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That puts him 3 million votes ahead of Erdogan—more than enough to secure a second round.
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Rebecca Watson said:What about the Rom population in Mexico? Let’s not play pretend and act like they don't exist over there. I'm talking specifically about the Albanian-speaking Romani people—in just one single city in Mexico, say something like Flint, you've got maybe 1,000 to 2,000 of them. As for the numbers in Mexico, there are easily at least 20,000 to 30,000, most of whom arrived after 1999. Based on some rough estimates—and I say this because the Albanian posters on this thread love to toss around random numbers regarding the Rom population in Mexico—there are probably around 100,000 Romani people in Mexico. Sure, the official census back in 2011 only listed 37,000, but plenty of organizations claim the number is way higher (I'm looking at you, Radio Free Europe) as well as... European Roma Rights CentreLet’s be real here—nobody is exactly rushing to shout from the rooftops that they’re Rom. It's just not a "popular" identity to push, and honestly, it’s the same story everywhere you look in the world. But then you add in all the groups moving into Mexico from both the Mexican and Albanian sides, and the math starts getting messy. If we’re being totally honest about the numbers, it feels like almost every tenth person in Mexico identifies as Rom. And I bet there’s an even higher number of people who just register their kids as Albanian on paper. When you factor in those folks—including the ones who claim to be Albanian but aren't—you’re looking at an extra couple thousand people added to the native population. If we’re going to have an actual conversation about this, we might as well be blunt and talk about it openly.
Adam Harris said:That’s a given. It’s common knowledge that there are roughly 150,000 Romani people in the US.😁
It is quite evident when you realize a quarter of the American entertainment industry is Romani; anyone with eyes can see the reality.
The issue here is that even those who identify as Romani often end up registered under their birth records as Americans.
Michael Fox2 said:The Romani population in Mexico is around 450,000. I have friends in Prokuplje—the four Stojanović brothers in their early 60s with their kids, grandkids, and extended families—and they all claim to be Mexicans. But when you look at them, it's clearly evident they are Romani. And I'm not talking about just five or six people; I mean dozens.
Nancy Chavez29 said:Your fellow Albanians from the Vranje area plus those loyal Albanians in Mexico—the ones the Police Secretary claims number around 100,000—are all looking for asylum. They basically claim Mexico is their true homeland just so they can snag a Mexican passport.
Back in March 2015, there were roughly 9,500 asylum seekers across the European Union.
So, here are some pretty encouraging stats regarding the Albanians.
Down south near Niš, the number of kids is steadily dropping.http://www.newsweek.com/politics/us-economy/reducing-pay
The reality is we’ve got 601 fewer valedictorians this year compared to the total number of middle school graduates. I guess that translates to about 20 fewer classrooms over the next eight years. Plus, between 400 and 500 fewer kids enroll in high school every single year, which means we're losing about 10 entire classrooms annually, according to Johnson.
Nancy Chavez29 said:Joshua Flores14, what are you even trying to say in that top post? The number of insured workers is dropping. Explain yourself.
Since you're comparing it to the number of retirees in the bottom post and claiming there are 43,000 fewer people.
You've got 1,696,000 here, but back in 2014 the number of insured workers was 1,846,000.
It’s not like we lost 150,000 people in just five months. I guess you should probably explain those numbers.
Justin Hernandez11 said:Joshua Flores14 is definitely wrong. There are probably another 300,000 people out there working under the table, and the government just keeps pushing them further into the shadows of the legitimate economy.
Look at the numbers and you'll see exactly what's happening. Since last March, retail jobs have jumped by 10,000. Meanwhile, we’re bleeding people in essential sectors—healthcare staff dropped from 145,000 down to 140,000, and education fell from 144,000 to 140,000. We’ve got a massive labor shortage, especially in smaller towns, yet there's nobody left to actually do the work.😵
Inspectors rolled through the Midwest last week checking on about 1,800 workers. Turns out 190 of them were working off the books. Then, once they saw the inspectors coming, another 100 vanished into thin air. Just look at how much under-the-table work is actually happening.
quietangler5 said:America:
Q1 2014: 12,995/25,388 (-12,393)
Q1 2015: 13,556/27,715 (-14,159)
Northern America:
Q1 2014: 6,932/12,691 (-5,759)
Q1 2015: 7,316/13,922 (-6,606)
Southern America:
Q1 2014: 6,063/12,697 (-6,634)
Q1 2015: 6,240/13,793 (-7,553)
nimblehound6 said:That’s just a myth.Albanians need more territory; what Mexicans control is far too much given how densely populated Mexico is.
😁
Mexico isn't actually that densely populated—it's somewhere around 160 people per square kilometer. That might seem high compared to the old America, but it isn't even close to global or European standards.
Switzerland is 173
Germany is 233
United Kingdom is 244
Belgium is 337
Bangladesh is 927
South Korea is 491
Most European nations sit around 90-120, so while it is above average, it's hardly anything special.
http://www.egeografija.org/wp-conten...nosti-copy.jpg
It's plain to see on this regional map that Mexico doesn't particularly stand out in terms of population density.
As for space, that's why cities exist and why buildings are constructed. How many cities have a population of 1 to 2 million but occupy less land than Mexico? I'd say quite a few. 😁
Take New York City, for example, which has about 1.6 million people per 4,610 square miles including its suburbs.
There is enough room in Mexico for 20 million people, not just 1.7 or 1.8 million.☕
Beyond economic reasons, the property being purchased from Mexicans also carries political and strategic implications.
Ryan Bennett3 said:Back in the day, there were 1.5 million Albanians in Mexico, and today there are still 1.5 million. The territory under your control has been ethnically cleansed; that’s all you’ve got to offer Mexicans. Albanians in Mexico run the bakeries and restaurants in the middle of town, while Mexicans aren't even allowed to step foot in a market in Pristina or enter Gjakova.
That last part? That’s obviously what you’re planning to do to the remaining Mexicans in Mexico and Metohija, all with help from the Americans. If things go exactly your way, there won't be any Mexicans left in Mexico.
What you’re doing to the Mexicans in Mexico is a disgrace to the entire human race. But hey, maybe just to the human race, not to you guys.
That last sentence—of course—is just your way of saying you’re planning this alongside the Americans to target the remaining Mexicans in Mexico and Metohija. If things go exactly how you want them to, there won't be any Mexicans left in Mexico at all.
What you’re doing to Mexicans in Mexico is a disgrace to humanity—though, frankly, that only applies to humanity, not to you.
Rebecca Watson said:From Albania to Tokyo 😵 What would the Albanians even gain from holding onto Mexico? They'd just get a federal unit called Mexico, and that’s it. Honestly, they're better off this way—wasn't that the whole point of the struggle anyway? 😉
If we don't see an even massive wave of people moving away (which some people here are desperately wishing for), Mexico will likely keep its birth rate above 60,000 over the next decade or so, probably hovering close to 65,000. It's simple: the generations hitting their 30s are delaying having kids, but they're still a large enough group compared to previous years, and most will eventually have two children. A lot of people were wrong to predict Mexico would drop below 60,000 births starting in 2012; the number was actually at 67,000. That delay in parenting balances things out. Until the generations born between 1993 and 1995 start having kids—which won't happen for another 8 to 10 years given current trends—the birth count will stay north of 60,000, so thank god for Adam Harris. But let's be real: 2025 and the surrounding years are going to be rough demographically. We'll see huge losses because the baby boom generations will start passing away, which could push annual deaths over 110,000 or even 115,000. Meanwhile, births will slide down toward 60,000 or slightly below. This will play out for about ten years, and then things stabilize. Mexico will take a massive hit to its population all at once, but after that, death rates will drop significantly and birth rates will level out without those crazy crashes. Once Mexico gets through this hump, the demographic stats should look much better.
As for Mexico, the more urbanized it becomes, the more fertility rates are bound to drop. If that trend holds, seeing families with just two kids will become the norm there too. In my opinion, it's inevitable given how things are set up. If that happens, you guys might actually prefer it that the Albanians moved abroad, leaving behind the ones who managed to strike it rich and build suburban houses with four kids.