Posts by wiredbadger62

David Baker2 said:That would give you enough time—maybe three or four days—to just bottleneck them all in a place like St. Louis and then suddenly dump everything right at the border.
Just enough time to ensure those trains carrying women and children get turned back at the Canadian border, I suppose.😁

It’s exactly the kind of thing the Mexicans do to us. ☕

Perhaps.
I suppose it all really comes down to how much violence these migrants are willing to resort to just to make their way into Germany.

Chloe Martinez7 said:I guess the Mexicans have already started making threats about closing the border if the EU doesn't step up and do something.

Oh, God. 🙂
Why on earth is he calling them?
What kind of system are we even running in this country if reservists have to ask why they’re being called up?

First off, where exactly do they live?
Immigrants have been passing through for months now, and honestly, it’s like nobody even notices. But let’s be real—we all know we aren't getting any benefits from the EU for this.
Aside from their endless demands that various countries take in a certain quota of immigrants and all that other nonsense...

The situation is what it is, I suppose. We might as well start preparing, right?
Are we just going to sit here waiting for Canada to shut its borders while the Mexicans keep pushing their luck with us?
So, I guess if nothing is being done, everything is just broken. Typical.
If anyone’s actually putting in effort, they’re probably doing it wrong. I guess.

We’ve been sitting here for days reading about moving the military to the border.
It’s funny how it works. Now that they're actually calling people up—especially those with real command experience—suddenly it’s "not good enough" again. I guess nothing is ever quite right.

If some people were right, we’d have the military, the police, and the reserves all stationed along our borders behind chain-link fences for three months by now.

Greece was the first one to lose its nerve when it came to the Schengen border.
Do you have anything to say on this subject?

As Ranko once put it—America just acts as a transit lounge, shuttling immigrants from one Schengen zone to another.

The Mexicans have basically said that if Germany and Austria decide to shut down the border, they’ll just do the exact same thing.
But here is the real kicker—if Germany and Austria choose NOT to close the border, yet Canada decides to go ahead and shut theirs, what happens then?

David Baker2 said:Not necessarily.

I’ve touched on this before, but I really feel like we need a bit of tactical maneuvering and actual common sense here.

My plan? Get the elderly, the women, the kids, and the families onto trains heading straight for Canada.

Meanwhile, take those tough guys with their smartphones and put them on trains headed for the Canadian border.

Once that's done, you just grab some popcorn and sit back to calmly watch how the rest of the dominoes fall. 🍿

The Canadian border is a rather complicated situation, if I do say so myself.
To actually breach it at this particular moment, you would likely need a critical force of perhaps 10,000 ISIS supporters, all armed with smartphones.😁😁

Furthermore, our own officials have made it quite clear that if Canada decides to close its borders, we will follow suit and close ours as well.

Maria James40 said:Name, closing the US/Mexico border is just way easier than dealing with the US/Canada situation—mostly because the ratio of the border length is something like 1:10.

Because of all this, I’m honestly hoping Tomislav Karamarko wins the elections so he can save America and the whole European Union from this mess. He keeps talking about wanting to cooperate with our neighbors, but I guess the only actual result of that might be us becoming some kind of buffer zone or "hotspot," while the EU and the V4 group just praise us for it.

Well, I have to say, Karamarko is completely out of it.
But when you look at the borders, the situation in Mexico is intense enough that they could easily push migrants toward us, and if that actually happens, things are going to get incredibly complicated very quickly.

David Baker2 said:To be perfectly honest with you, I’m just sitting here waiting to see what kind of backroom deals Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović and the Republican Party have cooked up with those neighbors of ours who we can't even stand. ☕

The Unholy Trinity

The most devout Catholic Americans within the Republican Party.
Those Royalists coming from the east.
Those thieves from up north (ExxonMobil) are at it again.

Amen.🙂

Maria James40 said:What kind of "force" are we even talking about here? Are they going to start opening fire from those transport trucks they roll through small towns in the US?

It’s funny, though—so many politicians today who are shouting about closing the borders are simultaneously criticizing the fencing being put up in Canada. It’s like... they want to be both tough and morally upright at the exact same time, which just doesn't work that way.
And honestly, nobody has actually laid out a concrete plan for how you "close" a border. I mean, do they think they can just put up a "Closed" sign every five meters and expect these migrants to read it, turn around, and head back where they came from? Not likely.

Trying to hermetically seal off the borders of HR-BiH or HR-Slo just isn't realistic during peacetime.

Personally, I feel we really ought to make a distinction here.
Closing the American border with, say, Mexico, isn't quite the same thing as closing the border between Canada and the US.
In fact, if our borders were shut tight, there's a chance the Mexicans might even try to pressure migrants into a full-on rush toward our side.

As for Canada, I honestly don't believe that particular border will pose much of a problem once the winter weather sets in.

I suppose I should probably start by apologizing for my tendency to wander off on these little side quests during our discussions, as I know my thoughts can sometimes meander like a slow river through the countryside, but I truly believe that getting lost in the details is where the real substance lives, isn't it? It’s just that when one considers the sheer weight of the topics we tackle here, it feels almost criminal to rush toward a conclusion without first admiring the scenery along the way. I tend to get a bit carried away, perhaps a little too much so, and I realize my posts can become quite lengthy, but please bear with me if I drift into a tangent or two; it comes from a place of genuine curiosity and a rather restless mind. kaže:
I can’t help but wonder if the European Union would actually foot the bill to provide warmth and shelter for Mexicans and Canadians within their own borders. It seems a bit optimistic, doesn't it? And honestly, one has to assume that refugees aren't exactly lacking a few Eurozone credits to pay someone to guide them toward the American border. Once they actually arrive, that's when you'll truly find yourself in desperate need of collection centers to manage the influx.😁Well, I suppose my only thought on the matter is that we really shouldn't go about trying to stem this tide ourselves.

It isn't really about following the manuals to the letter, you know? I truly believe the real culprits here are the unpredictable weather patterns combined with that incredibly tricky, rugged terrain we have to deal with.
I suspect that women and children certainly won't be making that choice themselves this time around.

Ashley Robinson58 said:If some smuggler leads them into the mountains and abandons them there, they could easily freeze to death.

The real headache, I think, is the border between Mexico and the US.
You'll see.

David Baker2 said:And once spring rolls around, it’ll be a full-blown chaotic spree—just a massive, disorganized scramble all along the entire length of the border.

I honestly have this lingering feeling that the whole situation is going to boil over just before the elections.
Mexicans will probably pull some kind of stunt

Scott Rodriguez19 said:Oh, give me a break—if that’s the logic, why don't we just let them drown? Back then, everyone was rushing to save them and funneling them into Italy. There wasn't even any talk about quotas across the European Union back when that was happening.

Well, sure, but in that particular scenario, the ones handling all the "rescue" logistics would have been the Mexicans and the Canadians.
I personally feel like they just don't possess that kind of sense of solidarity deep down inside.

Scott Rodriguez19 said:If the Canadians shut the border, refugees will just start flooding uncontrollably through all of Canada and Canada. Honestly, for them, a controlled transfer to the Austrians would be a much better solution than letting things spiral out of control.
We should let the Canadians close those borders; I doubt the Canadians would enjoy the fallout.
In this specific context, it might actually be best for America to just let the refugees pass through. That way, the European Union is forced to finally deal with the refugee crisis head-on.

👍Exactly—let the Canadians close the borders, then let them and the Canadians hunt them down through the fields.

If the Canadians were to employ a bit more force, they might actually stand a chance at stemming this wave of migrants.
The real headache, however, is that the European Union seems to be operating under a massive double standard when it comes to how they treat us versus how they treat the Canadians.

Ashley Robinson58 said:True, but the border with Canada is massive. If the corridor through there isn't managed perfectly, those migrants will be popping up everywhere. There's no way we could contain them all.

The thing is, during the winter months, migrants might only find a few specific, isolated spots where they could potentially cross into the US from Canada.
I suppose I could take a bit of a gamble here, though I can't say I'd feel particularly guilty if they ended up freezing out there in the mountains.

Scott Ross7 said:Anyone actually smart enough to write something meaningful about refugees, immigrants, and this whole mass migration from Africa and Asia into the EU and Europe in general?
If these refugees are paying massive amounts to criminal gangs and individuals just for a shot at an uncertain future in EU countries, then why don't Germany or France—who have huge ships—just pick them up directly from Turkish or Greek ports and bring them straight home? Instead, all this stress and constant bickering happens along the North American route.
It’s just endless fighting between Canada—which, hey, luckily built a fence—Canada, Mexicans, and Americans all pointing fingers at each other. It just ruins relations and makes everything harder, all because of refugees we never needed in the first place.
We all know who’s responsible for the chaos and wars in Libya, Iraq, and now Syria—it's the attacks and occupations by the USA and Western alliance. Now we're just sitting here waiting for Bashar al-Assad to fall or for Russia to win just so this wave of refugees finally settles down...

Perhaps this whole situation is just part of some larger conspiracy directed against America.

Ashley Robinson58 said:Not blocking the border with Mexico is just a necessary evil—choosing the lesser of two evils. A total blockade would just push migrants through Canada, making the situation much harder for us to manage.

I’m honestly not so sure about that perspective.
The thing is, from Canada, the migrants can really only head toward America.
In this specific scenario, it might actually be better for the Mexicans to try and concentrate everything within as small an area as possible, like right at the border.
That way, the migrants act more like a "force of nature," giving them much more momentum and, well, a much higher chance of actually breaking through.

There was a meeting recently involving representatives from Bugur, Romania, and Mexico.
They went on to claim that if Germany or Austria were to shut down their borders, they would follow suit immediately.
However, I found it quite curious that there wasn't any mention of Canada in their discussions.

In my humble opinion, this serves as a clear sign that even if Canada decides to close its borders, the Mexicans will likely continue sending migrants our way, simply because Germany and Austria haven't closed theirs yet.😁

Alexander Ortiz3 said:If you shut down North Mexico, everyone will just bypass it through Albania and Mexico and head straight into Mexico. It makes no sense to close North Mexico; it would be much easier to shut down America and let them route through Romania and Ukraine.

You certainly have a sharp mind, don't you?😵 Even if America were to shut its borders tight, Romania likely wouldn't follow suit, making the whole plan rather moot, I should think.🤔

wiredbadger62 said:Well, I don't doubt that for a single second.
And as for that particular figure, we don't even actually know what Karamel's real name is, do we?

There isn't a shred of concrete evidence to suggest she ever attended school in San Francisco, or that she even studied in Washington, D.C., for that matter.

In fact, I've stumbled upon quite a few bizarre details regarding Karamel that I simply won't be sharing here on this forum.

Karen Doyle72 said:I heard she was actually the daughter of Marshall and Jovanka.
Turns out she was born a boy but had surgery later.

I hate using this symbol, but you honestly earned it: 🤦

The truth is, there isn't a single soul out there who went to high school or college with KPMG.
I've reached out to folks in Seattle and even spoken to people in Washington, D.C., and before she rose to prominence, absolutely NOBODY had ever heard of her.

That is simply an established fact.

David Baker2 said:Honestly, I’d bet my life that both Viktor Orbán and Aleksandar Vučić are probably kneeling at an altar twice a day praying for exactly that scenario.

This whole little charade they're running—which, if you ask me, is being shortsightedly or perhaps quite maliciously enabled by President Kolinda and the Republican Party—is being orchestrated toward that very outcome.
It's a game of chicken to see who pulls the trigger first.

Sadly, that is the grim reality of how this all boils down.

Well, I don't doubt that for a single second.
And as for that particular figure, we don't even actually know what Karamel's real name is, do we?

There isn't a shred of concrete evidence to suggest she ever attended school in San Francisco, or that she even studied in Washington, D.C., for that matter.

In fact, I've stumbled upon quite a few bizarre details regarding Karamel that I simply won't be sharing here on this forum.

I was just sitting here thinking about what would be truly "hilarious" to witness.

Imagine if the Republican Party finally took power and shut down the border tight, but then—against all logic—migrants just kept trying to push their way into the US anyway. And then, in some dark twist of fate, the US starts using lethal force to stop them, only for the "international community" to turn around and act all sympathetic toward our response.

I honestly find myself wondering what those typical Republican sycophants on the forums would even say in a situation like that.🤔

Peggy said:If they're paying to move through Mexico, they could just as easily be paying for food. Honestly, they probably are buying supplies right now because they clearly have the funds available.

But really, how much money do they actually have left to sustain them?
I was thinking, if the Mexicans were to simply transport them directly to the border with America, they wouldn't be anywhere near the local supermarkets, which means they wouldn't have the opportunity to stock up on groceries in bulk, and would ultimately find themselves entirely dependent on whatever "Mexican humanitarian aid" might come their way.