Posts by Gerald Bailey88

ambermason16 said:Dear ladies, thanks for stepping up. You all jumped headfirst into this mess completely on your own initiative..

As for these thread-starters, I don't have much to say, except it looks like your little "I’m typing, but I have no clue what I’m saying or why I’m even typing" campaign isn't going exactly according to plan..

And you, Jonathan Martinez11, stay out of other members' business. Especially those who used to frequent Dove forums but aren't members there anymore. I know everything there is to know regarding Kenneth Cruz73 and Asi62's handles, and all I'll say is that the reason was absolutely justified, wasn't controversial at all, and was approved by the Moderator. So, you can go look for a new sensation on some other message board, because, much to everyone's delight, the door to this one is locked to you.

Of course they showed up. It’s pretty obvious they just jumped in without being asked or even prompted... probably why the thread is still open, despite everything... Keith Diaz5She opened it, then asked to close it...

First off, nobody was insulting anyone else here except you, ambermason16—you were just going down the list, picking on every single woman who actually had the nerve to question your work...
Look, I’m saying this again—this isn't about the characters in the show or anyone's right to an opinion... it's about how this thread is being run—who gets to say what and who doesn't...

I wouldn't call that enthusiasm... highly debatable... Everyone... Because of the Little one's disappearance from the thread—unless you don't count yourself and your own crowd as part of "everyone"...
It would be nice if someone above ambermason16 actually looked into Jonathan Martinez11's posts—and the real reasons he was kicked out...
Anyway, Little one's vocabulary is way better than Jack's... if only Little one had the same kind of power around here.
Just so there's no confusion—I have no clue who Jonathan Martinez11 actually is. I've run into her on this thread before... we didn't always see eye to eye, but we had some decent discussions... I really respect her persistence when she was calling out those unacceptable comments—you know, the ones about men having a "right" to rape women because they're just taking what belongs to them, or how they should be clenching their fists more often... And wouldn't you know it—not a single official from this forum has stepped up to tell people making those kinds of comments exactly where to shove it... Those authors are still posting on the topic—but Jonathan Martinez11 isn't. Unbelievable, right...

I’m still calling for ambermason16 to be punished—they're breaking the rules by insulting other members...
I need those folks above ambermason16 to speak up...I’m not putting up with insults—I’m not some dog that's just gonna bark at everyone... I don't make things up, I don't lie, and I definitely don't slander people. Especially not when it comes to spreading trash...
If this is just Jack's private venting session—and apparently she's allowed to talk to people like that—then please just delete me from the member list... I don't want my handle showing up in a place where the Moderators treat users this way.
Just because we spoke up in that open thread about the issues we've been dealing with for a while now...

And finally, one last thing—there’s this one comment from the spoiler thread that really caught my eye. It perfectly captures the whole vibe of the Force theme we've been complaining about here... It's from a user who, as far as I know, isn't even a regular around here—doesn't post much, doesn't get into the usual shouting matches. And mind you, it's not just this one single comment...

;44695557 said:Where have you butterflies been...
Kerimboran I agree, there's a healthy vibe going on here... pffft, I knew where I’d end up 😁... did a little scouting and landed right here. As for the main topic... look, I follow whatever opinions I can—agreeing with some, disagreeing with others. I try to use my vocabulary to subtly prove I'm right if I can't do it otherwise (not my fault, obviously). I never attack anyone directly, but if someone comes at me first in a way I can't accept, I'll fight back immediately... But anyway, I have to comment on something pretty interesting happening in the main thread because I just finished reading through it. I don't get how someone spends so much time commenting on a series when they aren't even rooting for the lead couple—they're actually pushing for a divorce instead. Like, they aren't enjoying the romance at all; if anything, it just frustrates them. You choose a show to unwind after a long day, yet somehow you can't stand the protagonist—who basically carries 70% of the show 🤷. Pretty weird . It's not just that you don't like the leads in moderation; you straight-up despise them. I was honestly surprised by how much of an anti-Force atmosphere is building up over there. I've listed her thousand flaws here myself, which is different, but overall I get it... more or less...

I’m still calling for ambermason16 to be penalized—insulting other members is a clear violation of the rules here...

ambermason16 said:🤣 thanks for this post. You just did me a bigger favor than if you’d declared me the greatest moderator in history.

And just so we have this on the record: I have zero clue who you actually are, other than being that person giggling in every thread about how you're the luckiest little Smurf alive because you got unbanned thirty minutes ago and swore eternal loyalty to the admins. So, you can relax—I couldn't care less about "your every move." It's about as exciting to me as watching a local high school wrestling match.

It’s funny how you people act so important, thinking you have the right to insult and spit on forum users, mods, and admins. You're terrified of the staff, yet here you are playing the lady. But the second someone gives you the feedback you actually deserve, you're absolutely mortified. Apparently, you think we should all be bowing to the floor, treating every bit of your slanderous nonsense with humble, quiet respect.

Oh, and by the way, force doesn't exist... the guy is stuck at the soap factory, which is closing down in a few days anyway. Bummer.

I’m asking the responsible people on this forum to stop official staff from insulting our members.

I'm not some character from a Dove commercial, and I'm certainly not a dog—so I don't bark, and my way of speaking isn't "nonsense."

If this is how a Moderator is supposed to talk to users, then good luck to you.
I knew I was right—the moderators are at fault. Not all of them, obviously, but some are constantly trying to paint themselves in the best light.
Who are the admins here anyway? I don't know a single one, nor have I had the "honor" of talking to them. I don't see why I'd be afraid. I'm not scared of anyone here... because I haven't done anything wrong.

Speaking of admins, do they even read what the moderators post?
Do they actually agree with the way ambermason16 communicates?

If we aren't allowed to talk about things we find problematic, then this whole thread is pointless.

It's obvious this thread was necessary—even the title shows what the actual issue is: the moderator's conduct, not some soap opera character that the mods are trying to pivot toward—or at least, that's what they want to do.

Gerald Bailey88 said:tsk, tsk,...not reading again. I left seven days ago, dear ambermason16. All because of you and your arrogance. It’s honestly pathetic how you claim the twenty of you don't understand what's being said here. Anyone (who actually watches Force) who heads over to the main thread knows—or will know—exactly what we're talking about.
And everyone following the spoilers knows too.
It’s a joke. Only the moderators at the soap factory are clueless.
We know you don't get it. We've felt it, seen it, realized it, understood it... we just know.
As for that little group, they aren't some phantom entity (Xavi8 signed off🙂:
MAO: @ tragoreski, @ivancica, @AKIF ve @Xavka. Personal assistants: @aginica,@ moribonda ve @teuta. PR: inarak84!
Basically, an official office—they split up the shifts and duties, and they coordinate through DMs and directly on the thread.
The fact that they called themselves the lawyers for the actor and the character clearly shows they're all ganging up on the actress and the role she plays. If I hadn't read it myself, I wouldn't believe it. That's why there isn't even a single fan of Cansu on this thread.

You really posted this note in the wrong place. It belongs on the Force thread—this little group treats the main character (who is a woman with a heart of gold) worse than the absolute villain of the series.
You're right about one thing, Force is a character from a soap opera. Maybe this forum is a soap opera, but trust me, we aren't characters in one.
Take care, ambermason16. 😍

Daniel Ward87 said:See, that’s the issue we face as admins. I’ve gone back through this thread several times and I’m still struggling to pin down the actual problem. From what I can gather, here’s the gist:
- there are cliques forming over at the soap factory
- moderators are protecting these supposed cliques by only deleting certain posts
- people are complaining about spoilers ruining the series
- there’s talk about force rape (hopefully just in the show) and how posts endorsing it haven't been removed
- some users stopped posting in one thread only to pop up in another...

Here’s my take: whether those cliques actually exist at the soap factory is really just a matter of perspective. To the moderators there, every single user is treated exactly the same. They don't recognize any cliques, nor do they side with any group—real or imagined.

As for everything else, I’m going to need some concrete examples, because right now, I have no idea what we're actually being asked to do.

There are literal cliques running the Force thread—they’ve openly coordinated right there in public, bragging about how great their PR is (we all know who’s pulling those strings) and praising the lawyer. You can see them listed in the signatures and under the avatars... They even go as far as warning each other about private messages and coordinating their shifts. All happening right on the main board...
Don't ask me to go digging up those links for you. What were your moderators even doing while all that was being written? Let them find it—they're right there...
Of course the mods are protecting this group—they haven't sanctioned anyone yet...
If there were any cases, they were rare—but honestly, we got flooded with reports about people spoiling things without actually watching... just constant complaints...
It’s not even that the posts got deleted—maybe they were—but rather that nobody is actually punishing this kind of writing...
Personally, I stopped posting on the Sila threads because of how the moderators act... just can't deal with it.
The other girls who used to hang out in the Force thread have all bailed—now they just post in the spoiler section. (Not saying we’re all leaving for the same reason). They don't feel welcome here anymore, and honestly, I blame the mods...

Isn't it weird how only the group members and their supporters are left on this thread—aside from the exceptions, Gerald Hill2 and Keith Diaz5...

Look, I might be wrong. I might be misinterpreting things—my views don't have to be everyone's cup of tea... But the rudeness, the arrogance, that whole attitude? It’s an insult, and I won't stand for it—especially not from people representing this forum. I don't want to be unfair to moderators who actually deserve respect, so this strictly applies to ambermason16 and, maybe, just a little less to Bheu. The way they treat people here is way below any standard of decent communication. They shouldn't be acting so obnoxious and dismissive when people are just trying to post a complaint, a suggestion, or a simple feedback thread...

You guys need to actually pay attention to this thread—start punishing the group members just as hard as anyone who disagrees with them, because right now you aren't... Worst part is they’re straight up making stuff up—writing about things that never even happened in the series and twisting everything...
How should we call this? A provocation, or just plain lying to other users?
The second I mentioned that it’s basically the same thing as spoilers, I got banned.

Isn't it weird how the opinions on the Force thread are totally different from what's being spoiled? Just compare the comments for the same episodes... Look at how many people with different views you've kicked out or driven away. You're the reason for such a massive divide.
We're asking you to stop users from ganging up to provoke others and mess with everyone trying to participate in the thread.
That's it.

Comparing rape to spoilers. Terrifying...

If this wasn't so pathetic, I’d actually be laughing my head off.
Out of everything we've discussed, you're the only one who managed to focus on the most insignificant detail...
Not a single word about the blatant misogyny—how you guys let people post justifications for force rape, acting like "He" was just taking what was rightfully his.
The authors of those disgusting comments are still here, yet the woman who stood up against them got kicked out of the thread. We're complaining because you won't sanction such primitive behavior, while you target and shut down anyone who refuses to tolerate it. Honestly, it says everything about you.

And nothing about how you're accusing me of threatening to break rules—even though I never said anything like that... nothing at all.
By your logic, it's fine when users gang up to provoke anyone with a different opinion, but it's a crime if they make up stuff that didn't even happen in the show.
You want proof? It's all right here in the thread—just try reading it sometime. But apparently, that's too much to ask since ambermason16 openly admits she doesn't read, yet she's allowed to snap back at me like this.
Do you guys honestly think you're infallible?
Just look at the spoilers thread for comparison. The difference is night and day. The atmosphere there is great, the comments are actually constructive. Not a single one of those women is posting on the main thread anymore—and it's easy enough to see they were active before.

It would be about time the moderators started treating members with basic decency, the same way you expect from us—because the way ambermason16 aggressively talks back isn't exactly a role model.
I get it, your job isn't easy. But since you're always telling us to leave the thread, maybe you should take your own advice. If it's too much work, just step down from moderating...
I knew from the start you'd ignore whatever you don't want to see, and that talking to you is a lost cause. Because you simply don't want to listen.
I'm done adding anything else. Go ahead and attack me too, just like you have been—which is exactly why I'm walking away from this thread. Since ambermason16 was so "helpful" in suggesting it.

tsk, tsk,...not reading again. I left seven days ago, dear ambermason16. All because of you and your arrogance. It’s honestly pathetic how you claim the twenty of you don't understand what's being said here. Anyone (who actually watches Force) who heads over to the main thread knows—or will know—exactly what we're talking about.
And everyone following the spoilers knows too.
It’s a joke. Only the moderators at the soap factory are clueless.
We know you don't get it. We've felt it, seen it, realized it, understood it... we just know.
As for that little group, they aren't some phantom entity (Xavi8 signed off🙂:
MAO: @ tragoreski, @ivancica, @AKIF ve @Xavka. Personal assistants: @aginica,@ moribonda ve @teuta. PR: inarak84!
Basically, an official office—they split up the shifts and duties, and they coordinate through DMs and directly on the thread.
The fact that they called themselves the lawyers for the actor and the character clearly shows they're all ganging up on the actress and the role she plays. If I hadn't read it myself, I wouldn't believe it. That's why there isn't even a single fan of Cansu on this thread.

You really posted this note in the wrong place. It belongs on the Force thread—this little group treats the main character (who is a woman with a heart of gold) worse than the absolute villain of the series.
You're right about one thing, Force is a character from a soap opera. Maybe this forum is a soap opera, but trust me, we aren't characters in one.
Take care, ambermason16. 😍

Keith Diaz5You're spot on. Sadly, you're just wasting your breath—the whole organized group has the moderators backing them up. You can see it in how they punish anyone who speaks up against comments like "she got what was coming to her" regarding a guy being aggressive toward a woman, or that garbage about "he just took what was his" when talking about force rape... it's all the same...
No matter how many times people pointed out those comments and acted disgusted—the one person who actually spoke up about it got banned, while the actual trolls just keep posting... typical.
It’s honestly pathetic that you don't get anything at all, ambermason16. It's pretty sad you're coming at me with this tone—I didn't even do anything to trigger it... I guess I should just be grateful you haven't started prescribing medication online too, since apparently that's just how you handle people here—not that you actually have the authority to do that anyway. Why am I even surprised anymore...

For example, my comment:
I can't believe people actually fall for this stuff—it’s honestly embarrassing... if you don't see through the nonsense by now, you're just lost. Just common sense, really.

Like Blood Dim—who wouldn't have been able to read this anywhere else...

Blood Dim... said:Look, this whole post of yours—it's just pure spite, and honestly, it doesn't fly anywhere... You can't just claim you're going to break the rules just because someone else decided to ignore them.

It’s honestly pathetic that all you see is some personal attack—you just keep belittling everyone on this forum instead of actually engaging...
That’s exactly why I bailed on this thread seven days ago—and as you can see, ambermason16 thinks "that" just means the mods are biased and doing a terrible job handling the Force topic... You're wrong about point three, though...

You’re commenting without even reading the post—making all these bad calls just because you can't stand me... and you won't be seeing me around this thread anytime soon anyway. You're only right about that one thing...

ambermason16 said:Just another page full of empty buzzwords... don't even need to read it to know exactly what you wrote...

The mods are biased...
So many people are jumping off this thread just because of that—though "that" is never actually defined...
You probably feel the same way—so what's stopping you from showing up in the thread tonight...

Everything's been answered so many times already—honestly don't even see the point in saying another word...

Keith Diaz5 Gerald Hill2 was targeted for no reason—it was just a coordinated hit by that little group disguised as "random rain"... Everyone else moved over to the spoiler threads just so they can talk without worrying about getting jumped by haters. You can easily look back at what those women used to post on the main board versus how they only show up in spoilers now. They even bring it up themselves in their comments...
So now everything is just perfect—everyone’s happy, everyone agrees, everyone’s just chatting away and acting like they love each other to death... constant little trips being planned, all this fake stuff about how things "should" be, and they never miss an opportunity to mention how stupid the Force is... oh, and that actress is a moron too...
Pure bliss...
The only issue is that it’s got nothing to do with that show airing on FOX at 9...

Way to go, mods and admins... seriously, great job!!!!