The topic hasn't even officially launched, yet based on the rules, it’s already ready to be closed. 🙂
The musicians can stop playing now. Where did everyone get the idea that we could have a meaningful debate centered solely on a 40% quota? It’s just not happening. You can basically only say "okay," "I agree," "nice," or "cool," or alternatively, "no," "that sucks," or "I disagree." Anything beyond that is crossing a line because, whether people like it or not, we're forced to address unconstitutional laws and various gender ideologies. And you all simply won't allow that.
This thread has been locked. And honestly, it wasn’t because anyone broke the rules, started trolling, or threw insults. It happened simply because the moderator decided they didn't "like" the direction of the conversation. I’ve mentioned this before: a moderator shouldn't—and shouldn't be allowed to—moderate based on personal feelings. They need to stick strictly to the rulebook.
neonfox12 said:What I really want to figure out—and this actually happened to me once—is why the instigator almost always walks away with a lighter sentence than the person they pushed into reacting.
I’m curious about that too. It seems to happen all the time where the person starting the trouble gets off easy, just like what I dealt with personally. 🍿
Charles Fox10 said:My colleague made a fair point about closing the thread; unfortunately, discussions like this always seem to hit a dead end eventually. This specific topic regarding the 2008 Act—which should take effect following the next US elections—has simply run its course. A little patience, and we'll see how things unfold. Thanks.
So what if it ends? What’s the harm in that?
If you want proof that there's plenty to talk about, just look at how the moderators are acting. They keep shutting down "unusual topics" even when we have plenty of interested members sharing relevant facts.
While we’re being patient, it feels like you're turning this forum into a space where people can't speak freely.
If your side truly had the right arguments, you'd win an open debate easily. So why doesn't that happen? Why are the moderators leaning so heavily on censorship lately? It makes you wonder if force is the only way left to win an argument, doesn't it? 😉
I wanted to bring the moderation on the US PDF back to everyone's attention, specifically regarding this thread:
Could someone please take a look at the last few pages? It seems like the moderators are playing favorites by allowing total freedom of speech without any consequences, especially when it comes to Honeychild.
If I were posting like that, I probably wouldn't just be banned by now—I’d likely be facing a full suspension.
I'll admit my penalized posts were a mistake, but not for the reasons you think. In historical contexts, a slave could achieve manumission through their owner's choice and become a free person. A man doesn't have that luxury; discriminatory laws and the suspension of habeas corpus—the very bedrock of our legal system—are always lurking. So, comparing a slave to a free man just doesn't hold water. A slave can escape their condition; a man cannot.
Offensive. Trolling.
I’ve noticed plenty of posts on those topics that were clearly offensive and meant to troll. They generalized, spat venom, insulted, and mocked without ever trying to build a real argument. Yet, somehow my posts are labeled as offensive and trolling, while theirs aren't. And all the moderators seem to agree. Honestly, they can take their moderation elsewhere.
This forum has always had a certain ideological lean, and the moderators were chosen along those same lines. Even so, most people followed professional standards, and on the Politics board, Republicans were actually given space to express their views.
Lately, I see a massive drop in how professionally the moderation is being handled.
First off, moderators often don't moderate based on the rules; they operate on a "I like this post" versus "I don't like this post" basis.
Second, when there are opposing viewpoints on a thread, they let "their crowd" run wild without consequences, while they essentially discard "the others." Back when I got banned, that specific thread looked really interesting—it was full of blue and black posts mocking people without any logic, while the other side was just a gray "scorched earth," completely silenced. If I remember correctly, nothing was posted on that thread for days.
Third, we are seeing unprecedented aberrations. We used to have the Mad House on the Politics board, which was semi-moderated and served as a space for Republicans to vent. Today on CNN, we have this incredible situation where, under the watchful eye of benevolent moderators who have completely let go of the brakes for their own kind, a leftist version of the Mad House has formed.
What I expect from moderators is that they set aside personal animosity and enforce the rules equally for everyone. If I respond to an orderly post with the same level of decorum, but my post gets tossed because someone didn't like it, that isn't right. If I respond to a trolling or flaming post with the same energy, I expect both posts to be removed—not, as so often happens, just mine.
If your goal is to turn this forum into a progressive wasteland where progressives just pat each other on the back and compliment one another on how brilliant they are, then you're definitely on the right track. ☕
Well, there you have it. I don't even need to argue my case when she’s already laid everything out herself.
First off, there isn't a single shred of actual evidence here. It's just one endless string of ad hominem attacks; she’s just muddying my name without citing any facts. Anyone who wants to can go look through my history on the US and see that's not the case. Even if her version were true—which it isn't—since when did it become forbidden to hold an opinion that the moderation team dislikes, provided we aren't actually breaking any forum rules? Or am I just out of the loop on some new guidelines I missed? 🙂
Second, she’s complaining because I told her she isn't performing her duties properly. She took it personally, which is why she's upset, but I always explain exactly why I feel that way. Now she claims she won't accept my private messages anymore. Honestly, how professional is that for a moderator? If she just focused on doing her job better, she’d be getting praise instead of complaints. I have nothing against Grace Kim80 personally—in fact, I agree with some of her stances—but for some reason she’s singled me out. Anyone looking at my infraction history can see that most of those are coming from her.
Let me say this once more: a moderator shouldn't let emotions take the wheel. They shouldn't moderate based on personal whims or whether they "like" or "dislike" a certain viewpoint. They need to set aside personal preferences and remain impartial. Instead, it seems Grace Kim80 simply "dislikes" my writing style, which is clearly reflected in the warnings and deleted posts.
Finally, I mentioned an inflammatory post by one of her associates earlier, and it's still sitting there. In the meantime, a new reply popped up in that exact same style. Grace Kim80 issued a warning for it. Like I said before, being a good moderator isn't about shielding "your own" flame war participants while deleting or punishing anyone else naive enough to engage with them.
Grace Kim80 isn't moderating professionally; she’s actually jumping right into the debate herself. She lets her "own" side get away with trolling and flame wars, yet she goes ahead and deletes any responses from the opposing side.
I sent her a private message to point out that this isn't how good moderation works. You should either leave both the provocation and the response, or delete them both. Using moderator tools to selectively wipe out answers just to control the conversation feels pretty heavy-handed. I haven't heard back from her at all.
Andrew Roberts3 said:What’s actually wrong with the Nazgûl in the movie? They are exactly how I pictured them in my head...
If you've read the books, they can't be portrayed like that.
One of the beauties of the book version of LOTR is how J.R.R. Tolkien masterfully paces everything—the revelations, the level of fantasy, and the sheer terror.
Tolkien takes the Hobbits out of their cozy, 19th-century rural American countryside and slowly, carefully, introduces them to a strange, new, supernatural world where an apocalyptic war is unfolding. Then, at the end, he gently leads them back to their peaceful, pastoral life.
In the film, though, that first encounter with the Nazgûl feels like a total jump scare. You immediately see the iron boots, the swords, the horses with glowing red eyes, all the creepy creatures getting agitated while that "Mordor music" kicks in. In contrast, Tolkien presents them initially as almost unimpressive—almost like sacks falling off horses, just sniffing around.
He builds that tension gradually until it hits its peak when the Wizard on horseback enters Minas Tirith as the absolute embodiment of dread.
Like I mentioned before, I don't think Peter Jackson quite captures that sense of gradation or knows what truly matters, so we completely miss out on that incredibly significant build-up in the movie.
Is there no discussion thread for this movie yet? 🙂
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1872194/?ref_=nv_sr_1
I’ve always had a soft spot for this specific genre of American cinema—you know, the one where the protagonist heads back to their sleepy hometown from a massive city like New York or Chicago, only to be confronted by a messy, secretive past.
Iron Man and Consigliere carry the lead roles here, and they really did a fantastic job with the material. Since the plot focuses so heavily on their dynamic, the rest of the cast didn't get much breathing room to shine.
Andrew Roberts3 said:"The Fellowship of the Ring" is still absolutely perfect to me. Peter Jackson actually stuck closest to the books here, before he started all those ridiculous cuts and changes you see in "The Two Towers" and "The Return of the King." To be honest, the first two movies in "The Hobbit" trilogy felt pretty lukewarm to me—I definitely need to do a rewatch just to refresh my memory... but that last one actually surprised me in a good way. It was better than I expected, though still not quite enough to take the top spot.
I'm right there with you. In the first part of LOTR, they didn't go overboard with those fuzzy plot changes, and Frodo didn't seem like he was wandering around in a complete daze. That said, the movie isn't without its flaws; for instance, the depiction of the Nazgûl felt off, and that council scene in Rivendell was handled pretty poorly. On the bright side, I loved Arwen and those romantic moments with Aragorn, plus the portrayal of Lothlórien and Galadriel was spot on. Though, I have to say, the take on Saruman and Orthanc was a bit of a disaster.
If a movie is terrible, then sure, go ahead and reboot it tomorrow if you want. But for the absolute classics, like 🙏 "Ben-Hur," leave them alone. Actually, wait... I just realized "Ben-Hur" is a reboot itself! 😬
northerntiger said:Look, mods aren't trying to start endless, pointless fights; they just want a decent conversation. You can't have a real discussion if one side is busy calling the other a murderer just because they support legal medical procedures here in the States.
What you're constantly hunting for is basically like someone starting a thread on a political sub supposed to be about policy, but instead, they just go off on how all Catholics are killers because the Church is against condoms, and therefore people die from AIDS. They'll find plenty of links, studies, and articles to back it up—because let's face it, you can find a "study" to support almost anything. Then, once the mods shut the thread down or give them a warning, they come crawling back here whining about how democracy is dead.
It's pretty simple: we either have total anarchy with zero moderation, or we follow the forum's rules. Personally, I think the admins have way more patience for this group of slackers than they should, for real.
Just because something was legal in different states at different times doesn't mean it was actually right. 😉
lonebadger6 said:Exactly. If I need to spell it out again, I'm pro-choice, and personally, I find most majority pro-life arguments pretty stupid, and they usually just irritate me...
But the whole damn foundation of the pro-life side is that abortion is murder. That's why they're against it . And what actually insults your intelligence—using your own term from earlier—is how nonsensical and hypocritical it is to allow the politics abortion debate on this sub, yet forbid anyone from actually calling it murder. What else is there to discuss? That's the entire point... 99.99% of pro-lifers oppose abortion because they see it as murder.
There it is. We probably feel the same way about abortion, but in my view, the moderator's decision is the only wrong one. The only bad one...
They can ban the politics abortion debate on this sub. They can open it up to both sides.
Either choice is their business, and I support both options...
This part is just completely senseless.
It's like saying you can talk about abortion, but one side isn't allowed to mention their main—often their only—objection. 😁
Seriously, tell me, how is it even remotely normal to say, "Sure, you can have a discussion, but we're going to gag one of you so you stay quiet..." 🙏 😁
slywolf45 said:I honestly don't even know how to respond to that, because the law is crystal clear: IT IS NOT MURDER. If the law doesn't recognize it as such, I fail to see how we can just relabel it as murder on a whim.
Look, if I were to take a firearm and shoot someone in the head with fatal results, 😳 I wouldn't go around calling it anything other than murder, regardless of what some legal loophole might suggest.
Think about this: what if some researchers out in Australia suggest that post-birth abortion should be legalized until a child is two years old? If that trend hits the West and America tomorrow, will people suddenly change their vocabulary to protect themselves from being labeled?
What even defines a law? Are we supposed to just follow whatever is written down without question while we're on a forum? Laws aren't carved in stone; they shift constantly as Congress, the Government, and the public debate them. Why shouldn't we have those same debates here? It's like if the government decided to privatize the interstate highway system tomorrow—would talking about that be considered off-limits too? 🙏 😵
There are good laws and there are bad ones. You find laws passed by democracies, dictatorial regimes, totalitarian states, and any nation driven by specific ideologies. Isn't it a citizen's fundamental duty to speak up against injustice, even if that injustice has been officially signed into law? Since when did the excuse "it's the law, so shut up" become a valid reason to silence someone? 🙂
Let's call it what it is: plain and simple censorship. Period. The forum leadership seems very aligned with modern ideology, using their authority to muzzle others just because certain topics make their allies uncomfortable. This isn't limited to the politics abortion debate; I've already mentioned the suppression of discussions regarding the link between pedophilia and homosexuality, and I'm sure there are plenty of other examples.