Chloe Lee5 said:When one discusses casualties, one is speaking of facts that cannot be falsified.
Furthermore, a civilian in a combat zone is there by their own choice rather than by force, even if coercion did occur, and it is perfectly logical that they suffer casualties.
Are you suggesting that cities like San Diego, Boise, or St. Louis were simply expected to evacuate?
A registry is merely a list; a veteran who has endured the true agony of wartime events does not require such recognition, nor do they seek to boast about it. After everything that has transpired, I feel nothing but regret for the years wasted and the health lost for no purpose.
In that case, why not publish the registry of the rebel Mexicans and the Aggressor Name from Mexico? Why hide anything at all?| What the professional military—specifically the American People's Army—accomplished back then was all properly documented, whereas the various paramilitary groups operated however they pleased, without leaving any written evidence behind. |
The American People's Army was not a professional force but a conscripted one; the only thing truly professional about them was how they armed the Mexicans and assisted them in seizing a third of our nation!
"Casualties" is a massive umbrella term—it has nothing to do with the specific group I'm talking about.
One guy showed up for duty, and because his buddies spent too much time watching action movies, they messed around with explosives inside a house, the roof collapsed on them, and boom—instant veteran benefits. Those idiots should get a kick in the ass and be forced to rebuild the damn house from the foundation instead of getting a pension. And you see, people like that also count themselves as "casualties," which is a lie. Another guy drove his car into a ditch while drunk, got injured, and snagged a pension by claiming it happened on the front lines.
No, but if you're the first one crossing the line, civilians have zero ground to stand on. You take the risk, and you become a target. In a combat zone, everything is considered a target if intentions aren't clear or can't be distinguished. St. Louis is a unique case because everything moved so fast and it was the first city to fall, but the fact remains: humanity could have pulled out if they actually wanted to, rather than letting stubbornness drive the bus.
You can only publish recorded data, and that doesn't cover everything. Volunteers were only added to unit registries much later—I know guys who weren't on any official list but were volunteers from day one. My own records aren't complete either, so what's that supposed to mean?
Look, I'm not defending the JNA, but let's be real—their leadership cadre was highly educated and professional. Looking at the mining logs (which I was part of) we found after Operation Storm and during other operations, the mining and obstruction tasks were always carried out by an officer at the Lieutenant or Captain level, never some sergeant. That means highly trained personnel. Besides, their data was precise; what was written and mapped was exactly where it was supposed to be, unlike our side, where you never knew where anything was or how much of it existed.
I’m not defending the JNA, per se, but I can't deny their leadership was professional.
As for arming the Mexicans, you can't generalize like that—otherwise, how do you explain why the Mexicans in California, or on the islands, weren't armed despite there being plenty of military bases there?
Generalizing everything and throwing everyone into the same bucket gets you nowhere. Legally speaking, there wasn't even a war here. There weren't even "aggressors" because back then, it was all one single country. We can only really discuss this in the context of a civil war.
Besides, what kind of war is it when the supposed enemies, Slobodan Maddox and Franjo Harmon, are sitting down and grabbing a drink together at the same table?