James Miller2 said:Regarding morality, such conclusions can only be drawn on your own behalf, not on behalf of all mankind.
Without religious communities, man would struggle to find a sense of how to distinguish good from evil.
Most faiths preach peace, love, community, and forgiveness.
These are instructions for a happier life. Fantasy develops when a person refuses to engage with the world around them and stays trapped within the bubble of their own ego.
And I ask that people who have never practiced faith do not write about it. Passive observers should stay silent.
Sopdet, a believer has an authority above themselves. Someone watching and recording every thought and action.
An atheist has no one but themselves. They are "responsible" only to themselves.
That is a very dangerous territory for the development of the human spirit and soul.
Thanks for the detailed explanation.
Have you ever been a believer? Have you actually experienced what you are writing about?
Stories about seeing believers do non-religious things are nothing but old wives' tales.
You can find people like that on both "sides."
I am interested in your personal experience if you have ever been involved in this.
Then we might actually have a constructive conversation. You could present the facts that troubled you or things that didn't make sense to you.
The way you view faith is so lifeless, hollow, and purely factual.
It is all ideology, psychology, and philosophy.
If you lack the personal experience of feeling even a small amount of faith, you will never truly understand it; it will always remain within the realm of fantasy to you.
It is a different matter if you tried it and found it didn't work, or if too much remained unclear to you.
Otherwise, further discussion from my end is pointless. It would just be a waste of your energy and mine, and our precious time.
There goes that massive ego of yours again with the whole "you can't" routine. Honestly, how incredibly arrogant do you have to be to tell someone you don't even know what they can or can't do?
I can, I am, and I damn well will in the future, because I possess these data-input devices known as senses—specifically sight and hearing—which, when paired with my information processor known as the brain, give me the ability to draw logical conclusions from the world around me.
James Miller2 said:Regarding morality, such conclusions can only be drawn on your own behalf, not on behalf of all mankind.
Without religious communities, man would struggle to find a sense of how to distinguish good from evil.
Most faiths preach peace, love, community, and forgiveness.
These are instructions for a happier life. Fantasy develops when a person refuses to engage with the world around them and stays trapped within the bubble of their own ego.
And I ask that people who have never practiced faith do not write about it. Passive observers should stay silent.
Sopdet, a believer has an authority above themselves. Someone watching and recording every thought and action.
An atheist has no one but themselves. They are "responsible" only to themselves.
That is a very dangerous territory for the development of the human spirit and soul.
Thanks for the detailed explanation.
Have you ever been a believer? Have you actually experienced what you are writing about?
Stories about seeing believers do non-religious things are nothing but old wives' tales.
You can find people like that on both "sides."
I am interested in your personal experience if you have ever been involved in this.
Then we might actually have a constructive conversation. You could present the facts that troubled you or things that didn't make sense to you.
The way you view faith is so lifeless, hollow, and purely factual.
It is all ideology, psychology, and philosophy.
If you lack the personal experience of feeling even a small amount of faith, you will never truly understand it; it will always remain within the realm of fantasy to you.
It is a different matter if you tried it and found it didn't work, or if too much remained unclear to you.
Otherwise, further discussion from my end is pointless. It would just be a waste of your energy and mine, and our precious time.
And here’s another incredibly stupid and totally inaccurate mantra. Most of the evil in human history was actually committed by believers acting in the name of their own authority.
Religious groups don't actually help people distinguish right from wrong; they just force their own specific ideological version of what they want you to believe is good or bad.
James Miller2 said:Regarding morality, such conclusions can only be drawn on your own behalf, not on behalf of all mankind.
Without religious communities, man would struggle to find a sense of how to distinguish good from evil.
Most faiths preach peace, love, community, and forgiveness.
These are instructions for a happier life. Fantasy develops when a person refuses to engage with the world around them and stays trapped within the bubble of their own ego.
And I ask that people who have never practiced faith do not write about it. Passive observers should stay silent.
Sopdet, a believer has an authority above themselves. Someone watching and recording every thought and action.
An atheist has no one but themselves. They are "responsible" only to themselves.
That is a very dangerous territory for the development of the human spirit and soul.
Thanks for the detailed explanation.
Have you ever been a believer? Have you actually experienced what you are writing about?
Stories about seeing believers do non-religious things are nothing but old wives' tales.
You can find people like that on both "sides."
I am interested in your personal experience if you have ever been involved in this.
Then we might actually have a constructive conversation. You could present the facts that troubled you or things that didn't make sense to you.
The way you view faith is so lifeless, hollow, and purely factual.
It is all ideology, psychology, and philosophy.
If you lack the personal experience of feeling even a small amount of faith, you will never truly understand it; it will always remain within the realm of fantasy to you.
It is a different matter if you tried it and found it didn't work, or if too much remained unclear to you.
Otherwise, further discussion from my end is pointless. It would just be a waste of your energy and mine, and our precious time.
Yet another piece of nonsense. Religion preaches love and unity exclusively among its own kind, while simultaneously judging and persecuting anyone who thinks differently—which you just practically demonstrated with your next statement:
James Miller2 said:Regarding morality, such conclusions can only be drawn on your own behalf, not on behalf of all mankind.
Without religious communities, man would struggle to find a sense of how to distinguish good from evil.
Most faiths preach peace, love, community, and forgiveness.
These are instructions for a happier life. Fantasy develops when a person refuses to engage with the world around them and stays trapped within the bubble of their own ego.
And I ask that people who have never practiced faith do not write about it. Passive observers should stay silent.
Sopdet, a believer has an authority above themselves. Someone watching and recording every thought and action.
An atheist has no one but themselves. They are "responsible" only to themselves.
That is a very dangerous territory for the development of the human spirit and soul.
Thanks for the detailed explanation.
Have you ever been a believer? Have you actually experienced what you are writing about?
Stories about seeing believers do non-religious things are nothing but old wives' tales.
You can find people like that on both "sides."
I am interested in your personal experience if you have ever been involved in this.
Then we might actually have a constructive conversation. You could present the facts that troubled you or things that didn't make sense to you.
The way you view faith is so lifeless, hollow, and purely factual.
It is all ideology, psychology, and philosophy.
If you lack the personal experience of feeling even a small amount of faith, you will never truly understand it; it will always remain within the realm of fantasy to you.
It is a different matter if you tried it and found it didn't work, or if too much remained unclear to you.
Otherwise, further discussion from my end is pointless. It would just be a waste of your energy and mine, and our precious time.
Look, we all know how to practice believing; it's one of the most primitive cognitive processes in humans, present from birth. Little kids who don't know anything yet definitely know how to believe.
The problem is that a good portion of people, due to their own intellectual shortcomings or emotional baggage, never actually mature. They stay stuck in that primitive way of functioning well into adulthood, and when they run into more mature individuals who don't play along, they think they're somehow special or misunderstood.
It’s honestly hilarious watching believers act like faith is some unsolvable cosmic riddle. Like, man, it’s not that deep—faith is about as complex as breathing. We all know how to believe in something; the only difference is that some of us actually take the time to choose what we're putting our trust in.