Jonathan Brooks8 said:Dear rapidmaker77,
it escapes me how someone who can clearly read and write fails to grasp the context in which something is defined as discrimination. Therefore, I shall assume—given your characteristically playful writing style—that you are merely "playing" to grab the readers' attention and provoke thought, which is a positive thing.
So... what you are suggesting isn't discrimination. A prohibition isn't inherently discriminatory if that prohibition applies to everyone equally. Not every law is discriminatory. However, for instance, the racial laws enacted during the Nazi era were undeniably discriminatory.
A truly discriminatory law would be one that places a specific racial, national, or religious group in a different position regarding rights and obligations compared to all other groups.
Or, personally speaking, if I were to follow the letter of the law and fulfill all my obligations just like everyone else, yet found myself denied the rights afforded to others, then I would be discriminated against. Or, conversely, if everyone else were permitted to bypass their legal duties while I alone was forced to comply—that would also constitute discrimination.
It seems the heart of your question lies within this rabbit hole, so go ahead and shake out whatever you're holding...
Are you trying to say that everyone feels discriminated against when they aren't, just so they can claim rights they don't actually possess?
I truly cannot say.🤷
Look, if you want my help navigating this current mess, I need you to be direct. Give me the facts, lay them out clearly, and once everything is perfectly transparent, I’ll provide you with an assessment that is both concrete and fair.
Is the legal definition of marriage—stating it is a union between a man and a woman—actually a positive or constructive piece of legislation?
Even a simple pairing of a man and a woman could be viewed as discriminatory.😉 And would you personally opt to replace him?
This law? It’s a total joke. It just jumps right over the mark!
That is why I assume—and considering your signaturely whimsical way of putting things—that you deliberately grab the reader's attention and stir up the forum just to provoke some actual thought, which I find to be a positive thing.
I didn't intend to go quite that deep; I simply wanted to gain some clarity for myself, with a bit of your help.
If I were ever appointed to the Supreme Court, I would develop a rigorous methodology and a sharp intuitive sense to identify discrimination the moment it crossed my bench. 😍
What would constitute a discriminatory law? It would be any legislation that places a specific racial, national, or religious group in a different position regarding rights and obligations compared to everyone else.
Personally, if I were to strictly adhere to the letter of the law like everyone else, yet find myself being denied my basic rights in the process, that would constitute discrimination. Conversely, if the law were applied such that anyone could bypass their legal obligations while I alone was held to account, that would be just as much a violation of equality.
You tend to gravitate toward simplistic racial archetypes and broad generalizations, yet reality is far more nuanced than those surface-level principles suggest.
After all, life inherently possesses two fundamental dimensions: goodness and quality.
It’s quite simple, really: everyone has their own particular brand of indulgence. Some people find solace in a glass of bourbon, while others prefer to lose themselves in a thick novel or head out for a long trek through the Rockies.
It is common knowledge that the government supports literacy by funding public libraries, which allows us to borrow books at little to no cost.
The government offers absolutely zero support when it comes to fostering the growth of local breweries or making affordable beer more accessible to the public.
Is there an inherent bias in our society against those who enjoy a drink, compared to the supposed moral superiority of readers and hikers?🤷 Just let me know when everything finally clicks for you.
It seems your question is hiding somewhere deep within this rabbit hole, so go ahead—shake it out and let's see what you've actually got.
Are you suggesting that everyone is simply manufacturing a sense of victimhood? It seems as though people are desperate to claim they’ve been discriminated against—even when they haven't—just so they can leverage the Civil Rights Act to grab entitlements they haven't actually earned.
Of course, the logic seems perfectly clear to me, though I suspect most people are struggling to grasp it. My intention was simply to inject some clarity into the discussion and see if anyone could point out where my own reasoning might be flawed.🤷
I’ll be the first to admit I lack any real knack for philosophical definitions or playing semantic games, but I have an immediate—intuitive, visceral, let’s call it "humanist" 😍 sense of the situation...
It wouldn't make any sense within the framework of discrimination laws to whine that regulations regarding public libraries or marriage laws are discriminatory toward people who just want to drink all day, or men who prefer certain sexual acts with other men.
The question is, why aren't those specific groups considered
discriminated against? It’s because the state—society at large—functions much like any major employer would. It has DECIDED and EVALUATED what its priorities should be; it has ESTABLISHED STANDARDS
BASED ON what serves the collective interest and the greater good of the country, such as supporting readers or traditional family structures. 😍
So, when we ask whether
such standards constitute discrimination, should we turn to Socrates or Plato for an answer? 😉
Or is it already obvious to us philosophers that anything serving the common good and maintaining high societal standards is, by definition, justified? 🙂
👋