Posts by George Wood2

Anthony Perez9 said:👍

I don't see him actually claiming to be enlightened or anything.

He never claims that about himself, nor does he hint at it. I was just being sarcastic. 😉
Doesn't mean he hasn't tapped into something worth learning from, though.

My gut tells me there's no ego-tripping or spiritual ego stuff here.
The guy is straightforward. 🙂
And he's actually quite "positive" with that whole "full bag of everything and staying detached" vibe.
Total acceptance without any of the usual baggage. Or maybe not. 🙂

I am absolutely certain that even the most transient homeless individuals could see through this—regardless of how powerful the emperors, corrupt bureaucrats, or high-ranking officials might be.
What, would that individual or someone like him have to do now? Perhaps achieve levitation?

To guy seems alright to me. He’s refreshingly unpretentious—simple, straightforward, and he doesn't feel the need to clutter his thoughts with complex jargon or clever wordplay just to sound important. I don't "see" him making any grand claims about being enlightened or anything of the sort.
I don't sense any ego-driven posturing or that typical "spiritual ego" trap.
The man is just simple. 🙂
In fact, there’s a genuine positivity to his approach regarding being "full of everything and remaining undivided by it."
It is a profound state of acceptance without anyone actually performing the act of accepting. Or perhaps they can. 🙂.

Drew Moore5 said:I just remembered what I was thinking of, but it’s too late now.

🙂 Well, you certainly are a unique character.
He is always lagging behind when it comes to interpreting current events. It stands to reason, given that his slowest natural "flaw." 😉

Gregory Jackson said:Maybe, maybe... honestly, that chapter was closed for me a long time ago. It was still wide open back when I was just a teenager, though. Everyone picks their own path, and hey, I respect that. All paths eventually lead to God, 🙂 even atheists find Him in the end. And angels too, 😉

Well, Steiner helped your growth in this life more because you actually studied him and took his ideas to heart, whereas you didn't do that with religious leaders. That makes sense. Use whatever you feel helps you grow. I didn't just stumble straight into Jesus and Buddha either.

There are simpler ways of living to follow. For example, something like unnamed—the main guide is just: good thoughts, good words, good deeds. A person progresses way faster that way than through, I don't know, some random meditations or astral projections.

Like Meher Baba used to say:
"No amount of prayer or meditation can do what helping others can do".

Just keep going, maybe one day you'll discover the pure words of the avatars. As for me, I'll keep praying to the king of the castle, not the servants.🙂

👍
You’ve actually piqued my interest enough to look into that unnamed faith.
Even the Dalai Lama once made a similar point, suggesting that his religion is quite simply kindness.

Drew Moore5 said:A long time ago, on some old internet message board, there was this guy talking about having a similar sensation out in a field somewhere, claiming he felt this and that.
Fast forward twenty years, and once he’s aged a bit, he’ll probably still be sitting there, obsessing over the same thing, stuck in the exact same spot he started in. He won't have moved an inch.

When it comes to spirituality, you need to be a hundred times more skeptical than you would be about anything else. Anyway, congrats, I guess—though I'm not entirely sure what I'm congratulating you for.

I agree.
🙂 Thanks, but there really isn't anything to thank me for.

Sandra Murphy33 said:Your Ego core (Steiner) shifted away from your physical body along with the etheric and astral layers (though you remained present as an observer...), but it likely snapped back, pulled by that famous silver cord that "links" and holds the various bodily levels together. 🙂

I have always had memories of having my tonsils removed when I was four years old. To me, it was perfectly normal to remember the surgical mask, the scalpels, the gloved hands, and so on—until I grew up and learned that, theoretically, you aren't supposed to remember anything that happens while under anesthesia.

1. My memory of it is as sharp as if it happened today. That "displaced body" functions much like an eye, though it lacks the brain's capacity for deduction.
That "displaced" state perceives the physical body, matter, birth, the intervals between, and the death of the body; just as it does with all other mental theories regarding knowledge.

2.
🙂 "Consciousness" is perpetually active. Even if what it perceives is merely an illusion.

Drew Moore5 said:That's either a consequence of improper exercises you're doing, a habit from this life, a leftover from a past life, or something else entirely.

The body doesn't move; rather, consciousness changes. We all have a built-in mechanism for when this happens, which is that we automatically withdraw from it because it's such an unusual experience, unlike anything we normally encounter.

There's a danger lurking in the near future here: that everyone will "have" their own version of spirituality that they feel satisfied with. For you, it might be something significant that left a mark, but in reality, it isn't anything special. The potential danger is that it could lead you down the wrong path.

Remember, evil is also spiritual; it has a spiritual origin. The nature of good and evil is not a trivial matter at all.

I know nothing of certainty myself. With you, anything is possible... 😉...ugh, I hear you. But these are all just stories, much like my own.

That experience—it all happened spontaneously. Out of thin air. There was no mental effort, no guided visualization, no precognition... none of that. You are taking yourself far too seriously.

These explorations into unusual "out-of-body" consciousness phenomena are quite intriguing. Perhaps someone here might possess insight regarding the process of separating from one's physical form while in a state of full wakefulness, with eyes wide open. It felt almost like a mere overture to everything that followed.

To provide context, thirteen years ago, I was sitting outdoors in nature, simply waiting for the workday to conclude. About half an hour prior, I experienced a peculiar sensation—a strange feeling that something was about to occur.
I wasn't dwelling on any specific thoughts; I was merely relaxing and observing the landscape and the distant islands from a pine-covered clearing.
Suddenly, I felt myself slowly sliding out of my physical body toward the right side. I reached a point where I was halfway out. It was a completely conscious "slipping" away from the physical vessel, which remained entirely static.
The "entity" that emerged from the physical body was translucent, ethereal, and perhaps the most weightless sensation I have ever experienced through any form of consciousness. It was akin to direct perception without the need to reflect upon what was being observed. Pure consciousness, nothing more.

After several minutes, a progressively stronger pulling force began to act upon the physical part of my body, dragging me back toward my previous "normal" state. It was as if the physical body alone cannot sustain itself for long without what we might call a carrier, and without this "consciousness" of the physical form, the body cannot truly be conscious. Perhaps the body would simply become a zombie. But what would happen to a conscious body?
This persisted well into the evening, characterized by this incessant tugging as the body sought to pull my conscious self—which is essentially who I am—back into the integrated, default setting of a complete human being. It was a surreal experience to walk and drive my car home 🤣 feeling separated. Someone would undoubtedly describe it as being distracted. 😉

I do not consume any intoxicants, nor do I use any drugs. 🤣
From a psychological or psychiatric standpoint, this experience caused no harm to my mind or body, aside from providing a profound perception and a different perspective when viewing life outside of man's material and intellectual planes.

Does anyone happen to have information regarding a similar experience?

coastalfalcon61 said:I suppose there’s a reason why I edit certain dialogues. Spirituality is such a vast field, and I don't think it should ever be narrowed down to just one single approach, teaching, or specific goal. To be honest, I sometimes notice a bit of an irritating streak in the way you express yourself and approach things—and please don't take this the wrong way—that feels somewhere between mocking others and acting like you have all the answers from some high horse. I guess I just don't want to risk your style or your perspective killing anyone's desire to join in on a discussion, especially other people here who are interested in spirituality but might be looking at it through different lenses or traditions. I wouldn't want every conversation to turn into a contest of wits or a way to shut people down instead of being constructive and actually building something together.
If someone doesn't understand something, I feel like—well, within this forum environment, since real life is a different story entirely—it’s better to either explain it kindly or just stay quiet... using riddles, asking leading questions meant to highlight how someone else is wrong, or using broken, disjointed sentences that only make sense to the person writing them, isn't really helpful. It just seems to cause more misunderstanding and maybe even a bit of resentment.

Mr. Mr. Perfect, your notions of "constructiveness" and "creation" belong to the realm of mundane, everyday existence. We navigate this world with the body and mind we were granted, much like our DNA dictates our physical reality. There is a glaring contradiction in your logic: you attempt to exert unnecessary, pedantic control through modeling and moderation. What exactly is your endgame here? Are you seeking some illusion of authority? For what purpose?
You are overthinking this.

Paul Rogers94 said:I wouldn't say they're just copying and following; there's actual consistency there. It's not like a blind chicken stumbling onto a grain of corn every once in a while—there is a logic to what is being said. They don't contradict themselves without reason, which wouldn't be possible without some foundation of true understanding. You can't fake that.

I don't know about quoting, but here are just a few things that meet resistance despite actually being expressions of deeper insight.

That's how the biker puts it; and there are plenty more wise and profound thoughts:

'stilling the mind allows for direct realization and insight'

'what requires the mind isn't spirituality, but rather exactly what needs to be cast aside'

'I've already written somewhere that I have discarded my beliefs several times—once my faith, and a few times the knowledge I identified with. And I would have no problem discarding my current knowledge again...'

🙏

Would you also be able to discard your current beliefs, knowledge, and practices just as easily if there was any truth to them?

And as you clearly know, reasoning is not the path to realization. Isn't that in itself a rare and respectable thing? Or perhaps the act of casting off current knowledge and beliefs is a serious leap toward realization.

Honestly, it gladdens me when someone truly possesses that kind of understanding. 🙂

That sort of genuine insight usually meets massive resistance from those who simply don't get it.

That doesn't mean it shouldn't be put to the test.

The difference is that you, quite rightly, have no desire to engage in an utterly senseless debate with an irrational mind—so you come across like some enlightened autistic. Meanwhile, the biker has a neurotic syndrome or maybe just a "professional deformity"—perhaps some vestige of a certain mental control practice where one stays composed while debating every idiot, even though it's a suicide mission.

Long live the trash. 🤣

Free shrink analysis.

A very subtle analysis indeed.
However, this question of yours is quite crucial to me: “would I also discard my current beliefs, knowledge, and practices just as easily, provided there was any merit to them?”
There is nothing to discard, even if you possess all of it, practice it, believe in it, and think through it systematically, logically, or academically. One is simply beyond all of that. Thoughts, feelings, various types of knowledge, and all that nonsense—none of it is the problem.
What about "mind control" or those programmed spiritual instructions and processes? That is a total illusion. Those are merely mental delusions—original sin, if you will, stripped of its religious connotation.

Carol Ramos2 said:So we're back to the mind again? 🤔

Give me a break. Yours! 🤣

Carol Ramos2 said:Great. 😬
Maybe you guys are just some fog or a mirage. 😬😉

This remains a question of the mind and the body—the psyche, if you will. Not the soul.

Carol Ramos2 said:Just feelings? 🍿

Even he wouldn't agree. It is nothing more than an abstract concept. For God's sake.

Carol Ramos2 said:You mean like mind and body just turn into pure sensation? Like we cease to exist and there's just a feeling doing the feeling? 🍿

A sensation does not feel. It simply Is. 😊

Carol Ramos2 said:It's not about logic. You just feel it. 😉

Or rather, it simply is. 🙂
There is no "me" in that equation.

Paul Rogers94 said:What matters even less is what you think of yourself.

Precisely.

Paul Rogers94 said:Sometimes you really do sound like a little devious devil 🙂

It seems that when things get spiritually heavy, people tend to retreat into cowardice and self-deception. 😬

Paul Rogers94 said:I wouldn't say they're just copying and following; there's actual consistency there. It's not like a blind chicken stumbling onto a grain of corn every once in a while—there is a logic to what is being said. They don't contradict themselves without reason, which wouldn't be possible without some foundation of true understanding. You can't fake that.

I don't know about quoting, but here are just a few things that meet resistance despite actually being expressions of deeper insight.

That's how the biker puts it; and there are plenty more wise and profound thoughts:

'stilling the mind allows for direct realization and insight'

'what requires the mind isn't spirituality, but rather exactly what needs to be cast aside'

'I've already written somewhere that I have discarded my beliefs several times—once my faith, and a few times the knowledge I identified with. And I would have no problem discarding my current knowledge again...'

🙏

Would you also be able to discard your current beliefs, knowledge, and practices just as easily if there was any truth to them?

And as you clearly know, reasoning is not the path to realization. Isn't that in itself a rare and respectable thing? Or perhaps the act of casting off current knowledge and beliefs is a serious leap toward realization.

Honestly, it gladdens me when someone truly possesses that kind of understanding. 🙂

That sort of genuine insight usually meets massive resistance from those who simply don't get it.

That doesn't mean it shouldn't be put to the test.

The difference is that you, quite rightly, have no desire to engage in an utterly senseless debate with an irrational mind—so you come across like some enlightened autistic. Meanwhile, the biker has a neurotic syndrome or maybe just a "professional deformity"—perhaps some vestige of a certain mental control practice where one stays composed while debating every idiot, even though it's a suicide mission.

Long live the trash. 🤣

Free shrink analysis.

It is. 👍 Losing all your knowledge is beautiful. At least, initially.

Prometheus observed this correctly.

It doesn't matter what others think of you.

Charles Wood73 said:He’s clearly a bit insecure, so he tries too hard to project this sense of gravity that honestly ends up being hilarious. Still, you have to admit, the guy has talent.

Oh, absolutely. :spiritual_vibe: Total nonsense. 🤣
He's so obsessed with maintaining this "spiritual guru" persona that he refuses to challenge his own narrow little version of 'gnosis.' He just keeps cutting everything short to protect his ego... and in doing so, he loses all authenticity. Absolute amateurs.

Paul Rogers94 said:It’s pure concentrate 🤣

But it doesn't matter when everyone else is still stuck on outdated, romanticized Theosophical teachings—like attracts like, after all—clinging to those shallow New Age nonsense trends. That is, except for Motorist, our esteemed moderator, who actually grasps some fundamental principles (huge respect there, without being overly cynical—which is a rare, almost unique occurrence these days). And, heavens, Thor. It actually seems like they both operate on roughly the same level of understanding; it's just that Thor is "a bit" more radical while Motorist takes a more traditional approach. 🙂

An interesting observation, 🤣 indeed; except that I agree with the parts I disagree with, offering a secondary perspective that the aforementioned proud moderator hasn't quite grasped yet. Not yet... Mind you. But he copies and follows 🙂, which is pointless 😁 though admittedly clever. Yet, he truly lacks any sense of tact when he abruptly cuts off a spontaneous dialogue in his own secret. 😬
But all of this, it simply is, It is!