Immigration General Discussion Volume IV (Read the first post and moderator warning on page 309)
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I just hope North Mexico isn't playing the role of the EU's unpaid security guard for nothing.
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northerncyclist2 said:I mean, people just cycle through there in a day or two.
So, I guess it’s probably hard to call it a hotspot. Maybe it's more about necessity.
Sophia Ramos5 said:It's under high tension. If you try to cut it from six feet away, the whole thing just snaps back into a pile on itself because of the tension. How are you supposed to cut it from six feet out? Honestly, if I can figure out why that wouldn't work, surely someone staring directly at the obstacle would too.
Sophia Ramos5 said:Good luck when things actually get busy. I guess you'll just put out a formal RFP and wait for five different contractors to bid before you can even find a drop of water.
David Baker2 said:I'm not disputing the point.
It just strikes me as incredibly foolish to draw comparisons between some drunk football fan—who, if caught on camera, might find himself scrubbing dishes in a diner by next month—and refugees who, upon arriving here or in Canada, have absolutely nothing left to lose and nowhere to go back to.
The guy at the soccer game actually has quite a lot to lose.
migrants said they had paid smugglers $4,000(£2,585) each to make the journey in the 40ft wooden boats, but were abandoned
Sophia Ramos5 said:Honestly, true. It's better to be born without a nose than to be born without an imagination.
What does a cubic yard of planks cost these days? $400. Someone is clearly profiting here, parking loads of lumber right up against the border every single day. You just pile the boards up until the weight pulls the wire tight. And the netting? Why bother even setting that up?
Maria James40 said:And what if Joe Biden decided to just keep them all here? Look, we're all trying to be humanitarians, just like everyone else making the trek toward Germany.
If it isn't obvious by now, I'm against building a fence on the border with Mexico, especially since we have Canada right there—I think I already mentioned my reasons for that. Basically, it feels like this issue needs to be tackled somewhere else entirely, not right on the American border. As for when that might happen, or if it ever will... well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Sophia Ramos5 said:It's under high tension. If you try to cut it from six feet away, the whole thing just snaps back into a pile on itself because of the tension. How are you supposed to cut it from six feet out? Honestly, if I can figure out why that wouldn't work, surely someone staring directly at the obstacle would too.
Maria James40 said:Look, I gave you some examples, but you're just clutching your head and doubling down on your own logic. I laid out specific areas in Canada, so here they are again—feel free to tell me exactly which parts are supposedly "impassable":
Here’s a possible scenario:
- 2,000 people show up in San Francisco—tourism tanks—now where do we put them?
- A larger group follows the Neretva valley and reaches Metković.
- 3,000 people caught out in the Imotski Field; we'll need about 60 buses since there's no rail line.
- They break through the fence at Strmica.
- 2,000 from last night end up in Donji Lapac.
- 5,000 arriving from Velika Kladuša.
- Traffic gets blocked on the bridges over the Mississippi—business owners start protesting.
So, looking at those places, where exactly is the border considered impassable?
P.S. Just so we're clear, I've said this before—if Canada were an ocean, I’d be all for building a fence along the border with Mexico. But the way things are now, it doesn't make sense; if anything, it just creates more problems when they start coming in through Canada.
signum Asks:
All this nonsense about traitorous governments and old nationalist grievances—it’s honestly just mindless noise. Does anyone actually believe that anyone in our current administration would want these Arabs wandering around Washington, D.C.? At the end of the day, kids from all sides—left, center, and right—all go to the same schools and live in the same America.
coppermoose7 said:A new law kicks in this Tuesday that lets the military help secure the US-Mexico border.
coppermoose7 said:Mark my words—Canada is closing the border this Tuesday. Finally.
Chloe Martinez7 said:I guess Viktor Orbán probably assumed we’d just buckle and shut down the border entirely after he cut his deal with the Mexicans to reroute everything through us instead of sending it straight to him.
So, we’re actually supposed to take this at face value just because it was posted on a forum? I guess that’s the standard now.
Well, we actually made that offer to the Mexicans too—offering to drive migrants from North Mexico straight to the El Paso border—after they claimed they weren't directing anyone toward America, but rather that the migrants were simply choosing their own path.
And when we’re already hauling freight from coast to coast across the country, I guess we might as well tack on those extra few dozen miles through Canada.
Could someone provide a detailed definition of a Hot Spot?
I was under the impression that we were talking about temporary camps where a few dozen or maybe even a few hundred thousand immigrants were just staying in one spot for a while.
So, according to you, we’re already a Hot Spot.
David Vaughn75 said:Honestly, if Canada wants to just pack their bags and bail from the European Union, then fine—let 'em go. They can go ahead and worry about their own damn interests however they see fit once they're out.
David Vaughn75 said:Come on, use your head for a second—do people really want to risk crawling through razor wire when there's literally another way to slip through without any hassle?
Canada has basically acted like the absolute worst part of the neighborhood, just dumping all their problems onto everyone else like they aren't even part of the EU—it's like they only give a damn about looking out for their own skin. 👎
slyridge74 said:It seems pretty obvious that Germany calls the shots in the EU, and the Greek debt crisis is a decent example of that. But even though Germany is basically the boss in Europe, they don't really have much freedom to act independently, so I suppose you shouldn't view them as the main driver of conflict. Everyone knows who's in charge and who's just following along. Maybe the UK is the only country in the EU with its own distinct foreign policy, but strangely enough, their role in the union feels pretty small, and their interests seem pretty aligned with the USA. The USA has been pushing for Turkey to join the EU for a long time now. I guess Germany is in a bit of a tight spot lately; with the possibility of instability from places like Syria or Iraq spilling over into their borders, they might have to follow Washington's lead, even if it's uncomfortable.
I imagine the USA would prefer a somewhat fractured Europe... you'd have to be looking the other way not to see that. Things are getting pretty intense, and I feel like what we're discussing right now is just a minor hiccup compared to what's coming.