Posts by Jonathan Smith12

hollowtinker33 said:I’m pretty sure that user is neonhawk6.

It certainly could be, especially since she’s been getting all caught up in those gritty mob movie scenarios lately... honestly, those types of people are absolute monsters when it comes to that sort of thing.👍

goldentinker8 said:I honestly can't believe what you're typing here... Seriously, if you've actually spent even ten percent of the time in the hardcore fan scene that you claim to have, how on earth are you acting shocked by some lady at a stadium shouting nonsense because she saw things from her own little perspective? Or about some random guy in a crowd of 1,500 people trying to provoke a player on the pitch? It's unbelievable, right, how could something like that even happen?! I can totally spot someone who’s never stepped foot in an American stadium before, but you? You claim to be part of the crew, man, come on... Isn't it just a running joke that everyone at these stadiums thinks they’re a PhD holder or some kind of absolute genius? And let me tell you, our local stadium is famous for exactly that kind of nonsense 🙏

I am getting so incredibly bored with this whole argument, seriously! What's next, are all the citizens of our city going to gather tomorrow just to issue a formal apology on behalf of one bald guy? Yeah, we might just do that too, just so you guys can stop being so incredibly dramatic about everything 👍

I have to admit, it was my very first time seeing a woman acting that intense right from the bleachers. 😉

stormygardener15 said:So, after the practice wrapped up, Marko Livaja actually went over to the kid and his family to make things right. He apologized because he’d accidentally caught him in the hand during the session, they had a quick little chat, and honestly, the whole thing just ended on the best possible note.

Now, I just know the vultures are going to start circling, trying to tear that kid and his family apart over this. 🤦

goldentinker8 said:I mean, what exactly are people supposed to say to you guys right now? Especially those who weren't even there or honestly just couldn't care less about a soccer match? Are we really doing this because some player got caught in a little spat with a fan? What, should we just lock down every stadium in the country forever so this never happens again just because there’s a tiny chance someone in the crowd might shout something out or act up? 🤦 Look, I am not making any excuses for the fan, okay, I get it, but watching this guy act like such a total jerk is just hilarious—he’s all offended and worked up just because he got called out by a supporter and won't give an autograph anymore. 🙄 Wow, someone call an ambulance, because he clearly went through a massive trauma, something totally unheard of in the history of American sports, you know? Such a big fucking deal!

"Screw him, you're the idiot for not befriending his kids after this..."
Can you believe that? Some woman shouting that from the stands—honestly, what kind of twisted mindset is that? 🙏

goldentinker8 said:Man, seriously, he’s basically the only one besides almost everyone else—including Datum—who isn't sitting here crying about everything, so massive respect to him!👍

Look, just do me a favor—step away from the mirror for a second, take a good, hard look at yourself, and really ask what you’re doing here. I mean, seriously, bringing up parents in a conversation like this? It’s honestly beneath you. Just try to reach a little higher, find some semblance of maturity, because I truly cannot wrap my head around how someone could be so incredibly dense as to actually support or defend something that ridiculous.

It’s funny how one beautiful narrative can just set its sights on another, almost like it’s trying to outshine it through sheer intensity 🙏

ruggedowl13 said:If this was just some amateur league average...

There is absolutely no way that was the full crowd at the stadium today... if those numbers are even remotely accurate, we could easily squeeze in another 15,000 people, and honestly, I haven't the slightest clue where on earth we would put them all. It just feels fundamentally off, almost surreal, you know?

goldentinker8 said:Look, I never once said nobody saw what went down back then... What I’m saying is, why did it actually happen the way it did? I pointed out how the Torcida guys were basically playing nice with the Armada crew, and then everything shifted. I also mentioned how that whole narrative—trying to paint the Armada as the ultimate villains—started getting pushed hard once we moved to this new state. For heaven's sake, I never claimed people didn't see what was happening at the time, seriously! Come on now, give me a break! 👍

Who exactly was being friendly? You're trying to explain the very events I was actually present for...

Back during that era, the Rijeka Torcida was probably one of the strongest chapters supporting the Chicago side, so naturally, people knew each other; they weren't exactly looking for a fight at each other's front doors like they might have been years later, and I'm certain there was mutual friendliness among them at times...

I mean, with what kind of force could you even hope to attack a thousand or two people if they had actually shown up at Kantrid?
There wasn't any attack, and suddenly everyone is best friends? If that’s the case, does everything we smashed—from the stadium all the way down to the train station after the tear gas incident—also count as "being friendly"?...

Sure, you could have cleared the Gypsies off the stands back then, but you didn't, so everything you wrote stands; the whole story about "cheering together" just spread like wildfire because, frankly, it suited our interests to let that narrative take hold...

goldentinker8 said:Oh, come on, quit the nonsense, who even brought up the stadium? I'm talking about the whole saga and the clashes with the hardcore ultras, which really kicked off in this new country! Everything truly boiled over back on December 4th, 1988... and it wasn't even that video Jason Kern49 posted; those were later riots, the year on that video is totally wrong!

The whole thing started right after that '87 championship game... there were 6,000 people at that final, all watching, and they saw exactly what was coming...

Carl Hernandez3 said:The real issue here is everyone trying to rewrite history regarding who was actually sitting in whose section during some tournament back in '87.
Who was actually tearing up the stadium in Miami back in 1980?
Who really played dirty against the big cities in '60 or '79?
Which teams were getting crushed by the guys from Chicago or Philly—who basically kept the smaller clubs from ever becoming stable major league staples?

Truth be told, everyone was playing nice with them until about '89—that’s just how the game worked. Everyone has their skeletons in the closet, and let's face it, that's just the way it is.

All this talk about playing nice with the old rivals while simultaneously claiming we laid out their star players on the field...🙏 🙏.
It’s all ancient history at this point.🙏 🙏

Carl Hernandez3 said:May 29, 1960.

Two of Dinamo’s key players suffered serious injuries from the opponent's brutal tackles—which sparked a massive protest from the club's board—and the atmosphere in the stands was absolutely electric, bordering on dangerous, during the big derby between Hajduk and Dinamo. At the time, the Blue squad was locked in a "photo finish" with Red Star in the race for the championship title, but they hit a major roadblock right in Split against the home side. Hajduk walked away with a 3-2 victory, leaving the second-place Dinamo trailing Red Star by a point with only three games left. A draw would have been enough for the Blues to stay in contention for first place; they went on to win all their remaining matches, but Red Star managed to pull through as well, ultimately clinching the title. After the whistle, Dinamo's chief secretary, Otto Hofmann, released an official statement expressing pure outrage over the reception in Split, stating: “The match was played under impossible conditions; several of our players were seriously injured due to malicious fouls—specifically Jerković and Matuš. Throughout the game, our players were surrounded by intense tension and stones being thrown from the stands onto the pitch.” Later on, some individuals even threw stones at the Dinamo team bus, while the Hajduk management actually confiscated negatives from the visiting photographers, destroying their work. The drama didn't end there either—the local club officials publicly called out their own player, Ante Zanetić, for not playing hard enough, and he was later physically assaulted in town... The home defender, Stipe Ilić, essentially neutralized Dinamo’s most dangerous striker, Dražan Jerković, within the first ten minutes with a brutal blow to the shin, forcing him off on a stretcher. He was replaced by then-junior Ivica Cvitković. In the second half, Pavle Garov leveled the playing field with a similar move on Željko Matuš, who also had to leave the field. Under the rules back then, you couldn't make tactical substitutions once players were gone, so Dinamo had to fight through the last thirty minutes with only ten men. Despite the chaos, Luka Liposinović gave the Blues the lead with a volley in the 12th minute, and Zlatko Papec equalized in the 31st following an assist from Garov. Two minutes after that, Liposinović nearly shattered the woodwork. However, the Blues reclaimed the lead when Nedeljko Dugandžija took a pass from Vladimir Čonča, beat the keeper, Ante Vulić, and shook the net. Just before halftime, Garov leveled things again with a strike from 20 yards out. Finally, in the 50th minute, Papec capitalized on a pass from Zvonko Bege to make it 3-2.

I mean, seriously, is this even real life?
People were so obsessed with Red Star that they actually turned on their own player for not being aggressive enough—it's just wild.

What total myth-making🙏 ,and frankly, you’re such a slippery little forum dweller🍿

Oh, let's just completely ignore the fact that we beat the Yankees 4-1 in their territory just a few weeks prior... let's just pretend the other team didn't knock us out of the semifinals recently...

How are you looking at the 1953 season? We crushed the Yankees 4-1 in New York, but then, with only three games left, the Yankees beat us 5-1 in Los Angeles, and those guys ended up finishing first by two points.

goldentinker8 said:Look, let me wrap this up once and for all... There isn't a single fan group, supporter, or individual out there who hasn't dealt with some kind of intense situation involving Mexicans over the last 50 or 60 years where things "happened," you know? It’s impossible not to have a story to tell about it.

The straight truth is that the supporter scene on the coast wasn't at the level we see today, whereas your scene always was. We respect that, it’s legitimate, and honestly, it’s worth a congrats.

You guys actually built up that specific energy, that heavy rivalry with the Mexicans way back when. We didn't. People weren't getting kicked out during away games, nobody was pushing those aggressive agendas, and frankly, nobody gave a damn about those schemes. You guys had that whole dynamic going with the Mexico City teams, but we didn't. I'm telling you this so you finally get why the average fans here couldn't care less about any of that drama.

We couldn't have pulled that off with you guys either... You could have been right there in those stands, and nothing bad would have happened; it would have been a total blast! Especially since a dozen of those Armada guys had been through the ringer before, and especially because there were Torcida fans mixed right in with them.
Expecting supporters to feel the exact same way in a "unified" country without that pre-existing rivalry is just pure comedy.

Plus, after all that, the Armada and Torcida actually had pretty close ties; there were even times they swapped members! Nobody complained because, let's be real, nothing crazy happened during that era. It was only in this new era of our country that this whole narrative about the hooligans started brewing. And if you ever find yourself wondering why the folks from the coast are so incredibly fired up, why they’re constantly shouting "what the hell is this?" or "what's the deal with that?"... just know that you guys played a huge part in that. You created a myth that raised entire generations on both sides of the fence. But hey, maybe that’s actually better for the rivalry in the long run, so don't overthink it too much—though I notice you ask about why we're so hyped up quite often! So, there you go. Enjoy! 👍

Look, I was actually at that Cup final at the old stadium, so I know exactly what I'm talking about, but I won't dwell on it; however, I definitely made the trip to see games down at the seaside stadium back in '89 and '90, and I can tell you with absolute certainty that what you're claiming doesn't hold any water... you're just talking nonsense.

Kyle Campbell4 said:A third Russian general has fallen. It always happens the same way: once the momentum stalls on the battlefield, they try to get close to the front lines to boost troop morale or scout the situation personally. Then, when things inevitably spiral out of control, they start barking orders at Chechen units positioned in the rear, who end up setting up blockades and firing on their own retreating soldiers. You simply cannot kill off an endless wave of Orcs when they keep pouring in constantly. Honestly, I fail to understand what on earth the leadership in western Ukraine is waiting for. They have a massive pool of $15-20 billion just sitting there. They need to organize those brigades and deploy them immediately to support the efforts in both the north and the south of the country.

But how are you even supposed to move a convoy if the Russians have total air superiority? They tried that right at the beginning of the conflict, and the Russians just picked off several columns effortlessly...
The real question is how seriously the Ukrainians actually took the warnings from the Americans, and just how much equipment they have tucked away in the east... the most capable Ukrainian fighters are stationed in the Donbas, and if they try to move them anywhere else in a convoy, the Russians will likely intercept and destroy them on the road, which is exactly why the Ukrainians are pleading with NATO for a no-fly zone.
It’s basically down to guerrilla territory tactics and seeing who can endure the longest... that’s just how it’s going to play out.

Larry Fox5 said:He was lying to you because there's like a thousand miles between Washington, D.C. and Turkey—no radar is covering that much ground. There is some high-tech radar in the US with a range of 3108 miles, but that thing is one-of-a-kind and costs more than the entire US federal budget combined. 😁

The truth is, they’re all looking at the exact same picture because their systems are completely interconnected.

Joseph Clark37 said:The Arrow was a solid system back in its day, though I hear many of the units we still have are malfunctioning and will soon be replaced by Israeli tech. At the end of the day, the Arrow is a short-range anti-aircraft system... if you don't have troops on the ground in that specific area carrying them, you're essentially defenseless...

I suppose the Arrow is fine for someone on a shoestring budget; if you haven't got any air cover of your own, you just fire an Arrow at anything that looks even remotely hostile... but if you actually possess your own air force, well, then you start worrying about accidentally taking down one of your own pilots, and frankly, what does some guy standing in the dirt know about who's actually up in the clouds?
It’s all interconnected, really—getting high-end aircraft naturally necessitates having top-tier air defense to match...

Larry Fox5 said:An F-22 Raptor is top-tier tech—it picks up everything within a 450-kilometer radius. Not sure if they even have radar setups like that here in the States.

Oh, they definitely exist.

Kyle Lopez2 said:Did we even have anything capable of taking down a drone like that?🤣

Also, maybe ask your friend how far into Canadian territory our radar can actually see, or if they’re even monitoring what happens in Canadian airspace.🤔

We could have taken it down with a Mig... all the intel flows directly into a centralized command center.
The real question isn't about capability, it's whether we caught it in time, or if we were just caught napping because the threat was coming from an allied nation; honestly, the public probably won't ever get the full story, so I find it a bit strange that everyone is acting so surprised by the lack of official information on the matter. 😁

They say this drone weighs about six tons, and if you decide to blast it out of the sky, you might end up raining down a hundred different sixty-pound fragments onto a populated neighborhood, whereas if you just let it fall on its own, it hits one specific spot... someone has to make a split-second call here, and it's easy to act like it's the Wild West where you just shoot first and ask questions later.
You aren't exactly in a combat zone, after all, and you can't just go shooting at things when you have absolutely no idea what you're looking at.

ironranger67 said:It’s almost hard to believe, but we’re actually getting top-tier military intelligence right here on Offside. 🤣🙏

The real "top-tier" info here is just realizing that NATO is basically a joke and that Turkey isn't even a real power, 🙏

I mean, look, France has one of the five largest military budgets on the planet, yet you have the English sailing halfway around the world just to fight Argentinians over the Falkland Islands because of a few sheep... I mean, seriously, what are they actually accomplishing? 😵
Turkey might actually be a force to contend with if they didn't share a border with Greece; otherwise, they can't even grab an island or drill for gas in the sea without running into issues, and if they want to sail from Izmir to Istanbul, they've got to pass through Greek waters first.

Anthony Jackson2 said:Then what's the point if tens of thousands of people are just going to end up leaving shelters again for work? What's stopping the hundred or so folks who leave just to visit a grocery store they don't have locally, or to see parents, grandparents, or a partner?

And it’s not different in the country—it's pretty obvious people aren't visiting each other much lately; they're mostly just staying home. In my view, people from more rural areas are far less of a headache than those from the cities.

Now, that sounds like a rather arbitrary numerical estimate of yours,
or perhaps you heard some inside scoop from a connection of yours
regarding these tens of thousands of folks who will be shifting their legal addresses for employment reasons
while only about a hundred are actually looking to move just to plant some potatoes or check on the plumbing at a weekend cabin
and therefore, you're suggesting the whole decision is essentially pointless?

Jose Scott3 said:Where'd you get that from? You can totally get away with it if you're all in the same spot or nearby, and as long as there's fewer than five of you... provided nobody's stuck in quarantine...

I hope you realize what a total load of crap you just spewed. That hospital connection is a joke... if things were actually serious, they'd know that "two confirmed cases" is basically nothing on paper. It means there are at least five times more people actually sick in that environment—maybe even ten times more if you count the ones showing zero symptoms. Unless your city is some medieval fortress that literally locked down every single gate the second the infection showed up... 🤦

But apparently, his contact told him there were only two infected people, so why on earth are you stepping in now to ruin the perfect little picture he's painted? 🤦