until we finally decide we've had enough, until we let go, or until we construct a situation that finally forces us to release it.

Wait, if everything in this world is supposedly perfect, why is that even a problem? If perfection actually exists, then there shouldn't be any issues at all—no matter what kind of nonsense we decide to get ourselves into. 🙂
What are the results of your spiritual journey? in Spirituality ·
Daniel Castillo11 said:@Tiger Lily

You hit the nail on the head regarding our primal, instinctive nature. At the end of the day, we belong to the primate genus Homo sapiens—essentially self-aware animals navigating a complex world.

When it comes to spirituality, I’ve always felt the core concept should involve integrating all the different facets of our personality and our society. We’re talking about weaving together empathy, rationality, wisdom, and those other virtues, whether they remain mere ideals or actually manifest in our daily lives.

The problem I see with most spiritual teachings is that they tend to lean toward either hating certain parts of our nature or over-idealizing vague notions like "human nature" or "self-awareness." It’s all very fuzzy. Specifically, they ignore the cognitive, or mental, aspect of being human, which is something we haven't truly mastered or learned to self-regulate yet. Evolution shaped us this way, and our social structures have reinforced it. Our best bet isn't chasing ghosts; it’s simply accepting our inherent limitations and working hard to optimize our mental, emotional, and ethical hygiene. To do that effectively, we need to understand our actual boundaries and capabilities. We are a long way from achieving some grand "enlightenment" or any of those other lofty fantasies.

If you strip away all fear and neurosis, you aren't left with a saint; you're just looking at a psychopath or someone in a vegetative state. Everything else that draws breath survives through stress. Stress is the fundamental mechanism that keeps the gears of the universe turning.

I never bought into the whole "enlightenment" thing myself. Honestly, I felt so much more refreshed once I started forgetting all the "spiritual" junk I’d heard or read in various circles. Once I cleared out that sludge and stopped listening to those fake "spiritual gurus," I finally felt free. 🙂)

Nowadays, I'm actually fascinated by people who seem to have found some kind of balance and peace—people who just radiate clarity and empathy without ever having practiced a single "spiritual technique." Let's just say they have a natural knack for introspection and a massive amount of life experience. But look, not every old person becomes wise; some just go completely off the deep end despite everything they've lived through. So there aren't any clear rules here, other than sticking to what actually works—mental and emotional hygiene, period. Thinking things through, learning from mistakes, taking small daily steps... that's way more useful than any bombastic illusion. And maybe—I don't know—spending time in nature or with animals. We should probably learn to love and respect the "animal" side of ourselves; that grounding helps immensely when your mind starts drifting off into excessive philosophy.🙂
What are the results of your spiritual journey? in Spirituality ·
Anthony Cook8 said:Why not act from a place of courage instead of fear?

When someone is operating out of pure fear, you can see it in their eyes—there’s this watery, unsettled look. Their mind starts racing, piling up worries on top of worries until they're trapped in a cycle of even deeper anxiety.

But the moment they actually start to relax, everything changes. They finally gain the clarity needed to see the big picture and discover solutions that were completely invisible while they were stuck in that narrow, fearful mindset.

So what’s your move when you get scared? You just rationalize the emotion away as "tunnel vision," decide you're done being afraid, and suddenly—poof—you see the big picture??

In reality, all you did was rationalize an emotion. By refusing to let it play out past that clutter of thoughts, you just shoved it deeper into your subconscious, down into that primal, animalistic side.

Look, it's not just some thought; there’s a much deeper, more purposeful emotion sitting right under the surface.

Fear is a built-in evolutionary mechanism—it's how humans survive predators and stay aware of danger and our own vulnerabilities. Suppressing that awareness is basically lying to yourself and working against your own nature. It can even lead to serious personality disorders. Take psychopaths, for example—they don't feel fear like the rest of us. They might be geniuses at mental manipulation, sure, but that definitely doesn't make them enlightened.

I’ve also seen older folks who seem fearless, but they explained it differently: they’ve already lived through every nightmare imaginable. Once they realized they survived it all, the fear just evaporated. That’s actual wisdom earned through experience, and I respect that. But these trendy New Age recipes? They don't hold water for me—especially when they take on this moralizing, preachy tone about how you "should" or "shouldn't" feel things.

Moralizing isn't the same thing as facing something to gain understanding. Moralizing carries this pressure to suppress things because they're "bad," and wherever there's pressure, there's no true self-discovery.

It’s pretty paradoxical—people criticize a cluttered mind, yet that very clutter is what suppresses the natural parts of a human being. It pushes down the emotions and instincts we've had for thousands of years, perfectly in tune with our biology. To me, that isn't "wise" and it isn't "spiritual." I see spirituality as integration, not castration.
What are the results of your spiritual journey? in Spirituality ·
Nicholas Gonzalez8 said:I think you misunderstood me. I actually support and love the kind of grit and persistence you're talking about. But when I say "struggle," I'm primarily talking about one's attitude toward life, toward oneself, and toward others. Like a wind that sweeps everything away—it doesn't rage or throw insults before or during the process; it simply *is*, and it does what it does.

Take two people born into poverty in some rough part of the States who want to change their circumstances. Both work hard and eventually succeed. But there's a fundamental difference. The first person curses their poverty; they blame Bog, their family, and life itself for what they went through. They obsess over every single step of their progress, and once they finally make it, they live in constant fear of losing it all, still cursing the years they "wasted" being poor. That kind of struggle is useless—it just poisons your happiness and your health.

The second person can accept that poverty was just a part of their reality, while still deciding to live differently. They will work to achieve their goals and overcome hurdles, but they won't curse the situation or point fingers at anyone else. And when they succeed, they won't be paralyzed by the fear of loss; they'll actually enjoy the here and now. They won't look back at those years of struggling with resentment; they'll accept them and even feel grateful, because those exact hardships were what sparked the decision to learn and grow, which is what made their current life possible.

Inner strength exists in all of us, and rage isn't the only way—nor is it the best way—to express it. You can be just as successful acting out of love as you can out of fear, but the way you experience life will be entirely different—you'll feel fundamentally different throughout the whole process.

Look, Zack, I get where you're coming from with your theories—really, I do—but there’s something kind of funny about how you approach total strangers. You jump in with this preacher-like, high-and-mighty attitude without having any clue who you’re actually talking to. You haven't walked a mile in their shoes, yet you're out here handing out these cookie-cutter solutions like "act out of love instead of fear." It’s old news, man. It’s basically just a repackaged version of Gerald G. Jampolsky’s "Love Instead of Fear" concept that’s been copied and pasted into a thousand mediocre variations since forever. 🙂

Look, I’m just trying to say that when people dive into spirituality, they really ought to stop throwing around trendy buzzwords from whatever's currently "in" just because it sounds deep. It’s better to actually find your own center—that "I AM" state—through actual experience. You need to feel yourself, process your own emotions, and untangle the mess in your own head first. That’s the only way you’ll sound authentic and actually understand other people without relying on those shallow, cookie-cutter clichés found in spiritual pop-culture manuals. Sure, you can read those books—fine—but you have to actually process them with some critical thinking. And honestly? You can't develop that kind of mindset unless you have a sharp enough mind to stop swallowing every colorful lie pop culture shoves down your throat.

Honestly? I have zero clue what the solution should be for people living in extreme poverty. There are just way too many of them—it’s not a monolith. You’ve got all sorts of personalities in that mix, and everyone ended up there for completely different reasons. Some have different mental capacities, others have different spiritual potential... it’s all over the place. So, walking up to that massive crowd of hungry, disenfranchised people and offering them some breezy, superficial little song? Yeah, that's a joke.

Everything's gonna be fine—it’s all handled by Bog—because the universe is perfect. You just have to stop acting out of fear and start acting out of love instead. Period.

Honestly, I find the whole thing pretty useless—if not downright insulting. It’s no different than some bloated preacher living it up in a massive estate, preaching platitudes to the masses and telling them all they just need to "knock and the door will open." To me, there’s zero difference between the "modern" version and the old-school spiritual opium used to keep people quiet. It’s the same tired logic—telling people that if they’re struggling or stuck in poverty, it’s just their "karma," so they shouldn't bother complaining. It's all just a way to keep people passive.

It’s all just perfect indoctrination—designed to breed a generation of lazy idiots who are completely useless to society. They just spend their lives lulling themselves and everyone else into a stupor with these endless mantras. You can actually feel it—there's no actual human being behind the words. It’s just some hollow, soulless zombie pretending they’re "spiritual."

Look, I love running into the exact opposite of that—people who actually radiate this raw, vibrant energy. And I don't mean just "vibes"—I mean people who haven't traded their intelligence, wisdom, or life-earned empathy for some cheap substitute. When I encounter someone like that, I know they're heading in the right direction—regardless of what specific religion or spiritual path they follow. They haven't drowned themselves in that sea of sugary, cliché affirmations people use to blur the sharp edges of reality.

Look, don't go feeling slighted now—seriously. I can't exactly tell you what's actually on my mind if I have to walk on eggshells around your ego constantly. This isn't some damn daycare center—there’s really no need to get all huffy just because we're being honest with each other. 🙂
What are the results of your spiritual journey? in Spirituality ·
Anthony Cook8 said:You asked what it means to let go of old beliefs, and I tried to show you through an example, but you just brushed it off...
You dismissed me just as quickly as you dismissed Zak, claiming he's too young to know anything—blah, blah, blah—simply because you don't understand his perspective. The moment you start becoming aware of your own reactions and observing your behavior, that's when the letting go truly begins...
If you're here and pouring over all those books, it's obvious you're searching for something...
Your journey is yours alone. There's no need for anyone else to walk the same path you did, nor will anyone else share your specific experiences. We are all different...

Look, honey—you can't pin your responsibilities on me just because you're feeling less important or less worthy. That’s your own internal struggle, and frankly, it isn't my problem or my responsibility to fix.

All I hear are these tedious "spiritual" clichés that don't actually sound like they're coming from a real human being with actual life experience. But let's be clear: I never said you were less important, and I never said you were lacking anything. I have zero interest in arguing with you, either. You're the one who approached me first, and now you're throwing a fit because I gave you my honest opinion???

Seriously... all that talk about Manifesting and New Age prophecies seems pretty useless if you aren't even listening to a word I say.
What are the results of your spiritual journey? in Spirituality ·
Anthony Cook8 said:Just because I can see your struggle and your approach doesn't mean I feel targeted; I’m simply stating what I've observed.
We can choose to learn from everything, or we can choose not to. The choice is always ours...

You’re feeling attacked because of your own projection—it has nothing to do with me. And thanks to some damn "law of attraction" nonsense, you've latched onto my post, so why don't you try actually doing what you suggested to me:

"We can either learn from everything or we don't have to... the choice is always ours."

You haven't been attacked, seriously. When I actually go on the attack, it looks way, way worse. 🙂
What are the results of your spiritual journey? in Spirituality ·
Anthony Cook8 said:It sounds like I've committed a felony or something...

But what I wrote above is simply true: you cannot grasp literature like Transurfing or the Law of Attraction through logic alone. That isn't an opinion; it's a fact. And as for the situation with your neighbor, of course you can help her...

I'm just writing whatever comes to mind... just like you are.

To "let go of a belief" might mean, for instance, noticing when someone is attacking me for no reason at all... that could be a good starting point.

A strong spirit doesn't feel attacked just because someone disagrees with one of their beliefs or stances. Only a tiny little ego—which we all have, no matter how "enlightened" we think we are—is that sensitive. Personally, I don't feel the need to bury my head in the sand of "spirituality" to avoid those basic human flaws. Instead, I always ask, "Okay, so what can we actually do about this?" Because if we have an issue, it should serve a purpose, right?? I end up building up energy when I spontaneously use the tools nature gave me, whereas reading stuff like Transurfing just makes me roll my eyes. But please—don't go feeling like I killed your cat again. Even if you did, cats have nine lives; I wouldn't come after you for it.😁
What are the results of your spiritual journey? in Spirituality ·
Anthony Cook8 said:Why are you automatically attacking me?

Where exactly are you seeing that? I just said you weren't being clear about those "beliefs one needs to let go of" and that I can't feel what you're talking about.

But honestly—I've read those exact phrases a million times already. All that talk about splits between mind and spirit, intellect versus spirituality, letting go of beliefs, and so on. My irritation isn't about who you are—it's about those horrific, "modern" spiritual clichés used like some kind of psychological sedative. They don't actually mean anything.

The mind processes experience—it has a function, just like an intestine does. It’s neither better nor worse than any other organ. To me, the whole point of spirituality isn't stripping away something "lower" just to achieve something "higher." It's about synergy. It's about trying to connect the incompatible—adding new shapes, colors, problems, and solutions to the puzzle, while keeping it grounded in actual feeling. For crying out loud—I can't walk up to my neighbor digging through a dumpster and try to sell her some story about how everything is fine and her mind is just playing tricks on her. She'd think I was a total freak. If I can't genuinely empathize with someone, I'd rather stay away and not drone on with empty platitudes. It's better for everyone involved.

Hope you get where I'm coming from. 🙂
What are the results of your spiritual journey? in Spirituality ·
Anthony Cook8 said:When spirituality escapes the grasp of the mind, you realize you simply can't think your way toward a solution. You can't just read about it and "get" it through sheer intellect. In this realm, logic doesn't follow the rules—two plus two doesn't equal four. Honestly, the intellect becomes more of an obstacle than a tool. The tighter we cling to our logic, the harder it is to let go of the convictions we hold dear, especially when the whole world seems to be screaming evidence at us to prove we're right.

Honestly, I have no clue what you're even talking about. Look, I can understand all kinds of people who have that certain "presence"—you know, when someone vibrates with emotion, humor, or just pure energy—but with you, there's no vibration. I just see a string of buzzwords: mind - intellect - spirituality, and so on. 🤷

The issue isn't whether the mind or intellect is grasping something; it's that the heart feels nothing, the solar plexus feels even less, and my root chakra gets bored whenever I run into "spiritual types" tossing around phrases without any actual lived experience behind them.

For instance, what does "letting go of the beliefs we hold onto" actually mean to you? Let go of them where? What are we holding them with? Who is doing the holding—is it the mind, the intellect, logic, me, you, or Quincy, Mark, etc.? If you could just clarify these concepts for yourself first, maybe then I'd actually get what you're saying.

Let's be clear: life is fine just the way it is. I have one single life, and I am one single version of myself. I've evolved from being a militant atheist to a pretty chill agnostic once I realized that believers can't objectively prove God exists, but neither can I prove He doesn't—so, what?

I eventually simplified it like this: if God doesn't exist, great, I'll keep living just like I have been. But if He *does* exist and created me in His image, then screw it—if I'm a mess, then He's a mess too for making me this way. Why should I bother stressing over stripping away my mind, my intellect, my logic, my ego, or my sex life? Either way, I keep living my life. Once I simplified things that much, everything started moving smoothly—I guess that's what they call a "spiritual path." 😁
What are the results of your spiritual journey? in Spirituality ·
Nicholas Gonzalez8 said:Look, life is what it is. It's full of massive highs and devastating lows. But honestly, no matter how much you struggle, complain, worry, or point fingers at the same old problems, it doesn't change a damn thing. In fact, it makes things worse—it just drags in more baggage like negative emotions, mental clutter, ruined health, and getting so bogged down in nonsense that you miss actual opportunities.

Step one is just accepting the situation for what it is. It’s happening right now, whether you like it or not. By refusing to accept it—by hunting for a scapegoat or wallowing in regret—you’re just distancing yourself from who you are and from any actual solution. Most people think stress is just a normal reaction to hard times, but let's be real: it's just a bad habit that's become baked into our society.

Step two is to pause, take a cold, hard look at the reality of the situation and what tools you have, make a call, and then do the absolute best you can with what you know.

Step three is letting go of the result. Seriously. You did what you could, and you couldn't have done more than that. And then the whole cycle starts over—acceptance, assessment, decision-making.

Honestly, if more people actually worked on building better perspectives—if they stopped fighting reality and dropped the illusions—they'd move faster, act smarter, and actually succeed. They'd be happier simply because they know who they are and are okay with whatever happens next.

If I hadn't spent my life fighting, I’d probably be dead by now—and I definitely wouldn't have achieved a single thing I set out to do.

You’re probably pretty young—life hasn't really kicked you in the teeth with massive problems yet. But let me tell you, once that happens, all that colorful "spiritual" nonsense goes right out the window, leaving nothing but raw survival instinct. Which, honestly? That’s a good thing. Instinct is bloody and real. It forces you to push through, claw your way forward, clear obstacles, and move mountains. You fall, you get back up, and then you get that sweet, visceral feeling in an exhausted body when you realize you actually broke through or won something. No amount of philosophizing can match that flavor—none of those spiritual concepts mean squat if they aren't soaked in actual, lived experience.

But even the toughest people with the strongest will can snap under enough weight. You can fall into a black hole suddenly, or just sink day by day through a pile of life's bullshit. There is absolutely nothing romantic or "enlightened" about that. Suffering can be so brutal it literally tears at your soul. And even then, you still have to fight—maybe even harder—just to pull yourself together and stand back up. Those are the edge cases where I haven't found answers in any trendy spiritual fad—Law of Attraction, manifestation, chanting, visualization, *The Celestine Prophecy*, or whatever other garbage. The only thing that helped was gritting my teeth and using pure willpower to fight through the crap whenever it showed up. I even cursed God and every saint in heaven just to fuel my own rage, and somehow, that worked. If I had just sat there meditating and philosophizing, everything would have gone straight to hell.🙂

Humans evolved because we fought against harsh nature, greedy predators, and struggled to find food and shelter. We survived slavery, disease, and poverty. We are here today because our ancestors were gritty; they fought for themselves and their kids just to survive, to organize, and through sheer struggle, build something for themselves—both materially and spiritually. I don't see anything wrong with that. I'm not talking about some corrupt corporate CEOs trying to grab every cent; I'm talking about decent people who overcame material obstacles and shaped much of the good stuff in this world.

Nowadays, parents shove kids in front of computers while they're still in preschool, handing them games and smartphones just so they won't bother the checked-out, apathetic parents. The result? We get these "metrosexual" generations—bloodless, disconnected from reality. And that's exactly what modern spirituality has become: consumerist, instant junk designed to numb the masses, instead of a powerful, fresh wind that blows everything in its path. 🙂
The Waiting Game in Psychology ·
frozenangler9 said:Does this ever mess with your head?


Yeah, absolutely. Not feeling it right now, but I’m trying to tap back into that sensation... when things are uncertain, it’s like there’s a mental block—either your brain is flat-out refusing to see the truth because you're terrified of what it means, or you're paralyzed by a total lack of confidence, or maybe something just *needs* to stay buried until the timing is actually right.

Elvis Presley:
Why does waiting for something totally ordinary sometimes feel like such an uphill battle?
Honestly, sometimes all it takes is asking the right question to kill the uncertainty. But look—rushing in isn't always the move. Waiting serves a purpose, too—it lets things simmer and helps you grow. Maybe you should use that downtime to actually dig in and figure out what's realistic and what’s just wishful thinking.

Maybe be a little more specific with the question. Sometimes the wait is brutal because you’re already bracing for bad news—in those moments, the uncertainty is really just about building up the guts to face whatever reality is coming your way.
Spiritual practices in Spirituality ·
goldeneagle2: Since we're talking about spiritual practice—what exactly does everyone consider the "core" daily practices within Magica? How does a student pick them? Is there an actual system in place, or is it just a free-for-all where people grab whatever technique feels right? [/B]

Hey, goldeneagle2. 🙂

I’ve actually spent a lot of time reading your posts over on the Origin forum—really great stuff, learned a ton from you. You might even remember me; I used to go by '' Initiator '' back then. 🙂

Anyway, if you ever have a spare minute, drop by my forum too.

👋