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Keith Diaz5 said:??
Is that really what I wrote to you all?

To be completely blunt and transparent;
there have been all sorts of comments on this thread (the girls have already quoted them) saying things like she deserved it, she's an idiot, she got what was coming to her, he endures more than anyone else... (honestly, I can't even repeat some of it)
And then there's my comment stating that only women who are just like that, if not worse, would write such things.
I didn't see that those of you who spoke up here actually wrote that. Nor did I mention you or those forum members specifically. I don't deal in that; it is absolutely beneath me.
And the insults toward Boran? 🤣 What can I say... I just continued in a review-style tone on the thread, simply pivoting to someone who isn't even being honored here... just trying to add a little nuance to the whole situation.🤣

I am writing about the constant repetition of the same old thing on this thread, especially when the script isn't even remotely on Boran's side (even though I like him much more than the Force) yet nobody (well, almost nobody, it reminded me of the folks over at Soho 🙏) who have already picked sides will admit it. That's why, to me, this whole thing feels unrealistic, forced, and exhausting to read.

mistytrucker15 wrote what she wrote, and I received my answers. It seems to me you're all just being stubborn for the sake of it. It's not stubbornness toward the Force, nor is it toward me... it's directed at one of the forum members who insulted you in one way or another.
Unfortunately, for those of us who aren't involved in that drama, it isn't sympathetic or interesting; it's just incomprehensible and draining.


Just another phrase I tend to hear from the hysterical, uneducated crowd—the usual suspects, really.

Keith Diaz5 said:??
Is that really what I wrote to you all?

To be completely blunt and transparent;
there have been all sorts of comments on this thread (the girls have already quoted them) saying things like she deserved it, she's an idiot, she got what was coming to her, he endures more than anyone else... (honestly, I can't even repeat some of it)
And then there's my comment stating that only women who are just like that, if not worse, would write such things.
I didn't see that those of you who spoke up here actually wrote that. Nor did I mention you or those forum members specifically. I don't deal in that; it is absolutely beneath me.
And the insults toward Boran? 🤣 What can I say... I just continued in a review-style tone on the thread, simply pivoting to someone who isn't even being honored here... just trying to add a little nuance to the whole situation.🤣

I am writing about the constant repetition of the same old thing on this thread, especially when the script isn't even remotely on Boran's side (even though I like him much more than the Force) yet nobody (well, almost nobody, it reminded me of the folks over at Soho 🙏) who have already picked sides will admit it. That's why, to me, this whole thing feels unrealistic, forced, and exhausting to read.

mistytrucker15 wrote what she wrote, and I received my answers. It seems to me you're all just being stubborn for the sake of it. It's not stubbornness toward the Force, nor is it toward me... it's directed at one of the forum members who insulted you in one way or another.
Unfortunately, for those of us who aren't involved in that drama, it isn't sympathetic or interesting; it's just incomprehensible and draining.

You mentioned that under the conspiracy: Some women, those women—just certain types of people.
We aren't stupid—we know exactly what the author was trying to say.
It looks like the Moderators knew all along—they just scrubbed it.
And how exactly do you think you know which version of me you're dealing with—this one, or that one?
Where exactly do you get the right to sit there and run analyses on me—or my persona, for that matter?
It’s funny—you get all worked up over some fictional drama, yet you turn around and write exactly what you write in your own posts.

Keith Diaz5 said:??
Is that really what I wrote to you all?

To be completely blunt and transparent;
there have been all sorts of comments on this thread (the girls have already quoted them) saying things like she deserved it, she's an idiot, she got what was coming to her, he endures more than anyone else... (honestly, I can't even repeat some of it)
And then there's my comment stating that only women who are just like that, if not worse, would write such things.
I didn't see that those of you who spoke up here actually wrote that. Nor did I mention you or those forum members specifically. I don't deal in that; it is absolutely beneath me.
And the insults toward Boran? 🤣 What can I say... I just continued in a review-style tone on the thread, simply pivoting to someone who isn't even being honored here... just trying to add a little nuance to the whole situation.🤣

I am writing about the constant repetition of the same old thing on this thread, especially when the script isn't even remotely on Boran's side (even though I like him much more than the Force) yet nobody (well, almost nobody, it reminded me of the folks over at Soho 🙏) who have already picked sides will admit it. That's why, to me, this whole thing feels unrealistic, forced, and exhausting to read.

mistytrucker15 wrote what she wrote, and I received my answers. It seems to me you're all just being stubborn for the sake of it. It's not stubbornness toward the Force, nor is it toward me... it's directed at one of the forum members who insulted you in one way or another.
Unfortunately, for those of us who aren't involved in that drama, it isn't sympathetic or interesting; it's just incomprehensible and draining.

Yeah, that judgmental tone... It’s funny how people always seem to be critiquing exactly what they’re jealous of themselves.
You’ve managed to screw over both us and the characters—it’s just classic. 🙂

Keith Diaz5 said:??
Is that really what I wrote to you all?

To be completely blunt and transparent;
there have been all sorts of comments on this thread (the girls have already quoted them) saying things like she deserved it, she's an idiot, she got what was coming to her, he endures more than anyone else... (honestly, I can't even repeat some of it)
And then there's my comment stating that only women who are just like that, if not worse, would write such things.
I didn't see that those of you who spoke up here actually wrote that. Nor did I mention you or those forum members specifically. I don't deal in that; it is absolutely beneath me.
And the insults toward Boran? 🤣 What can I say... I just continued in a review-style tone on the thread, simply pivoting to someone who isn't even being honored here... just trying to add a little nuance to the whole situation.🤣

I am writing about the constant repetition of the same old thing on this thread, especially when the script isn't even remotely on Boran's side (even though I like him much more than the Force) yet nobody (well, almost nobody, it reminded me of the folks over at Soho 🙏) who have already picked sides will admit it. That's why, to me, this whole thing feels unrealistic, forced, and exhausting to read.

mistytrucker15 wrote what she wrote, and I received my answers. It seems to me you're all just being stubborn for the sake of it. It's not stubbornness toward the Force, nor is it toward me... it's directed at one of the forum members who insulted you in one way or another.
Unfortunately, for those of us who aren't involved in that drama, it isn't sympathetic or interesting; it's just incomprehensible and draining.

Unrealistic and overblown—just because my take doesn't align with yours.😕

I am genuinely confused here.
Do you realize that this is my opinion—and I prioritize my own perspective above all else?

Keith Diaz5 said:??
Is that really what I wrote to you all?

To be completely blunt and transparent;
there have been all sorts of comments on this thread (the girls have already quoted them) saying things like she deserved it, she's an idiot, she got what was coming to her, he endures more than anyone else... (honestly, I can't even repeat some of it)
And then there's my comment stating that only women who are just like that, if not worse, would write such things.
I didn't see that those of you who spoke up here actually wrote that. Nor did I mention you or those forum members specifically. I don't deal in that; it is absolutely beneath me.
And the insults toward Boran? 🤣 What can I say... I just continued in a review-style tone on the thread, simply pivoting to someone who isn't even being honored here... just trying to add a little nuance to the whole situation.🤣

I am writing about the constant repetition of the same old thing on this thread, especially when the script isn't even remotely on Boran's side (even though I like him much more than the Force) yet nobody (well, almost nobody, it reminded me of the folks over at Soho 🙏) who have already picked sides will admit it. That's why, to me, this whole thing feels unrealistic, forced, and exhausting to read.

mistytrucker15 wrote what she wrote, and I received my answers. It seems to me you're all just being stubborn for the sake of it. It's not stubbornness toward the Force, nor is it toward me... it's directed at one of the forum members who insulted you in one way or another.
Unfortunately, for those of us who aren't involved in that drama, it isn't sympathetic or interesting; it's just incomprehensible and draining.

Right, because we spend all day being difficult just to spite some random person. As if we don't have anything better to do with our lives.
Or maybe we're just doing it for some imaginary character... It’s pathetic when people can't hold their own views. 😢
Insulted? Please—very little about people actually surprises me anymore.

Keith Diaz5 said:??
Is that really what I wrote to you all?

To be completely blunt and transparent;
there have been all sorts of comments on this thread (the girls have already quoted them) saying things like she deserved it, she's an idiot, she got what was coming to her, he endures more than anyone else... (honestly, I can't even repeat some of it)
And then there's my comment stating that only women who are just like that, if not worse, would write such things.
I didn't see that those of you who spoke up here actually wrote that. Nor did I mention you or those forum members specifically. I don't deal in that; it is absolutely beneath me.
And the insults toward Boran? 🤣 What can I say... I just continued in a review-style tone on the thread, simply pivoting to someone who isn't even being honored here... just trying to add a little nuance to the whole situation.🤣

I am writing about the constant repetition of the same old thing on this thread, especially when the script isn't even remotely on Boran's side (even though I like him much more than the Force) yet nobody (well, almost nobody, it reminded me of the folks over at Soho 🙏) who have already picked sides will admit it. That's why, to me, this whole thing feels unrealistic, forced, and exhausting to read.

mistytrucker15 wrote what she wrote, and I received my answers. It seems to me you're all just being stubborn for the sake of it. It's not stubbornness toward the Force, nor is it toward me... it's directed at one of the forum members who insulted you in one way or another.
Unfortunately, for those of us who aren't involved in that drama, it isn't sympathetic or interesting; it's just incomprehensible and draining.

Just as I find it neither charming nor interesting to watch users repeatedly insult one another just to defend some fictional persona.
And I find it just as uninteresting to read claims that I'm jealous of Force lying on Agatha's torso. 🤣 😂
Frankly, reading the comments about how much "size" someone has—and implying that I or others are getting worked up over wanting to be pressed against them—was utterly repulsive.
Of course, you didn't react to posts like that.

I'll leave you with this:
Kudos to the Moderators. My deepest respect and a tip of the hat to them—they are the true heroes here.
Go ahead, let the insults fly: flatterer, suck-up, blowhard, or whatever fourth option you have in mind. Maybe I was just distracted by some guy's physique, huh? 🤔 Maybe I'm just in love with ambermason16 or Beau 😲 (Jack, don't take this seriously 😁 )
I assure you, I am not a fictional character. 🙂
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Keith Diaz5 said:Dear Xavier, I have already been penalized for those two posts, and I know exactly why.
Did you actually read what I wrote?

Yes, I read it. But I singled you out specifically because of your opening post on this thread.
You spend all this time accusing us of hating the Force character, claiming we’re biased or whatever—it's exhausting.
Basically, you’re defending a fictional character, acting disgusted that someone else doesn't like him, and in the process, you end up insulting another character—and honestly, the users here too.
I’m just trying to figure out which specific post of mine actually broke the rules—since I haven't been penalized for those yet.
I’m attempting to understand what the actual grievance is, especially when this example shows how some of you treat other characters exactly the same way—while the regular users get caught in the crossfire.
I don't care for the Heroine Force character; that’s my opinion, my perspective. It shouldn't be this difficult to accept that Person A, Person B, and Person C see things differently—we don't all view life, or even the show, through the same lens. Or are we all supposed to think exactly alike now? 🤷
I’m struggling to grasp how and when a fictional character became more important than actual people—and our actual feelings.
Did you ever stop to consider how it feels for any of us to read posts where we're labeled as being unhinged, masochistic, hysterical, or unintelligent? (And thank God there are lawyers, economists, and doctors among us—how could we possibly be that dim?) Did you even try to put yourself in the shoes of the real people reading your words? Or is defending a fictional character against so-called "attacks" more important to you than treating the rest of us with basic decency?
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Keith Diaz5 I don't have anything against you personally—really. This is a public forum, and if someone decides to call me out, I can't just sit there and take it; I’ll step in and respond.

What you’ve laid out isn't exactly building an altar to the Force—nor is it a direct insult to it—but it certainly feels like a slap in the face to us women on these forums.

I’m taking her side—mostly because I don't have any other option left. My stomach can only take so much—just endless reading about what a total airhead she is, or what a hysterical bitch, or how completely brainless she acts. I guess I'll just leave it at that. Just another phrase I hear constantly from the hysterical, uneducated crowd—people who clearly lack any sense of perspective.
I don't talk about people like that in my actual life—honestly, I usually just tune out when I run into stuff like this.

What a contradiction—a total paradox, really.
So you claim to despise insulting fictional characters—you find the whole idea of disrespecting them repulsive—yet in that very same post, you turn around and tell the other members: Hysterical, mindless—and things of that nature. Of course—everything is being blamed on that one woman, that single individual—as if we're all too dim to realize exactly who she is.
I suppose I have to defend this fictional character—not that anyone here actually cares for the truth—but some things are worth standing by, even if the rest of you just want to stir the pot.
And don't go talking about anyone like that in real life—though, to be fair, you did just write exactly what you said above.

Dalje nastavljaš:

Honestly, it’s just exhausting—beyond draining, really. It’s exhausting—really—reading about the same old faces and the same tired stories over and over again.
I have to hand it to those women who get so deeply invested in obsessing over one specific character—it’s almost impressive how they manage to make that their entire personality, time after time. Just pounding away at it—sort of like how I used to hammer nails back in my old workshop days—just keeping at it. It’s all the same thing—really.

Well, then you write (this is regarding a fictional character)—

I'm taking her side—honestly. I honestly don't have the stomach for reading nothing but endless complaints about how much of a fool she is—or which hysterical bitch is being unintelligent today.

Then you should just write:
Agatha has completely lost all credibility in my eyes after that whole mess with Emre—she really showed her true colors there. Raw material. Mardinska—it’s going to be hard to ever look at him the same way again.

So, you aren't defending the insults thrown at one fictional character—instead, you're just insulting the forum members and another fictional character in the process. Or perhaps you'll claim that calling people hysterical, moronic, or pure unrefined nonsense isn't actually an insult. Typical.😕

And then there are our rules, which state the following:

Just trolling, gaslighting, and... Personal attacks of any kind—no matter the reason—are strictly prohibited. Don't bother returning fire when people start throwing insults—it’s just not worth the energy. Just leave the heavy lifting to the Moderators.

  1. Everyone’s perspective is welcome here—even if you happen to disagree with the consensus or need to call out a mistake or a questionable move. Just keep it civil; please refrain from insults, intolerance, or intentionally stirring the pot just because you hold a different view.
  2. Respect other people's perspectives. Just because you're a fan of a certain character or work doesn't mean everyone else feels the same way—they don't. Please stop reporting well-reasoned posts just because their only "flaw" is that they disagree with you. Any attempt to bully or attack someone for having a different opinion on this forum—on any topic—will be met with the strictest penalties.

You're accusing us of making things up or being biased simply because we don't share YOUR exact views. Well, you wrote what you wrote, and that's your prerogative.
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Jonathan Martinez11 said:I completely agree with everything Keith Diaz5, Gerald Bailey88 and matriksica wrote. And dear Moderator, I’m not being arrogant; I am simply bitter, primarily because of how you treat those of us who are actually the reason you have a job. If we weren't here, you wouldn't exist, and this forum wouldn't even be making money from ads. So, instead of insulting us, if we happen to have a specific complaint or question, the basic rule should be to show at least a minimum amount of decency toward every user rather than resorting to insults—especially since we just dared to suggest that something isn't right.

Believe me, dear, in the company where I earn my bread, I always treat customers the way you treat us. If I did, my boss would have given me a huge thank you a long time ago. Every single complaint a customer makes requires a well-reasoned explanation, and we always apologize; usually, we aren't even in the wrong, but the customer is always right. That is the fundamental rule. Even if I were some high-ranking commissioner or whatever you want to call me, you wouldn't give me a warning or ban me; you'd just call us old ladies who can't tell fiction from reality, etc.

The whole time, I've been trying to get an answer as to why I received a partial penalty, but I can't get one because I don't ask my questions humbly enough. Then I got banned from a thread due to spoilers, and Moderator Bea says she gets a mountain of reports that are all baseless. Then you swoop in behind that and start claiming I'm breaking whatever rules, acting like the spoiler wasn't even a big deal. It makes me wonder who is actually crazy here, who is sane, and who is being the arrogant, rude one acting like a self-appointed commissioner.

Regarding the Force thread, the issue isn't really that some people don't like the character Force; the biggest problem is that you allow sexist outbursts to drag on constantly alongside the dislike for Force. Some are relatively benign, like people acting like they're high-powered businesswomen when they're actually just stay-at-home moms, while others are much worse, like saying a husband should only take what is his.

I am asking you most politely to visit the Force spoilers thread and read all the messages directed at me. I don't see anyone there suggesting I'm acting like a commissioner, but I do see people being rude to me—and especially you, acting from a position of authority, as if you're the stronger party. I certainly won't stay silent; I will respond, and I'll try not to be arrogant or rude, though I don't think I ever use the vocabulary that you do.

Blood Bank
and I used to get along quite well with everyone on the "How Time Flies" thread, so I only have issues with a small number of forum members who create a new username on every single thread just to repeat the same behavior. On one thread it's Ace62, on another it's Kenneth Cruz73, depending on the need, and now they've even gained support from a Moderator.

Since you wrote that my partial penalty was decided by the editorial board and the Administrator, I would love for each of them—those who stripped me of my constitutional right to freedom of speech and opinion—to write to me explaining exactly why they did it and which rule I supposedly broke, other than the fact that certain users report me whenever they feel like it, which Moderator Bea claims is baseless.

I don't understand the forum hierarchy, but I assume one exists, likely consisting of the Administrators. So, once again, I ask: how do you allow a Moderator to insult users like this? These aren't characters from a soap opera; we are real people made of flesh and blood, and this kind of behavior is truly unacceptable. If someone here acts like an offended socialite, then it's the Moderator Jack, who starts her little torture sessions everywhere she feels she isn't being bowed down to. This started with the Passion Orient thread, which was locked the very second the TV showed the end, just because the girls rebelled—even though they proved what a great group they are through their private chats and hanging out off-topic.

On the Force thread, it has become even worse, and I don't know about other threads because I just don't have the time to check, but I see constant complaints everywhere. Instead of anything changing, things just keep getting worse and worse, and fewer and fewer people are posting on all the threads. Pretty soon, you won't even have anything left to moderate.


Hold on a second, Jonathan Martinez11... I’m a bit confused now—essentially, we're talking about the fundamental right to freedom of speech and opinion. 🤔
Some people think a woman should devote herself more to her child—well, if that's their opinion, so be it.
Regarding the intake—I’ve already explained this to you and asked that you clearly state who, what, where, how, and when. I simply can't do it myself—nor will I allow anyone to drag me into these disputes or let some angry mob slap labels on me personally.

Jonathan Martinez11 said:I completely agree with everything Keith Diaz5, Gerald Bailey88 and matriksica wrote. And dear Moderator, I’m not being arrogant; I am simply bitter, primarily because of how you treat those of us who are actually the reason you have a job. If we weren't here, you wouldn't exist, and this forum wouldn't even be making money from ads. So, instead of insulting us, if we happen to have a specific complaint or question, the basic rule should be to show at least a minimum amount of decency toward every user rather than resorting to insults—especially since we just dared to suggest that something isn't right.

Believe me, dear, in the company where I earn my bread, I always treat customers the way you treat us. If I did, my boss would have given me a huge thank you a long time ago. Every single complaint a customer makes requires a well-reasoned explanation, and we always apologize; usually, we aren't even in the wrong, but the customer is always right. That is the fundamental rule. Even if I were some high-ranking commissioner or whatever you want to call me, you wouldn't give me a warning or ban me; you'd just call us old ladies who can't tell fiction from reality, etc.

The whole time, I've been trying to get an answer as to why I received a partial penalty, but I can't get one because I don't ask my questions humbly enough. Then I got banned from a thread due to spoilers, and Moderator Bea says she gets a mountain of reports that are all baseless. Then you swoop in behind that and start claiming I'm breaking whatever rules, acting like the spoiler wasn't even a big deal. It makes me wonder who is actually crazy here, who is sane, and who is being the arrogant, rude one acting like a self-appointed commissioner.

Regarding the Force thread, the issue isn't really that some people don't like the character Force; the biggest problem is that you allow sexist outbursts to drag on constantly alongside the dislike for Force. Some are relatively benign, like people acting like they're high-powered businesswomen when they're actually just stay-at-home moms, while others are much worse, like saying a husband should only take what is his.

I am asking you most politely to visit the Force spoilers thread and read all the messages directed at me. I don't see anyone there suggesting I'm acting like a commissioner, but I do see people being rude to me—and especially you, acting from a position of authority, as if you're the stronger party. I certainly won't stay silent; I will respond, and I'll try not to be arrogant or rude, though I don't think I ever use the vocabulary that you do.

Blood Bank
and I used to get along quite well with everyone on the "How Time Flies" thread, so I only have issues with a small number of forum members who create a new username on every single thread just to repeat the same behavior. On one thread it's Ace62, on another it's Kenneth Cruz73, depending on the need, and now they've even gained support from a Moderator.

Since you wrote that my partial penalty was decided by the editorial board and the Administrator, I would love for each of them—those who stripped me of my constitutional right to freedom of speech and opinion—to write to me explaining exactly why they did it and which rule I supposedly broke, other than the fact that certain users report me whenever they feel like it, which Moderator Bea claims is baseless.

I don't understand the forum hierarchy, but I assume one exists, likely consisting of the Administrators. So, once again, I ask: how do you allow a Moderator to insult users like this? These aren't characters from a soap opera; we are real people made of flesh and blood, and this kind of behavior is truly unacceptable. If someone here acts like an offended socialite, then it's the Moderator Jack, who starts her little torture sessions everywhere she feels she isn't being bowed down to. This started with the Passion Orient thread, which was locked the very second the TV showed the end, just because the girls rebelled—even though they proved what a great group they are through their private chats and hanging out off-topic.

On the Force thread, it has become even worse, and I don't know about other threads because I just don't have the time to check, but I see constant complaints everywhere. Instead of anything changing, things just keep getting worse and worse, and fewer and fewer people are posting on all the threads. Pretty soon, you won't even have anything left to moderate.

It’s frankly unacceptable—as a real person with actual emotions—that I'm being targeted with these insults. Being told I'm some desperate person who only cares about certain physical attributes or that I'd do anything just for a moment of intimacy—or worse, that I enjoy being treated roughly—is beyond the pale. I was forced to read all of this.Why didn't you step up back then, Jonathan Martinez11—or maybe I'm just a flesh-and-blood human who doesn't qualify for protection, while some fictional character gets all the exclusive rights? Perhaps I just didn't meet the required standards for being "at risk."

*****

So, we've all converged here to defend ambermason16—even though she spent the last few weeks blowing up my inbox, begging me to protect her from everyone else because she apparently can't hold her own. Typical. 🙂
I took quite a bit of grief from Jack personally—getting banned and being called arrogant and all—but as it turns out, I just fell for him at first sight.😍 😁
I'm honestly thrilled about Jonathan Martinez11 getting banned... really. I spent four days straight dancing around at a local festival—just exhausted myself—and now I come back to this? I can hardly believe what I'm reading. ☕

Regarding that spoiler post: I have every right to watch whatever I want, whenever I feel like it—it’s my time. I decide which characters I care about and which ones I don't. Just because I'm watching the show doesn't mean I'm obligated to root for the main couple. It's a personal matter, plain and simple.
What exactly are we expecting from the Moderators—to implement some kind of rule making it a punishable offense if you don't worship the Heroine Force? 😕Why does everyone feel the need to worship this guy—just because Cansa is playing her role? 🤷
I honestly can’t believe some of the things I’m reading here.
The biggest issue in this place is that someone actually thinks they have the right to label me as biased or judge my character... Well, even if I am being subjective, what of it? Am I going to get banned by the Moderator for having an opinion?
The fundamental problem is that people refuse to accept that Person A might see things differently than Person B. Instead, any dissenting view from Person A is immediately branded as making things up, being lazy, or some other nonsense about attacking someone's gender.
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I don't usually weigh in on threads like this—not that I have anything specific to complain about.
So I got banned once; big deal. My posts get reported constantly, too—so what?
It’s up to the mods to decide if I’m actually breaking any rules here.
I’m not about to start a drama over it. Personally, I never click that little report triangle, nor will I start now—that’s just not my style, which the mods can easily verify.🙂

It’s pretty easy to see how the show "Force" lost its audience—specifically when the women started migrating away from the thread right after one particular user made her first post there.☕ Most of them moved over to the "Mercy" thread.
The "Force" topic—at least based on my understanding of the rules for this subforum, the "soap factory" section—is meant for discussing the show and its plot.
Sure, people speculate about "what if" scenarios sometimes, but isn't that just part of watching a drama? It’s natural to wonder.🤷 There was plenty of that back-and-forth from almost everyone on the board...
Everyone picks their side. Some chose the character in "Force," some chose Boran, and others—under the guise of "I'm for both"—write long rants just to tear one character down.
At the end of the day, he’s a fictional character. Writing something negative about him doesn't carry the same weight as attacking actual women—real people made of flesh and blood. Yet, you see posts claiming we’re all just mindless followers who only support the lead because he’s well-endowed, telling us to look in a mirror and get a grip.
Should I mention that nobody bothered to start a thread defending the users? Of course not. We aren't fictional characters; anyone can insult us whenever they feel like it, but apparently, the mods feel the need to step in immediately when a fictional character gets criticized.
Organized groups?
Give me a break. That claim is completely baseless. Everyone knows what an organized group is and what they're actually for.
No one "organized" anything; it was just some banter between a few of us who happen to be lawyers by trade. Nothing more.☕
As for my signature—I keep seeing myself being labeled as the leader of some "organized group" in every single complaint thread. 🤣 Honestly, as if I were don Vito Corleone 🤔... I can write whatever I want in my signature; if it violated the site rules, the mods would have handled it.
Regarding PMs, yes, we use private messages, and of course, we can chat there.
We coordinate our shifts 🤷—but how is anyone supposed to know that if we’re doing it through private messages?
And no, we aren't coordinating anything. I refuse to be part of something like that. I once made a joke and wrote, "I'm on duty on this thread today," and I can't believe how badly that was misinterpreted. I just meant I was the only one online.
For God's sake, does anyone actually think we hate a fictional character?
Since I see it’s bothering you, Darling, I’ll take my signature down... But I’m telling you, there are no clans or organizations here. It's absurd; there's no need for it. My opinion isn't a manifesto for a group or a clique; it's just mine. Sure, you'll find people who agree, but that doesn't mean they belong to some secret society.
Opinions change—unless that’s against the rules now?
I've changed mine. Watching the show and discussing it here has actually shifted my perspective. That’s allowed, isn't it? That’s just life. People evolve.

Now I find myself at odds with actress Cansu Dere—and I say that with some irony, considering I used to be her biggest advocate. I spent countless hours translating her interviews and news stories just to satisfy fans like SNOB and dolcevite—which, frankly, wasn't my job, but I did it to be helpful. I even wrote posts praising her incredible range—something anyone can easily verify if they care to look.

When the discussions regarding sexual assault surfaced in the "Oriental Passions" thread, things got ugly. Not a single one of those self-proclaimed truth-seekers actually asked the mods to step in. It was just a collective grievance session over at ambermason16 😁 where everyone complained about everything under the sun. I personally asked that we stop discussing such sensitive topics in that manner, but it fell on deaf ears, so I stopped trying. I won't appeal to people's consciences anymore—I can't control how others think, anyway. (That’s also quite easy to check ☕ )
Back then, I posted this:

Comments like "she had to give in because he has the right to rape her since they're married" (to paraphrase) are the absolute peak of disgusting behavior—it's an assault on a woman's dignity and honor.
As a woman, I found those statements deeply insulting—and I'm sure many other women here felt the same way.

Like I said, nothing changed, so I gave up. You really can't lump me in with the crowd that thinks sexual violence is somehow acceptable.

What I want to know is why people take criticism of a fictional character so incredibly personally.
Why is there this desperate need to defend a character?
Is it perhaps a defense of our own personal values?
We all have our views, but does having them give us the right to police one another?
Can this "defense" go so far that it results in attacking a living human being?
Does anyone consider the emotions of those of us here—we aren't just usernames, we're flesh and blood.
M@3X and I hold completely opposite views, yet I still enjoy reading her posts. Despite our disagreements, I believe we maintain high-quality discussions.
On what basis are people claiming the mods are conspiring against someone or making backroom deals? Where is this coming from?
Look, I've dealt with my fair share of nonsense from the moderation team, so what... I took a deserved ban once.
I could never see myself joining the moderation team. I think they do the best they can with what they have.
I have never filed a complaint against the mods, nor will I ever.

I am not part of any "clique"... I reject that label. I am not in league with the moderators... I reject those insinuations. I am just an ordinary user who follows the rules of this forum.