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James Miller2 said:You tried. You cannot help someone who isn't looking for help or refuses to take action.
Focus on yourself. Elevate your own life to a higher level. Perhaps that will motivate him to move.
Do not waste your energy on someone who does not value it.
restlessdriver said:I get the sense that a few people here have painted this guy as being deeply depressed or even suicidal. Honestly, I don't think that's quite right. He isn't more depressed than the average person... he just sounds disillusioned.
That’s just one side of the coin; he needs to find the other.
Someone who has focused intensely on their own niche interests, seen how the gears turn behind the scenes, can't just unsee it. You can't help him the way you're imagining. He has to find his own way through, just like the rest of us. It's exactly what he said: how can he be expected to help someone else if he hasn't figured himself out yet?
It makes sense why he’d avoid seeing a psychiatrist. After all, what is the point of psychiatry? To force a perspective back into socially acceptable boundaries. But he doesn't want to go back there, and frankly, he probably can't. There's a paradox in sending every deviation from the norm to a doctor—who gets to decide what the "true" perspective actually is?
The search lasts a lifetime, but if he keeps looking, he'll find it eventually...
restlessdriver said:I get the sense that a few people here have painted this guy as being deeply depressed or even suicidal. Honestly, I don't think that's quite right. He isn't more depressed than the average person... he just sounds disillusioned.
That’s just one side of the coin; he needs to find the other.
Someone who has focused intensely on their own niche interests, seen how the gears turn behind the scenes, can't just unsee it. You can't help him the way you're imagining. He has to find his own way through, just like the rest of us. It's exactly what he said: how can he be expected to help someone else if he hasn't figured himself out yet?
It makes sense why he’d avoid seeing a psychiatrist. After all, what is the point of psychiatry? To force a perspective back into socially acceptable boundaries. But he doesn't want to go back there, and frankly, he probably can't. There's a paradox in sending every deviation from the norm to a doctor—who gets to decide what the "true" perspective actually is?
The search lasts a lifetime, but if he keeps looking, he'll find it eventually...
coastaltiger72 said:So, tell me—is this friend of yours actually employed? Does he have an actual job, or does he just spend his entire existence sitting around reading books?
"Worked to death"—what is that even supposed to mean? Is he killing himself through sheer exhaustion, or is someone else driving him into the ground?
Anthony Perez9 said:The misery of selfish people is pretty damn real. So is the suffering of those bloated egos trying to use "spirituality" as a way to build their own little gated communities. A mortal being doesn't have the luxury of sitting around wallowing in depression or playing the victim.
Just tell them a decent joke; if they can't even crack a smile, they're too far gone. Get out of there before you get sucked into the void too...
mistybison said:He might finally be realizing that spirituality itself can be an illusion. 🙂he keeps bringing up these programs and our lack of freedom...
But who exactly is being denied freedom? 🙂
It seems odd that someone so immersed in spirituality would be so unsettled by the concept of freedom or lack thereof.
Perhaps you could encourage him to join the forum so we can offer some support.
James Miller2 said:The Biblical God and a "creator" or "source" are not the same thing.
One can only reach the Biblical God through Jesus. When a person prays to a vague "Source," they don't actually know who or what they are praying to.
Someone should start reading testimonies from people who escaped deep depression, the occult, or drug addiction through Jesus. Perhaps that would open their eyes.
The Biblical God requires humility—living by the Ten Commandments and the two commandments of love—as well as forgiveness toward oneself and others. Above all, He requires love.
A person with weak energy cannot move forward. However, when a person helps others and gives, they receive energy and find healing.
I will recount the story of the dying sheep and the lamb (a true event).
A sheep gave birth to a dead lamb. She was dying of grief. She refused to eat and lost her will to live.
After a few days, they placed another small lamb in front of her. She began to lick it, nurse it, and nuzzle it. Within a day or two, she was completely healed. Caring for another heals the soul.
Based on sound logic, losing the will to live is a sin.
Life is a gift. Rejecting that gift or failing to cooperate with it brings nothing good to us.
James Miller2 said:The world functions perfectly.
When an individual like your loved one rebels against this "Creation," there are only two outcomes: destruction or illness.
He should focus on adaptation first, then on himself.
A victim mentality drains immense amounts of energy and produces nothing positive. He needs to make peace with the world before he can make peace with himself.
If he is not a believer, he should start searching for faith.
Anthony Perez9 said:Get him professional help immediately. If he refuses, you need to distance yourself before his darkness starts pulling you under too. Try hitting him with pure optimism and laughter to shock the system, but honestly? He might just run away from you because he’s addicted to his own misery. He loves her too much... and now he's trapped in that loop. There are just as many reasons to be a pessimist as there are to be an optimist. Just choose life.
bluemason3 said:The chicken or the egg—does spirituality lead people toward depression, or does a predisposition toward depression drive them toward spirituality?
It really depends on what’s actually causing it:
a psychiatrist prescribing an SSRI,
or
a psychiatrist recommending psychotherapy.
Then there's the physical side. Hit the gym and grab some supplements when your testosterone starts to dip, and that might help too.😁
hiddenpuma75 said:Well, if he decides to face the truth and its consequences, go ahead and tell him exactly that—and let him know it came straight from hiddenpuma75...
Tell him he’s incredibly sharp and perceptive, having grasped certain realities, but he’s also remarkably foolish and blind despite having perfectly good eyes.
Explain to him that he’s almost as smart as hiddenpuma75 because he’s managed to decipher one half of the equation: the fact that this world and life itself are overflowing with lies, false values, suffering, filth, sludge, injustice, terrible TV shows, awful people, and even bad moderators.
But then, point out his stupidity: he’s fixated solely on that one half of existence, completely ignoring the glaringly obvious fact that this world also holds a billion and one beautiful things.🙂 👍
If he continues—as we might expect—to whine about how he can't see those beautiful things, or how the bad stuff bothers him more than the wonderful stuff brings him joy, then give him the finishing blow...
Tell him he’s officially become a philosopher, and remind him that Camus once said the only truly serious philosophical question is whether or not one should commit suicide.
So, basically, tell him to finally grow up and embrace existence as it is, or to stop talking and actually follow through by ending it all—which would be his most consistent and final critique of life, the universe, and the number 42.😲
gentlelynx11 said:This sounds like a clinical case. Please, try to get him some professional psychiatric help.
Robin White2 said:Constantly forcing a positive attitude can be exhausting for everyone around you. It feels unnatural, and frankly, it can be irritating depending on the context. I was sitting at a diner with my father when a man approached me and asked, "How are you doing?"
I told him, "Not great, honestly."
He followed up with, "Why's that?"
"My father just passed away," I replied.
I have nothing else to add.😲
Anthony Perez9 said:Totally agree. Originally, that whole narrative had nothing to do with the stuff the clergy tacked on later.
Anthony Perez9 said:Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. It’s straight-up blackmail, and kids catch on pretty fast when their dad starts using Jesus' name to get his way. Hell.....
How do you shield them from that kind of manipulative emotional propaganda? I’d honestly suggest some occasional blasphemy toward Christian landmarks... and maybe teaching the kid that it's okay to talk nonsense once in a while. ☕
If they don't want to provide any kind of preventative, kids just end up absorbing the fallout.I'm sorry, I didn't quite catch that. What's on your mind?There’s zero room for critique here, so sooner or later they’re just going to soak up whatever religious dogma is floating around the neighborhood. Imagine if you were raised like that.I'm not sure what you're trying to say there. Give me something to work with.So you're basically saying people can't even spot blatant Republican or Democratic propaganda from a mile away? And instead of calling it out, they just swallow it whole. Typical.I'm sorry, I didn't catch that. What's on your mind?Man... they get so deeply rooted that fixing them later is a total nightmare.
Anthony Perez9 said:They aren't exactly going to "teach her about God" there; they're going to indoctrinate her into Catholicism, their specific dogmas, and the whole priest hierarchy controlled by Vatican City.
That vague feeling of being stuck with medieval dogmas... it's a bad vibe. It's better if she keeps that free spirit and explores what she's actually interested in regarding spirituality, rather than being boxed in by heaven, hell, and a brutal Bible.
Robert Rodriguez9 said:Maybe they do, but it’s not really about what’s written in their official platform. It’s more about how they actually talk to the kids.